Keeper: Yong Woo, Se Seung, Cho A, Ji Won (Dedicated participant to the one they like)
Keeper 2: Yun Ha, Cheol Hyun (To whoever they have feelings that day after the other party stop sending them message then they start to send dates of the day, but they were kinda dedicated, just lack the love they need someone to give them)
Observer: Jae Hyung and Ju Yeon (Fluctuating but still nice and kind people)
Questionable: Jung Sub - Have minor issues with Se Seung getting close with Cheol Hyun but not realising that's what he's doing with Cho A and it's okay for him but not her? Sending each other a message yet still want to know more of Cho A
While it's understandable that everyone have feelings towards their ex besides Kwang Tae and Jong Eun, but Seo Kyung and Hwi Hyun are the most unlikeable for me at this point
Dong Jin and Hye Won were kinda fine until Hwi Hyun tries to shake things up just because he suddenly realised he didn't like Hye Won to be happy with someone else? He personally said that he have more feeling towards someone else than wanting to get back to his ex then what now? Plus saying Hye Won were not attractive before and now become attractive after spending time with Dong Jin. Trying to ruin things alittle after realising that nobody else is into him? Dong Jin following Hye Won back to speak to her after realising she isn't feeling right was a 💯 move IMO. I still ship him with Hye Won, and hope Hye Won can dump the thought of Hwi Hyun soon.
Seo Kyung trying to create drama and ruin things for Ju Won. Still have feelings I understand, but no intention to get back because of the past and don't want your ex to get into someone else is a super petty and selfish move. I agree Yu Jung deserves better, but at the same time I still ship her with Ju Won here because He still texted her despite Seo Kyung instructed him not to. This was a turning point, and I give some points to him for doing that while agreeing Yu Jung's move to avoid getting in between their drama.
I believed Min Hyung didn't do anything wrong in Ep 16 this time and have been very polite to point up on things, so not too sure why it became "Scolding" to Sang Jeong just to let her know on what he didn't feel right. I believed it's due to the choice of words that they use for each other. They would like to hear nicer things to point out on each of their own mistakes they identified for each other. It will definitely be hard for them to get back since they will most likely break up again due to the same reasons, but I wish Min Hyung the best here. Trying to change and shape someone you like to fit you doesn't seem right yes, but being cool and open minded, respectful and knowing the importance of communication are traits I find in him that are Gems.
I wish Da Hye all the best to heal too. Chang Jin ain't the one here, so hopefully she get to find someone else whom can match with her and love her with all his might.
All the guys choosing what their exes want compared to the ladies whom didn't make me respect the guys more in Ep 15 & Ep 16. This is what it meant by truly loving someone. Yu Jung is the most respectable here for me - her ex and one of her bestie but she wasn't at all petty
Meh i don't feel that bad for him honestly. He brought it upon himself
This I agree. Both Kwang Tae and Seo Kyung were kinda into each other until he stopped for her and she noticed it and also stopped for him. Then all the drama mama realised nobody else for them then suddenly want to give each other a chance again. Smh
Can't wait for this on the Thursday, yet at the same time, gonna miss. Because it's what I look forward to every Thursday and I will be lost after this is done airing as I don't know what to look forward from the next Thursday onwards
Now that its towards the end, Hwi HYun , Hye won relationship seemed to start having issues and arguments, Watching…
It was his mistake when they broke up and although he explained himself but he kinda expect Hye Won to just comeback to him like that?
And when she didn't, he starts to develop feeling for someone else. And when she did wanna get back with him, he didn't reciprocate enough. Their timing were usually off, but can obviously tell who fell harder in their relationship. He didn't make the effort to find her, it was always her finding him but ended up with nothing. There was once he said she wasn't attractive at that moment. Just wow.
Inviting her to the show because he wanna get back with her? Sounds quite bullshit.
Dong Jin has a bad temper, but as a Man compared to Hwi Hyun, I am definitely rooting for DJ x HW. I hope Hwi Hyun stays single, not yet ready for a relationship.
Yu Jung is very likely not going get back with Chang Jin despite a bit of lingering feeling but Ju Won need to have a proper closure with Seo Kyung else he will keep coming back and forth between the 2 of them although his best choice is Yu Jung for obvious reason.
Dong Jin won't get back with Da Hye but he still have some emotional issues he can't get over while Hye Won has some lingering feeling with Hwi Hyun too as you can see from the times she keep getting close with Hwi Hyun.
Ep 15 so far is the best for Dong Jin x Hye Won.
Not sure about their endgame in the show but that's these 2 for now.
There's another ex couple (Sang Jeong and her ex) but they do seem to have same issues from why they broke up despite still loving each other. Hence not very sure they will ever get back together unless her ex really change
I agree with some on your points however by all means dahye is white and green by all means. Dj might not be a…
Rude moments worthy of criticize yes, but not overboard in the position we are not qualified for, such as DJ don't deserve Da Hye etc.
Da Hye is whiter and greener doesn't mean she is all white and green.
While he did confuse her because there are parts he couldn't get over her although he tried, but he made it clear to her in Ep 15 why he won't get back to her. Both of them initially didn't have anyone until Hyewon and Dong Jin gets their alone moment that starts abit of something, and Chang Jin came along
Like all the other exes, somewhere it still affect them including DJ, but just that DH can manage this better than anyone else.
She have a great personality yes, but not a perfect person because there are mistakes she made still that have affected DJ and partially made him who he is. Not a justification of him being rude, but as you can see, Da Hye did lack some responsibility at times if she ever become forgetful
She didn't promise to help make dinner, but she volunteered to do it. Dinner is made for everyone, yet if DJ didn't appear to help out, Ju Won probably will end up making dinner alone and why would he be responsible to make Dinner for everyone? It's no longer a roster to take turn to make dinner. Don't take someone else kindness for granted, and be responsible for your own words.
1. Is ot an excuse for him being rude now. He made the sacrifice, it's not on Da Hye,. He cannot get annoyed now,…
First of all, I don't recall I ever mentioned that what he did before in the relationship is the result of his attitude towards Da Hye now, just reminding people that don't just see that he is rude to Da Hye and judge him based on that, yet forgot all the good and nice things about him
We don't know what's going on actually between them in detail which made him this way, but as you know, he knew he came off ugly towards her, so he suggested the break up since he doesn't want to hurt her and knew that things no longer work for them.
Second, both of them still love each other. One wants to get back with him, the other knew he couldn't get back with her because he will still hurt her, and he has already done so in their relationship. While Da Hye invited Dong Jin to this show in wanting to get back with him, Dong Jin's intention was to let her move on. But I guess things are much more difficult when it seems to happen since he couldn't stand Da Hye being happy when she is with Chang Jin. Da Hye is the kind where she will try not to show her sadness but also try to keep blessing when it comes to someone else dating her ex. But Dong Jin is one person who probably couldn't control his emotions as well. This is what he is still lacking right now that he may need to learn to better manage his emotions. I wouldn't say being rude to Da Hye is justifiable, but I understood why he reacted that way, if you get what I mean? As much as it was alittle uncomfortable for both exes to see themselves being happy with another person, there is no right or wrong towards their reactions because not everyone can remain as calm as Da Hye so that she won't make anyone uncomfortable.
Third, like I mentioned that Dong Jin has overly reacted in terms of Da Hye during that dinner incident. But can you imagine he was the first person who saw Ju Won doing dinner by himself as he tried to offer his help? Yes, Da Hye being the one who was asked to help out didnt turn up did affect him somehow, but Da Hye went nonchalant turning up for Dinner and forgetting about her responsibility to cook as well even as an audience make me feel it ain't right. Furthermore she volunteered to help out but she didn't fulfill. This is trivial, but trying to point out that Da Hye ain't all the angel thing that most people were kinda pointing out that she is.
Lastly, you got my point. Da Hye ain't an angel but not as worse as Dong Jin behaviour yes, but others saying Da Hye deserve better or Dong Jin don't deserve Da Hye is an over statement which we are not qualified to judge. I don't see why we have the right to say this. Dong Jin did so much for Da Hye and people now are commenting Da Hye deserve better or Dong Jin don't deserve Da Hye because of how he is treating Da Hye right now is making me want to side towards Dong Jin more for being judgementally bias.
As much as I like Da Hye for whom she is in terms of her personality and character but I don't feel Dong Jin deserve all this negative remarks about him as well. They both have mistakes, and are human with shortcomings, yet somehow it was made as if Da Hye is perfect angel but Dong Jin is a red flag?
I hope everyone get to see things more objectively than to be bias with one just because you are blinded by what made you feel based on who you see they are on camera
DJ/DH: Dong Jin towards Da Hye is cold and rude yes, this is his shortcoming at the moment, but kindly don't forget a few things:
1. He gave up his dream and support DH to fulfill the same dreams they share because they aren't allowed to date as idol trainees. DH manage to get a second chance but he didn't when they both left their initial agency. It was one of the regrets he have in life that he couldn't live but he don't regret doing it for the love of his life at those moment. 2. He wasn't recognised as her BF during the days where he was seemed as her Manager in her idol career. He has to be the one compromising with bigger understanding. 3. DH left him hanging (Flying kite) when they had a date but she got afraid being seen by someone else and reveal their relationship to the public so she left him by himself during the date. He understood her circumstance, but it must have felt horrible being left behind like this and it's not justifiable to say this is a valid reason to make Dong Jin be the one compromising every single time. 4. He's one that work and don't text his partner but not the same for DH whom have different needs when it comes to being a relationship
Da Hye have very decent attitude towards the way she treat people and usually a bigger person should she be able to sense what's wrong but also kindly don't forget a few things when it comes to Dong Jin:
1. Due to her career nature, whoever date her definitely will have to be the one whom compromised more. 2. Her career was priority back in those days, making her boyfriend DJ a shadow person. Not recognised officially despite in a secret relationship that kind of status 3. In avoidance for public view to not risk that her relationship got exposed, DJ and DH are not able to date like what normal couples do. Holding hands as and when with certain restrictions due to risk of exposure, etc. 4. She lacks a bit of responsibility, as she herself initiates to cook as Ju Won assistant that day and ultimately, totally forgot about it when she got engrossed with her conversation with Chang Jin. Although Ju Won called her but she didn't hear, but it's not Ju Won whom first asked her to help in cooking, she said she will be his assistant but didn't do what she said. Dong Jin was overly pissed but he wasn't totally wrong that day.
As an audience whom can see some point which the participants can't, do think about it objectively. What affects their 13 years relationship, what they could have went through in that 13 years relationship. All the sacrifices and efforts that were made can't be forgotten, and I am certain it's also partially why they couldn't maintain their relationship but still broke up twice in between and eventually a finale to their 13 years.
I don't defend Dong Jin for his attitude, but kindly don't paint him to be Grey and Red just so Da Hye is fully White and Green. She definitely isn't although I like her warm nature.
And for the lastest Episode 15, he didn't treat DH like his maid. The tone he used to her was quite usual from the way we all knew - it wasn't nice and pleasant, but he said "Please". He didn't demand her to clean up since he was drunk. Just wanted to clarify on this part as well because I know they are both nice people and can be easily misunderstood when they couldn't control their emotions
Seriously. I like Sang Jeong slot but sometimes her behaviour is too childish to understand. When he comes to…
Agree, and Generally, besides Yu Jung, Jang Eun and Da Hye, they are petty. The Men let the Girls date with the men they like but the other 3 including Sang Jeong didn't choose the ladies the Men would like the most.
Third person I would like to give a shoutout is Da Hye. This girl is a homie when it comes to making everyone at ease. Very considerate and have very good relations with the other ladies. She is able to keep her emotions in check to herself by crying at one corner where nobody sees while being there for the others if it happened similarly to them, like how Hye Won cried over Hwi Hyun etc.
She is able to make new participant(s) at ease as if they were together from the start and not make Jang Eun feel left out. She can read the room well and can think of the bigger picture in knowing how she may make people feel uncomfortable because of her relationship with her ex and tell them not to be bothered by her genuinely and politely because that's the purpose of the show. She knows the rule well and is able to play by it despite having the major urge in wanting to get back to Dong Jin but she don't force it, and she is okay with others dating him as long as they are happy, he is happy.
It was nice to finally see her glow up after Chang Jin came but sadly there won't be any spark between them. They are close like close friends but maybe not lover. She chose to text Chang Jin since because she genuinely wants to know him more and not bother Ex Dong Jin even though Chang Jin is at the stage of not able to get over his Ex more than wanting to be with somebody else
She is mature enough in wanting to have a proper conversation to have a closure although she doesn't seem to want to accept that it's a closure despite how Dong Jin gets negative and want to have that closure but she still can't get over him.
However, other than that, she is the most fine lady with respectable attitude for everyone here. One issue that I do agree on Ep 14 was how she mentioned she will be assistant to cook but didn't turn up to help until she is hungry. Saying is 1 thing, forgetting is another. But it wasn't intentional, so that's fine with me.
The second person I will want to comment on is Min Hyung (Sang Jeong's ex). I apologise if I didn't get his name right because he wasn't around for most of the episodes until later
From the interactions with Sang Jeong, I can tell that actually Min Hyung is a very mature person. Since Sang Jeong is the one who broke the relationship not because they fell out of love but because of opposing conflicts where Sang Jeong felt that she is always in the wrong due to majority POV not sided towards her and make her smaller with less self esteem etc., but somehow he's mature enough for conversations. He likes to seek closure for things and don't like when things gets hanging, and doesn't have the ego and pride that he couldn't let go of when it comes to someone he love. He begged for Sang Jeong to stay as the conversion not finished but Sang Jeong went off anyways and he still followed her to continue in a polite way possible instead of "forget it, since she don't wanna talk" mindset
It's definitely better to have some sort of proper closure for something than leaving them lingering if it's not something that needs time to cool down before having some sort of a proper talk.
He initiates and tries to make up for any possible mistakes he could have made but Sang Jeong still insist on the clothing mistake which he genuinely apologise but she still couldn't accept it. Sang Jeong has very cheerful personality outside which I admire but I still support Min Hyung as a bigger person. Yes, he grew impatient with Sang Jeong when the conversation is a vicious cycle especially when it comes to that favourite brand clothing everytime, but he kept his cool all the time by not raising his voice and using inappropriate tonality like Dong Jin to Da Hye.
This man got my respect, especially how he don't hesitate to let Sang Jeong date with Hwi Hyun while still being in love with her with the intention to get back to her in this show. He is happy when his Ex is happy somehow. This is true love. While his other interest is Seo Kyung, I would prefer he get to get back with his Ex instead since Seo Kyung is just nobody interest and don't want her ex to be happy since she currently isn't.
I will try to comment as objectively as possible after watching Episode 15
First of all, starting off with Dong Jin, most people only seem to be bothered by the negative interactions he had with Da Hye while forgetting about all the other positive traits he have as a person. Nobody is perfect, and yes, being rude to a family can put off as being a red flag to people, but who are we to judge? We don't know what they went through this 13 years that made him become ugly in some ways. But the thing is he knew. That's why he broke off with Da Hye because he knows his words are hurting her and in order to prevent that, he is managing by avoiding having conversation with Da Hye as much as he can although he is bothered with her being close to Chang Jin. It might not be the appropriate way or the best way in managing to many people, but that's what he deemed best which he can do so he can keep his cool and not be an unreasonable rude tyrant, and also for Da Hye to be able to move on since she was the one whom brought him to the show with the intention of wanting to get back with him.
One of the best thing so far that I have seen is how Dong Jin moved and changed learning from Hye Won. Seeing him being able to smile and express his feelings more. His "I" personality was very strong as he is quiet and hardly able to start or make a conversation but he was willing to make that effort. He's definitely not as much of a fun person to be around, and initially seems boring since he doesn't have much relationship experience other than 1 long one. Most of the Ladies in that house also don't have interest for him initially. But deep down, he is such a gentleman, the only man in the show to open the door for you when he is in the date with you regardless of whether he liked you as a friend or more. Being able to cook and clean up when he is not drunk, able to wake up the earliest every morning regardless of the time he slept the previous day if he had work, and able to keep up the energy without showing that he is physically tired even if he had a long day and still have a date later in the evening. Besides Da Hye, he has been very considerate for the other people.
The first time I see he smiled over a message he received from someone he genuine fell with an interest for. Not initially, but eventually since it wasn't a love at first sight for both Dong Jin and Hye Won, but being able to be better person everytime when they are together was a nice sight.
13 years of relationship ain't a short one, and Dong Jin knows himself well that he has turned into someone hurting for Da Hye. They started their relationship young and grew together as adults. Sacrifices made and things change which probably made Dong Jin grew to become someone negative and aggressive when it comes to Da Hye. We don't know fully well with what they went through this 13 years and his words when he's with her are usually rude with the tone of impatience and angst, but let's not forget how he tried to make Da Hye's career seem noble in case the others have a negative mindset about being an idol by being the considerate person he can be to make her comfortable when it comes to revealing her career while not revealing that she is his ex and he used to be an idol trainee.
I can tell that Dong Jin is a person whom likes to take things upon himself as he is not good in expressing and he tries not to give discomfort to the other person which probably exploded when it comes to Da Hye due to some sort of pressure he went through. Even the nicest person can be very scary on the other side of the spectrum. That's human, even I can't be saint and be nice all the time. If Dong Jin is a red flag, then I am a redder flag. If I am a green flag, then he's definitely greener if people like to judge this way.
All in all, I would like him to end up with Hye Won at the end of the show regardless if they last long enough for a new 13 years or not as long as they make each other a better person right now. It was a wise decision to break up with Da Hye because he has turned ugly and not a better person. Being in a new relationship usually will change someone better in one way or another. He doesn't have much relationship experience and even if Hye Won is part of this experience and not a real life end game with marriage in mind etc., I think that's fine too. They can grow and learn in the relationship as they all deserve to love and be loved. I am not supportive of Dong Jin's attitude towards Da Hye but I can understand since he don't mean it rationally
There's a reason why Da Hye still wants to get back with Dong Jin despite how he treat her on TV that we see. You really think people like other people who treat them like shit? There's something about Dong Jin not told in front of the Camera that Da Hye knew and we don't. It's personal and this is a show. What went strong between them don't have to be told to the public, and the relationship is between them that they don't have to be accountable to us.
It's not being blinded by love as they both still care about each other despite expressed in different way that came off way negative for Dong Jin's side partially because he would prefer not to talk things out since he is aware of his emotions. 13 years is no joke but it doesn't mean they should continue to blindly stick together just because they have went a very long term. They broke off 3 times in between and the 3rd time is the final. And not to forget, when Dong Jin work, he don't text his partner all the time, which Da Hye do, and is definitely part of the reason why they don't fit each other and broke off. Let Dong Jin moved on to another relationship to grow and learn from his falling traits, while Da Hye moved on after this show even if Chang Jin ain't the one somehow.
Ep 3 ended perfectly except Ju Yeon didn't reciprocate her message to her sender as a receiver.
That would make it 4 perfect ships. I like that the 3 Men send the messages to the respective same ladies from "last night" while the 3 Ladies send to the ones they had a date with despite after knowing their respective occupations
My number 1 ship is Yong Woo x Cho A followed by Se Seung x Jung Sub
Not gonna say much about storyline and concept wise, but out of the 4 BL series though I enjoyed You Are Mine, Anti Series both leads have best chemistry and hot scenes (i.e. Kisses etc.) They really look like they are in love and are together for real though it's just acting
Keeper 2: Yun Ha, Cheol Hyun (To whoever they have feelings that day after the other party stop sending them message then they start to send dates of the day, but they were kinda dedicated, just lack the love they need someone to give them)
Observer: Jae Hyung and Ju Yeon (Fluctuating but still nice and kind people)
Questionable: Jung Sub - Have minor issues with Se Seung getting close with Cheol Hyun but not realising that's what he's doing with Cho A and it's okay for him but not her? Sending each other a message yet still want to know more of Cho A
Dong Jin and Hye Won were kinda fine until Hwi Hyun tries to shake things up just because he suddenly realised he didn't like Hye Won to be happy with someone else? He personally said that he have more feeling towards someone else than wanting to get back to his ex then what now? Plus saying Hye Won were not attractive before and now become attractive after spending time with Dong Jin. Trying to ruin things alittle after realising that nobody else is into him? Dong Jin following Hye Won back to speak to her after realising she isn't feeling right was a 💯 move IMO. I still ship him with Hye Won, and hope Hye Won can dump the thought of Hwi Hyun soon.
Seo Kyung trying to create drama and ruin things for Ju Won. Still have feelings I understand, but no intention to get back because of the past and don't want your ex to get into someone else is a super petty and selfish move. I agree Yu Jung deserves better, but at the same time I still ship her with Ju Won here because He still texted her despite Seo Kyung instructed him not to. This was a turning point, and I give some points to him for doing that while agreeing Yu Jung's move to avoid getting in between their drama.
I believed Min Hyung didn't do anything wrong in Ep 16 this time and have been very polite to point up on things, so not too sure why it became "Scolding" to Sang Jeong just to let her know on what he didn't feel right. I believed it's due to the choice of words that they use for each other. They would like to hear nicer things to point out on each of their own mistakes they identified for each other. It will definitely be hard for them to get back since they will most likely break up again due to the same reasons, but I wish Min Hyung the best here. Trying to change and shape someone you like to fit you doesn't seem right yes, but being cool and open minded, respectful and knowing the importance of communication are traits I find in him that are Gems.
I wish Da Hye all the best to heal too. Chang Jin ain't the one here, so hopefully she get to find someone else whom can match with her and love her with all his might.
All the guys choosing what their exes want compared to the ladies whom didn't make me respect the guys more in Ep 15 & Ep 16. This is what it meant by truly loving someone. Yu Jung is the most respectable here for me - her ex and one of her bestie but she wasn't at all petty
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And when she didn't, he starts to develop feeling for someone else. And when she did wanna get back with him, he didn't reciprocate enough. Their timing were usually off, but can obviously tell who fell harder in their relationship. He didn't make the effort to find her, it was always her finding him but ended up with nothing. There was once he said she wasn't attractive at that moment. Just wow.
Inviting her to the show because he wanna get back with her? Sounds quite bullshit.
Dong Jin has a bad temper, but as a Man compared to Hwi Hyun, I am definitely rooting for DJ x HW. I hope Hwi Hyun stays single, not yet ready for a relationship.
Yu Jung x Ju Won
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Dong Jin x Hye Won
Yu Jung is very likely not going get back with Chang Jin despite a bit of lingering feeling but Ju Won need to have a proper closure with Seo Kyung else he will keep coming back and forth between the 2 of them although his best choice is Yu Jung for obvious reason.
Dong Jin won't get back with Da Hye but he still have some emotional issues he can't get over while Hye Won has some lingering feeling with Hwi Hyun too as you can see from the times she keep getting close with Hwi Hyun.
Ep 15 so far is the best for Dong Jin x Hye Won.
Not sure about their endgame in the show but that's these 2 for now.
There's another ex couple (Sang Jeong and her ex) but they do seem to have same issues from why they broke up despite still loving each other. Hence not very sure they will ever get back together unless her ex really change
Da Hye is whiter and greener doesn't mean she is all white and green.
While he did confuse her because there are parts he couldn't get over her although he tried, but he made it clear to her in Ep 15 why he won't get back to her. Both of them initially didn't have anyone until Hyewon and Dong Jin gets their alone moment that starts abit of something, and Chang Jin came along
Like all the other exes, somewhere it still affect them including DJ, but just that DH can manage this better than anyone else.
She have a great personality yes, but not a perfect person because there are mistakes she made still that have affected DJ and partially made him who he is. Not a justification of him being rude, but as you can see, Da Hye did lack some responsibility at times if she ever become forgetful
She didn't promise to help make dinner, but she volunteered to do it. Dinner is made for everyone, yet if DJ didn't appear to help out, Ju Won probably will end up making dinner alone and why would he be responsible to make Dinner for everyone? It's no longer a roster to take turn to make dinner. Don't take someone else kindness for granted, and be responsible for your own words.
We don't know what's going on actually between them in detail which made him this way, but as you know, he knew he came off ugly towards her, so he suggested the break up since he doesn't want to hurt her and knew that things no longer work for them.
Second, both of them still love each other. One wants to get back with him, the other knew he couldn't get back with her because he will still hurt her, and he has already done so in their relationship. While Da Hye invited Dong Jin to this show in wanting to get back with him, Dong Jin's intention was to let her move on. But I guess things are much more difficult when it seems to happen since he couldn't stand Da Hye being happy when she is with Chang Jin. Da Hye is the kind where she will try not to show her sadness but also try to keep blessing when it comes to someone else dating her ex. But Dong Jin is one person who probably couldn't control his emotions as well. This is what he is still lacking right now that he may need to learn to better manage his emotions. I wouldn't say being rude to Da Hye is justifiable, but I understood why he reacted that way, if you get what I mean? As much as it was alittle uncomfortable for both exes to see themselves being happy with another person, there is no right or wrong towards their reactions because not everyone can remain as calm as Da Hye so that she won't make anyone uncomfortable.
Third, like I mentioned that Dong Jin has overly reacted in terms of Da Hye during that dinner incident. But can you imagine he was the first person who saw Ju Won doing dinner by himself as he tried to offer his help? Yes, Da Hye being the one who was asked to help out didnt turn up did affect him somehow, but Da Hye went nonchalant turning up for Dinner and forgetting about her responsibility to cook as well even as an audience make me feel it ain't right. Furthermore she volunteered to help out but she didn't fulfill. This is trivial, but trying to point out that Da Hye ain't all the angel thing that most people were kinda pointing out that she is.
Lastly, you got my point. Da Hye ain't an angel but not as worse as Dong Jin behaviour yes, but others saying Da Hye deserve better or Dong Jin don't deserve Da Hye is an over statement which we are not qualified to judge. I don't see why we have the right to say this. Dong Jin did so much for Da Hye and people now are commenting Da Hye deserve better or Dong Jin don't deserve Da Hye because of how he is treating Da Hye right now is making me want to side towards Dong Jin more for being judgementally bias.
As much as I like Da Hye for whom she is in terms of her personality and character but I don't feel Dong Jin deserve all this negative remarks about him as well. They both have mistakes, and are human with shortcomings, yet somehow it was made as if Da Hye is perfect angel but Dong Jin is a red flag?
DJ/DH:
Dong Jin towards Da Hye is cold and rude yes, this is his shortcoming at the moment, but kindly don't forget a few things:
1. He gave up his dream and support DH to fulfill the same dreams they share because they aren't allowed to date as idol trainees. DH manage to get a second chance but he didn't when they both left their initial agency. It was one of the regrets he have in life that he couldn't live but he don't regret doing it for the love of his life at those moment.
2. He wasn't recognised as her BF during the days where he was seemed as her Manager in her idol career. He has to be the one compromising with bigger understanding.
3. DH left him hanging (Flying kite) when they had a date but she got afraid being seen by someone else and reveal their relationship to the public so she left him by himself during the date. He understood her circumstance, but it must have felt horrible being left behind like this and it's not justifiable to say this is a valid reason to make Dong Jin be the one compromising every single time.
4. He's one that work and don't text his partner but not the same for DH whom have different needs when it comes to being a relationship
Da Hye have very decent attitude towards the way she treat people and usually a bigger person should she be able to sense what's wrong but also kindly don't forget a few things when it comes to Dong Jin:
1. Due to her career nature, whoever date her definitely will have to be the one whom compromised more.
2. Her career was priority back in those days, making her boyfriend DJ a shadow person. Not recognised officially despite in a secret relationship that kind of status
3. In avoidance for public view to not risk that her relationship got exposed, DJ and DH are not able to date like what normal couples do. Holding hands as and when with certain restrictions due to risk of exposure, etc.
4. She lacks a bit of responsibility, as she herself initiates to cook as Ju Won assistant that day and ultimately, totally forgot about it when she got engrossed with her conversation with Chang Jin. Although Ju Won called her but she didn't hear, but it's not Ju Won whom first asked her to help in cooking, she said she will be his assistant but didn't do what she said. Dong Jin was overly pissed but he wasn't totally wrong that day.
As an audience whom can see some point which the participants can't, do think about it objectively. What affects their 13 years relationship, what they could have went through in that 13 years relationship. All the sacrifices and efforts that were made can't be forgotten, and I am certain it's also partially why they couldn't maintain their relationship but still broke up twice in between and eventually a finale to their 13 years.
I don't defend Dong Jin for his attitude, but kindly don't paint him to be Grey and Red just so Da Hye is fully White and Green. She definitely isn't although I like her warm nature.
And for the lastest Episode 15, he didn't treat DH like his maid. The tone he used to her was quite usual from the way we all knew - it wasn't nice and pleasant, but he said "Please". He didn't demand her to clean up since he was drunk. Just wanted to clarify on this part as well because I know they are both nice people and can be easily misunderstood when they couldn't control their emotions
She is able to make new participant(s) at ease as if they were together from the start and not make Jang Eun feel left out. She can read the room well and can think of the bigger picture in knowing how she may make people feel uncomfortable because of her relationship with her ex and tell them not to be bothered by her genuinely and politely because that's the purpose of the show. She knows the rule well and is able to play by it despite having the major urge in wanting to get back to Dong Jin but she don't force it, and she is okay with others dating him as long as they are happy, he is happy.
It was nice to finally see her glow up after Chang Jin came but sadly there won't be any spark between them. They are close like close friends but maybe not lover. She chose to text Chang Jin since because she genuinely wants to know him more and not bother Ex Dong Jin even though Chang Jin is at the stage of not able to get over his Ex more than wanting to be with somebody else
She is mature enough in wanting to have a proper conversation to have a closure although she doesn't seem to want to accept that it's a closure despite how Dong Jin gets negative and want to have that closure but she still can't get over him.
However, other than that, she is the most fine lady with respectable attitude for everyone here. One issue that I do agree on Ep 14 was how she mentioned she will be assistant to cook but didn't turn up to help until she is hungry. Saying is 1 thing, forgetting is another. But it wasn't intentional, so that's fine with me.
From the interactions with Sang Jeong, I can tell that actually Min Hyung is a very mature person. Since Sang Jeong is the one who broke the relationship not because they fell out of love but because of opposing conflicts where Sang Jeong felt that she is always in the wrong due to majority POV not sided towards her and make her smaller with less self esteem etc., but somehow he's mature enough for conversations. He likes to seek closure for things and don't like when things gets hanging, and doesn't have the ego and pride that he couldn't let go of when it comes to someone he love. He begged for Sang Jeong to stay as the conversion not finished but Sang Jeong went off anyways and he still followed her to continue in a polite way possible instead of "forget it, since she don't wanna talk" mindset
It's definitely better to have some sort of proper closure for something than leaving them lingering if it's not something that needs time to cool down before having some sort of a proper talk.
He initiates and tries to make up for any possible mistakes he could have made but Sang Jeong still insist on the clothing mistake which he genuinely apologise but she still couldn't accept it. Sang Jeong has very cheerful personality outside which I admire but I still support Min Hyung as a bigger person. Yes, he grew impatient with Sang Jeong when the conversation is a vicious cycle especially when it comes to that favourite brand clothing everytime, but he kept his cool all the time by not raising his voice and using inappropriate tonality like Dong Jin to Da Hye.
This man got my respect, especially how he don't hesitate to let Sang Jeong date with Hwi Hyun while still being in love with her with the intention to get back to her in this show. He is happy when his Ex is happy somehow. This is true love. While his other interest is Seo Kyung, I would prefer he get to get back with his Ex instead since Seo Kyung is just nobody interest and don't want her ex to be happy since she currently isn't.
First of all, starting off with Dong Jin, most people only seem to be bothered by the negative interactions he had with Da Hye while forgetting about all the other positive traits he have as a person. Nobody is perfect, and yes, being rude to a family can put off as being a red flag to people, but who are we to judge? We don't know what they went through this 13 years that made him become ugly in some ways. But the thing is he knew. That's why he broke off with Da Hye because he knows his words are hurting her and in order to prevent that, he is managing by avoiding having conversation with Da Hye as much as he can although he is bothered with her being close to Chang Jin. It might not be the appropriate way or the best way in managing to many people, but that's what he deemed best which he can do so he can keep his cool and not be an unreasonable rude tyrant, and also for Da Hye to be able to move on since she was the one whom brought him to the show with the intention of wanting to get back with him.
One of the best thing so far that I have seen is how Dong Jin moved and changed learning from Hye Won. Seeing him being able to smile and express his feelings more. His "I" personality was very strong as he is quiet and hardly able to start or make a conversation but he was willing to make that effort. He's definitely not as much of a fun person to be around, and initially seems boring since he doesn't have much relationship experience other than 1 long one. Most of the Ladies in that house also don't have interest for him initially. But deep down, he is such a gentleman, the only man in the show to open the door for you when he is in the date with you regardless of whether he liked you as a friend or more. Being able to cook and clean up when he is not drunk, able to wake up the earliest every morning regardless of the time he slept the previous day if he had work, and able to keep up the energy without showing that he is physically tired even if he had a long day and still have a date later in the evening. Besides Da Hye, he has been very considerate for the other people.
The first time I see he smiled over a message he received from someone he genuine fell with an interest for. Not initially, but eventually since it wasn't a love at first sight for both Dong Jin and Hye Won, but being able to be better person everytime when they are together was a nice sight.
13 years of relationship ain't a short one, and Dong Jin knows himself well that he has turned into someone hurting for Da Hye. They started their relationship young and grew together as adults. Sacrifices made and things change which probably made Dong Jin grew to become someone negative and aggressive when it comes to Da Hye. We don't know fully well with what they went through this 13 years and his words when he's with her are usually rude with the tone of impatience and angst, but let's not forget how he tried to make Da Hye's career seem noble in case the others have a negative mindset about being an idol by being the considerate person he can be to make her comfortable when it comes to revealing her career while not revealing that she is his ex and he used to be an idol trainee.
I can tell that Dong Jin is a person whom likes to take things upon himself as he is not good in expressing and he tries not to give discomfort to the other person which probably exploded when it comes to Da Hye due to some sort of pressure he went through. Even the nicest person can be very scary on the other side of the spectrum. That's human, even I can't be saint and be nice all the time. If Dong Jin is a red flag, then I am a redder flag. If I am a green flag, then he's definitely greener if people like to judge this way.
All in all, I would like him to end up with Hye Won at the end of the show regardless if they last long enough for a new 13 years or not as long as they make each other a better person right now. It was a wise decision to break up with Da Hye because he has turned ugly and not a better person. Being in a new relationship usually will change someone better in one way or another. He doesn't have much relationship experience and even if Hye Won is part of this experience and not a real life end game with marriage in mind etc., I think that's fine too. They can grow and learn in the relationship as they all deserve to love and be loved. I am not supportive of Dong Jin's attitude towards Da Hye but I can understand since he don't mean it rationally
There's a reason why Da Hye still wants to get back with Dong Jin despite how he treat her on TV that we see. You really think people like other people who treat them like shit? There's something about Dong Jin not told in front of the Camera that Da Hye knew and we don't. It's personal and this is a show. What went strong between them don't have to be told to the public, and the relationship is between them that they don't have to be accountable to us.
It's not being blinded by love as they both still care about each other despite expressed in different way that came off way negative for Dong Jin's side partially because he would prefer not to talk things out since he is aware of his emotions. 13 years is no joke but it doesn't mean they should continue to blindly stick together just because they have went a very long term. They broke off 3 times in between and the 3rd time is the final. And not to forget, when Dong Jin work, he don't text his partner all the time, which Da Hye do, and is definitely part of the reason why they don't fit each other and broke off. Let Dong Jin moved on to another relationship to grow and learn from his falling traits, while Da Hye moved on after this show even if Chang Jin ain't the one somehow.
That would make it 4 perfect ships. I like that the 3 Men send the messages to the respective same ladies from "last night" while the 3 Ladies send to the ones they had a date with despite after knowing their respective occupations
My number 1 ship is Yong Woo x Cho A followed by Se Seung x Jung Sub