It’s honestly frustrating how much hate Minkyung is getting because when you really look at it, most of it has…
I don't know where people see this or make this assumption. Maybe some international fans whom don't really know or haven't watch the show?
I heard a rumor saying this 2 broke up just to join this show and I already find it ridiculous to spread malicious baseless rumors.
Anyways, back to Minkyung. I get that she is feeling complicated yes. But no, I don't agree it's coming from fan's expectation. It's her actions. If she wants to get back with her ex, then be clear that she is open to get back to her ex. She said she wanna find new love but went on being mad that her ex is seemingly moving on in her POV? So does she want to get back with Ex or not? She is getting mad at her Ex for a ridiculous reason as of Ep 4 when he didn't do anything wrong. He was already very wary of Minkyung even when Ji Hyeon made plans to have Breakfast/Brunch with him alone. They ended up didn't and he also never initiate a second date or anything with Ji Hyeon.
The problem right now is Minkyung not able to figure out exactly what she wants. She says she wants to know new people and Yoosik is trying his best to respect her wishes and tries not to overstep any boundaries. He avoids seeing what makes him uncomfortable and He is not even stopping her from meeting anyone for her date and yet she is suddenly raging at him out of the blue???
As audience, I see that her words don't match because she expressed much more strongly that she wants new love more than getting back to her ex. And we know in order to do that, you gotta move on past your Ex relationship in order to welcome a new relationship, right?
So what is she doing (latest scene)? She just wants the taste of both side of the fruit or she finally have the intention to be open in wanting to get back with Yoo Sik? Or she is just mad because Yoo Sik stops doing what he used to do for the 1st 2 days???
At least I know Yoo Sik 100% didn't do anything wrong in his shoes. While he does show concern to other ladies, but don't forget that he also paid attention to his Ex and address to some of her needs/wants too. If Minkyung wanna get back with Yoo Sik, Yoo Sik would have tried harder. But she herself express to him in a way that she is not interested in getting back with Yoo Sik. So what should Yoo Sik be doing? Continue to try aimlessly or try to move on as well so that he can heal from the break up as well? Either way, he for sure didn't do anything that deserve to be called upon when they were washing dishes alone. Her actions was ambiguous and kinda out of place because it's for the best if both of them move on if she truly wanted to move on. But if she doesn't wanna move on, I think it's fine too? But that's not what she told her Ex, so her Ex didn't have any big actions towards her to try to woo her back. She can't place fault on him out of nowhere just because Yoo Sik kinda stop doing what he used to be doing in her POV. She is definitely being ridiculous right now and I get why some audience are bothered about this, but I don't think it's to the extend needed to actually place hate on her.
Not sure where you see international fans hating on her. At least I don't see it here in the recent comments of…
Same, I am also not here to argue. I think Yoosik ain't very good with words, so he has been doing some little things for Ex Minkyung despite knowing Ex isn't putting her eyes on him as she wants to know new people and find a new relationship seemingly.
I get that maybe she could have changed her mind and be more open to getting back with Yoosik, but girl yo, gotta be clear. She seem more like she wanna taste both sides of the fruit and when Ex side stop doing, she is bothered and get angry, but yet she ain't clear to him whether she wants or she doesn't wanna get back with him.
Playing mind games?? It's not very pleasant to do that to anyone to keep them hanging imo. Yoosik knows it's his fault that they broke up and that he has been taking things for granted in the past due to their "stable relationship" for him to be pursuing on career. But now that he seem to be able to manage his time better, his intention is to get back with her. But if she doesn't wanna, he won't force and he will also try to move on while wishing her all the best in getting to know someone of interest. I don't see anything wrong with that.
The problem now is what's her problem and what she really wants. Ambiguous and seemingly ridiculous right now at least as of Ep 4 and Ep 5 preview.
It's actually funny how koreans are rooting for min kyung for calling out yoo shik but intl fan are hating on…
Not sure where you see international fans hating on her. At least I don't see it here in the recent comments of MDL
We are just questioning her contradictory actions, not that we are hating on her. You seem like you are alittle blindly obsessed with her at least.
He didn't ignore her exactly, just that he don't know how to respond to her that make it seems like he is ignoring her. It's like a tiger mom scolding her child and the child don't dare to make a sound.
All the interactions of Yoosik with other ladies mainly are from the other ladies initiative. So you want him to reject them and say no to their date? Is that the point of this show? He is still paying attention to his ex like what he said, and I think you are blind to all the good things he have done for his ex.
His ex, Minkyung mention some minor things and he quickly ran to get them or adjust the AC. He sent message to his Ex on the 1st day and his Ex never ever send any back to him. He knows his ex want to move on with somebody new so he is trying to respect that too. He is uncomfortable seeing his ex with other men, so he tries to avoid seeing her since he is respecting her decision as well that they are likely not going to get back together
He never ask any girl date out, the girl(s) asked him. While he never rejects and seemingly tries to enjoy his date, at the end of the day he still think about his Ex. He might have send the latest message to Ji Hyeon but that's cause he know he won't get a respond from his Ex and he is trying to move on just like his ex. He mentioned that three weeks is so short, is it even possible to have feelings for someone new in this short period of time compared to someone you have already dated for a long time, something along this line and it seems like you just ignore all these details and blindly defend Minkyung for her adnormal behavior.
She said she wants to move on and know someone new, she thought about whether she would like to spend all her youth in 1 man or not and decided no, she wants to know someone new, then gets all angry with her ex for hanging out with other women like he is happy. Lol??? I think she is just jealous she is not as popular as her ex is and when she receives no text, she gets triggered. She can't stand her ex being happy with other ladies despite herself wanting to try out with other men and have that intention before the show start.
Don't get me wrong, I am in support even if they end up getting back together, but as a saying goes commonly like what some residents mentioned that they should/would support each other as ex-es finding new love. That's what Minkyung isn't doing. She wants to find new love but at the same time she doesn't seem to want her ex to do the same???? Questionable behaviour that dont seem to match what she says or her intention to find new love
After ep 4, I still think Yoon Nyeong and Won Kyu are ex-es and Ji Yeon's ex not yet arrive.
Baek Hyun's ex is Hyeon Ji and not Ji Hyeon, and Woo Jin's ex not yet arrive.
This means that Ji Hyeon's ex also not yet arrive, so we can expect 2 more Male and 1 more Female residents.
Also, I don't like how Min Kyung has an issue with her ex hanging with other women when she wanted to move on more than to be back with him. Either way, I want to ship Yoosik and Baek Hyun LOL
Anyone know the Korean site to watch this? I watched Heart Pairing before on this but I lost the link to the site. Thank you in advance Edit: Found. Reply in Spoiler
Based on past Exchange, this kinda always happen so we can expect they are not the only 8 participants we shall see. Ji Yeon is also quite comfortable currently so it's very highly likely her Ex has not yet arrive even though she doesn't seem to express interest in getting back with Ex. But seeing your Ex with someone else will still feel something but she hasn't yet feel any sort of discomfort.
Based on 1st Impression from Ep 1: Ji Hyeon likes Yoo Sik Min Kyung likes Baek Hyun Ji Yeon likes Won Kyu Yun Nyeong likes Woo Jin They are neither each other's Ex-es
Based on message exchanging from Ep 1: Ji Hyeon send to Yoo Sik Yoo Sik send to his Ex His Ex send to Woo Jin (I'm not sure why) Woo Jin and Yun Nyeong send to each other Ji Yeon send to Won Kyu Won Kyu send to his Ex Baek Hyun should be sending it to Min Kyung, considering Ji Yeon and Ji Hyeon receive no message from interest or Ex.
Hence, Yoo Sik's Ex is either Min Kyung/Yun Nyeong Won Kyu's Ex is either Min Kyung/Yun Nyeong Ji Yeon's Ex is either Woo Jin or someone else whom haven't arrived Ji Hyeon's Ex is either Baek Hyun or someone else whom haven't arrived.
Based on 1 confirmation in Ep 2, Yoo Sik's Ex is Min Kyung, therefore Won Kyu's Ex should be Yun Nyeong Woo Jin and Ji Yeon's Ex-es doesn't seem to have arrived yet, therefore Baek Hyun's Ex should be Ji Hyeon
All episodes of the different type of cases and situations are truly "Beyond the Bar." Most comments here I see are watching for Romance but I am here more towards watching for the point of this drama.
Ep 11 was great because of the lovely pets and it was hard to watch too because of the fking Psycho.
We need a new law to torture such person to death just like how they think it is okay to torture the animals or people to their death. No lifetime imprisonment or straight death sentence for this type of person because they don't deserve a second chance and they need to feel how the victims have felt. They deserve an eye for an eye, and ML as a lawyer is not lawful to approach violence towards anyone but even the Police are turning a blind eye to this action because they can understand the "justice" Beyond the Bar!!!
I actually like the variety of cases testing the line in between the law and morals, truly "Beyond The Bar"
The latest case the client did wrong as she indeed kind of attempted murder, but the fact is that bully didn't die on the spot but she died after she got hit by accident due to jaywalking when the client wasn't paying attention to the road due to the cigarette on the carpet of the vehicle. The client didn't hit and run else I believed the sentence eventually wouldn't have been that gracious.
That said, karma is on their way? What the bully did made the client become this way. In some way, it's the justice of the client and the karma of the bully. Thanks to this bully, the client kinda made her choice to be imprisoned at least, but for the sentencing wise, the lawyers (the leads) are doing their best to help her sentencing get reduced. She isn't protected by the law for what she did, however, as humans whom can sympathize with her since the person whom died ain't some angel anyways, I believed the lawyers did great for the sake of this client.
It's somewhat very Grey that I feel it's hard to explain but I can totally understand what is portrayed in this drama. There's a saying that says something like rules are rigid, people are flexible or rules are dead, people are living. In the eyes of the law in consideration of the accused living, I feel that the judgment shown in this drama are still reasonable. Even real life murderers have the right to have their attorney where their attorney will also do their best to help these murderers get lighter sentence if they can. However, the difference is that these murderers generally are murderers in their blood, and in reality speaking, I won't feel for these murderers.
However, there was a case where 2 brothers kill their own parents because of their abuse and they did it to protect themselves and have since been sentenced life imprisonment. Alot of people actually wanna petition for them to be released because they feel they aren't that wrong in a way based on their circumstances. It's not like they are murderers going berserk to kill others, they only did it to their parents to stop their abuse. In the eyes of absolute law if we are only looking at the fact that these brothers killed their parents, then being acquitted murder can be either death sentence or life imprisonment. But if Beyond the Bar existed for them, they could have been free by now.
Again, I am not saying this out of some encouragement or anything, but based on each individual circumstances where nobody seem to be able to help them get out of the mess or trauma they experienced, I can understand their actions. They need to pay a price for breaking the law, however, isn't it possible to reduce their sentence considering their circumstances as well, as people who are living? Ngl, the people whom died kinda deserve it because they brought out the devil of the people they harmed. The aftermath is these people also need to pay a price for killing regardless of what reasons since that's law breaking. But I feel they still deserve to have their sentence reduced because if A didn't happen or exist, then B wouldn't have happened, and I think that's what Beyond the Bar so far has been about.
I was worried about Ms Kwon falling for the trap and ended up ruining her until I saw the scene where her associates actually warn her beforehand so I believed things are still within their plan. It's why that dude had pictures deleted although I am not sure why Ms Kwon wanna meet him again. Hopefully she have something on her sleeves to ruin him instead
I heard a rumor saying this 2 broke up just to join this show and I already find it ridiculous to spread malicious baseless rumors.
Anyways, back to Minkyung. I get that she is feeling complicated yes. But no, I don't agree it's coming from fan's expectation. It's her actions. If she wants to get back with her ex, then be clear that she is open to get back to her ex. She said she wanna find new love but went on being mad that her ex is seemingly moving on in her POV? So does she want to get back with Ex or not? She is getting mad at her Ex for a ridiculous reason as of Ep 4 when he didn't do anything wrong. He was already very wary of Minkyung even when Ji Hyeon made plans to have Breakfast/Brunch with him alone. They ended up didn't and he also never initiate a second date or anything with Ji Hyeon.
The problem right now is Minkyung not able to figure out exactly what she wants. She says she wants to know new people and Yoosik is trying his best to respect her wishes and tries not to overstep any boundaries. He avoids seeing what makes him uncomfortable and He is not even stopping her from meeting anyone for her date and yet she is suddenly raging at him out of the blue???
As audience, I see that her words don't match because she expressed much more strongly that she wants new love more than getting back to her ex. And we know in order to do that, you gotta move on past your Ex relationship in order to welcome a new relationship, right?
So what is she doing (latest scene)? She just wants the taste of both side of the fruit or she finally have the intention to be open in wanting to get back with Yoo Sik? Or she is just mad because Yoo Sik stops doing what he used to do for the 1st 2 days???
At least I know Yoo Sik 100% didn't do anything wrong in his shoes. While he does show concern to other ladies, but don't forget that he also paid attention to his Ex and address to some of her needs/wants too. If Minkyung wanna get back with Yoo Sik, Yoo Sik would have tried harder. But she herself express to him in a way that she is not interested in getting back with Yoo Sik. So what should Yoo Sik be doing? Continue to try aimlessly or try to move on as well so that he can heal from the break up as well? Either way, he for sure didn't do anything that deserve to be called upon when they were washing dishes alone. Her actions was ambiguous and kinda out of place because it's for the best if both of them move on if she truly wanted to move on. But if she doesn't wanna move on, I think it's fine too? But that's not what she told her Ex, so her Ex didn't have any big actions towards her to try to woo her back. She can't place fault on him out of nowhere just because Yoo Sik kinda stop doing what he used to be doing in her POV. She is definitely being ridiculous right now and I get why some audience are bothered about this, but I don't think it's to the extend needed to actually place hate on her.
I get that maybe she could have changed her mind and be more open to getting back with Yoosik, but girl yo, gotta be clear. She seem more like she wanna taste both sides of the fruit and when Ex side stop doing, she is bothered and get angry, but yet she ain't clear to him whether she wants or she doesn't wanna get back with him.
Playing mind games?? It's not very pleasant to do that to anyone to keep them hanging imo. Yoosik knows it's his fault that they broke up and that he has been taking things for granted in the past due to their "stable relationship" for him to be pursuing on career. But now that he seem to be able to manage his time better, his intention is to get back with her. But if she doesn't wanna, he won't force and he will also try to move on while wishing her all the best in getting to know someone of interest. I don't see anything wrong with that.
The problem now is what's her problem and what she really wants. Ambiguous and seemingly ridiculous right now at least as of Ep 4 and Ep 5 preview.
But I ship them two, they make a great pair although it won't come out true 🤣
We are just questioning her contradictory actions, not that we are hating on her. You seem like you are alittle blindly obsessed with her at least.
He didn't ignore her exactly, just that he don't know how to respond to her that make it seems like he is ignoring her. It's like a tiger mom scolding her child and the child don't dare to make a sound.
All the interactions of Yoosik with other ladies mainly are from the other ladies initiative. So you want him to reject them and say no to their date? Is that the point of this show? He is still paying attention to his ex like what he said, and I think you are blind to all the good things he have done for his ex.
His ex, Minkyung mention some minor things and he quickly ran to get them or adjust the AC. He sent message to his Ex on the 1st day and his Ex never ever send any back to him. He knows his ex want to move on with somebody new so he is trying to respect that too. He is uncomfortable seeing his ex with other men, so he tries to avoid seeing her since he is respecting her decision as well that they are likely not going to get back together
He never ask any girl date out, the girl(s) asked him. While he never rejects and seemingly tries to enjoy his date, at the end of the day he still think about his Ex. He might have send the latest message to Ji Hyeon but that's cause he know he won't get a respond from his Ex and he is trying to move on just like his ex. He mentioned that three weeks is so short, is it even possible to have feelings for someone new in this short period of time compared to someone you have already dated for a long time, something along this line and it seems like you just ignore all these details and blindly defend Minkyung for her adnormal behavior.
She said she wants to move on and know someone new, she thought about whether she would like to spend all her youth in 1 man or not and decided no, she wants to know someone new, then gets all angry with her ex for hanging out with other women like he is happy. Lol??? I think she is just jealous she is not as popular as her ex is and when she receives no text, she gets triggered. She can't stand her ex being happy with other ladies despite herself wanting to try out with other men and have that intention before the show start.
Don't get me wrong, I am in support even if they end up getting back together, but as a saying goes commonly like what some residents mentioned that they should/would support each other as ex-es finding new love. That's what Minkyung isn't doing. She wants to find new love but at the same time she doesn't seem to want her ex to do the same???? Questionable behaviour that dont seem to match what she says or her intention to find new love
Baek Hyun's ex is Hyeon Ji and not Ji Hyeon, and Woo Jin's ex not yet arrive.
This means that Ji Hyeon's ex also not yet arrive, so we can expect 2 more Male and 1 more Female residents.
Also, I don't like how Min Kyung has an issue with her ex hanging with other women when she wanted to move on more than to be back with him. Either way, I want to ship Yoosik and Baek Hyun LOL
Woo Jin did it in Ep 2 and in Ep 3, Yoosik and Won Kyu were also wearing like that
Episode 3 not yet out. Sometimes this site is faster than the k site I usually watch but sadly it hasn't even though I know Episode 3 has aired
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He seem like he still wanna be with her but she look like she wanna move on
They are still so young, being born in 2000
Ji Hyeon likes Yoo Sik
Min Kyung likes Baek Hyun
Ji Yeon likes Won Kyu
Yun Nyeong likes Woo Jin
They are neither each other's Ex-es
Based on message exchanging from Ep 1:
Ji Hyeon send to Yoo Sik
Yoo Sik send to his Ex
His Ex send to Woo Jin (I'm not sure why)
Woo Jin and Yun Nyeong send to each other
Ji Yeon send to Won Kyu
Won Kyu send to his Ex
Baek Hyun should be sending it to Min Kyung, considering Ji Yeon and Ji Hyeon receive no message from interest or Ex.
Hence,
Yoo Sik's Ex is either Min Kyung/Yun Nyeong
Won Kyu's Ex is either Min Kyung/Yun Nyeong
Ji Yeon's Ex is either Woo Jin or someone else whom haven't arrived
Ji Hyeon's Ex is either Baek Hyun or someone else whom haven't arrived.
Based on 1 confirmation in Ep 2,
Yoo Sik's Ex is Min Kyung, therefore Won Kyu's Ex should be Yun Nyeong
Woo Jin and Ji Yeon's Ex-es doesn't seem to have arrived yet, therefore Baek Hyun's Ex should be Ji Hyeon
I think it's pretty fine especially the ML
Ep 11 was great because of the lovely pets and it was hard to watch too because of the fking Psycho.
We need a new law to torture such person to death just like how they think it is okay to torture the animals or people to their death. No lifetime imprisonment or straight death sentence for this type of person because they don't deserve a second chance and they need to feel how the victims have felt. They deserve an eye for an eye, and ML as a lawyer is not lawful to approach violence towards anyone but even the Police are turning a blind eye to this action because they can understand the "justice" Beyond the Bar!!!
The latest case the client did wrong as she indeed kind of attempted murder, but the fact is that bully didn't die on the spot but she died after she got hit by accident due to jaywalking when the client wasn't paying attention to the road due to the cigarette on the carpet of the vehicle. The client didn't hit and run else I believed the sentence eventually wouldn't have been that gracious.
That said, karma is on their way? What the bully did made the client become this way. In some way, it's the justice of the client and the karma of the bully. Thanks to this bully, the client kinda made her choice to be imprisoned at least, but for the sentencing wise, the lawyers (the leads) are doing their best to help her sentencing get reduced. She isn't protected by the law for what she did, however, as humans whom can sympathize with her since the person whom died ain't some angel anyways, I believed the lawyers did great for the sake of this client.
It's somewhat very Grey that I feel it's hard to explain but I can totally understand what is portrayed in this drama. There's a saying that says something like rules are rigid, people are flexible or rules are dead, people are living. In the eyes of the law in consideration of the accused living, I feel that the judgment shown in this drama are still reasonable. Even real life murderers have the right to have their attorney where their attorney will also do their best to help these murderers get lighter sentence if they can. However, the difference is that these murderers generally are murderers in their blood, and in reality speaking, I won't feel for these murderers.
However, there was a case where 2 brothers kill their own parents because of their abuse and they did it to protect themselves and have since been sentenced life imprisonment. Alot of people actually wanna petition for them to be released because they feel they aren't that wrong in a way based on their circumstances. It's not like they are murderers going berserk to kill others, they only did it to their parents to stop their abuse. In the eyes of absolute law if we are only looking at the fact that these brothers killed their parents, then being acquitted murder can be either death sentence or life imprisonment. But if Beyond the Bar existed for them, they could have been free by now.
Again, I am not saying this out of some encouragement or anything, but based on each individual circumstances where nobody seem to be able to help them get out of the mess or trauma they experienced, I can understand their actions. They need to pay a price for breaking the law, however, isn't it possible to reduce their sentence considering their circumstances as well, as people who are living? Ngl, the people whom died kinda deserve it because they brought out the devil of the people they harmed. The aftermath is these people also need to pay a price for killing regardless of what reasons since that's law breaking. But I feel they still deserve to have their sentence reduced because if A didn't happen or exist, then B wouldn't have happened, and I think that's what Beyond the Bar so far has been about.