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Don't worry, these types of comments tend to flush out those that go to spaces where they think they can try and spot women who try and have a voice of reason. They tend to show all signs of fear that women may take over the world. You will see them always jumping on any scenes where women get things done or have men dropping everything for female characters or characters that look like they're bashing the ML. 😉

No need to say no man as if every single man will think like that. Your comment is problematic, Some men may think like that. But not all. The difference with my opinion is the observation is known world-wide by those that care and can see a pattern, but it is often pushed away and buried by mainstream media and outlets because it will cause certain sections to rise up which is already seen to bash women as if they have too much power.

There is a big effort to shame those that speak up as 'woke' or generalise that women are gaining so much voice and viewpoint, those that didn't even know they had privileges before now pipe up and start shouting like it's the end of the world. And by the way, some of those are also women doing it. But they are unaware how they came to that viewpoint, and I am just saying how it came to be.

As for girl boss comment. That is a reaction to what some sections of society feel they need to do to get by in a 'man's' world. I don't subscribe to that. Women can be what they want, more masculine or feminine, that's not what I care about.

I am only here to state how large portions of women end up being over critical of women characters which ever way they're portrayed, yet seemingly stay silent when male characters have similar flaws. It's called giving it a pass.

It's called moving the goal post. But sadly what you write is the classic 'male-identified woman' who is totally unaware they are brainwashed in a male dominated world and have now adopted the male's view-point. It's not an accident. This has affected many cultures and communities around the world. I can see some MDL posters haven't woken up yet.

There's a difference between genuine dissection of characters (poor acting skills, and storylines that don't make sense for female characters) to others that end up calling them names, often negative ones. Rather than label a character annoying or irritating, more comments need to be made about scriptwriters and novelists who are the real issue, not always the performer.

Zhou Yiran finally shown in the cast. Don't know why they kept that all hush.

OK, no wonder I see so many time travel and rebirth dramas. I guess there's a lot of confusion and misunderstandings on what's so-called outright banned. Looks like it's more a headline blanket statement.

Anyway, enjoy the drama!

Thanks for the link. I know what you mean. Answers are never straight forward. It's just like when they say no rebirth dramas, or time travel, but we see loads of those. But, I suspect it's a lot more complex about what the ban actually means. I mean, I'm watching time travel theme drama at the moment and it's also in a modern day setting!

OK, I see a lot of people enjoy these dramas so the drama makers make more of it. I guess it's like a costume drama soap opera. I prefer Jianghu and supernatural themes. Detective stuff from historic to modern day. Just glad there's enough dramas to cover all that.

Got it. Good job I don't like those types of dramas! It's just an excuse to have mindless tittle-tattle goings-on that go round and round in circles. Total waste of drama time. But I guess there is a market for this type of drama that usually pit women against women.

It's complicated. Going with the main story, FL loves ML first but he has his eye on another person at that time.

Yes, I can see they're not banned, just more scrutinised if it follows some real life historical events. But I don't understand the harem drama ban. Do you know why they would be banned? I don't get it. I have seen comments like that but no one ever says why.

Yes, I knew it was not banned as I saw a few dramas myself recently, but now I know it's because the era is more better recorded so how it's portrayed may be scrutinised more, especially if the drama is more or less using real historical figures or parts where history have been documented more officially.

I did watch A Love Never Lost and I am glad I did. I knew it would be difficult to watch and it was, but sometimes, dramas like this should be made, but with careful consideration and consultation with historians from all angles/backgrounds. I don't know how much was edited or cut but it was a very memorable drama and it's still one that lingers on for me.

Interesting, I didn't know they were like gangs. That may make sense if it glorifies or glamourise them. Maybe they may modify it a bit otherwise all that work seems like a waste. I think the opium trade was part of the drama. Looking at the synopsis for this drama again, and as others have pointed out to me, it's a completely different set up.

As for the way Qing dynasty dramas are scrutinised, that's news to me. I saw someone write that further down in the comments here and wondered whether that was the reason The Thirteen Hongs of Canton has not come out.

I didn't know it's vertical. I was searching on my laptop. That's probably why I can't find it. I don't like dramas like that. I guess this is going to be a miss. Thanks for letting me know.

How comes I can't find this on Iqiyi even with that name?

Thanks for the link. I have since found out they had split season 4 so this all makes sense.

I didn't know all the background of Thirteen Hongs of Canton, but feel a little sad if what you wrote is true. Nevermind, let's hope it will be released soon. Anyway, hope you enjoy this drama!

One of the most popular dramas this year was This Thriving Land. This drama was mainly aimed for the domestic market and ironically if more promotion was put on it to international audiences, I believe a lot of people will really like its depiction, especially showing China's past and reforms, old traditions of farming villages and most importantly how balanced it was in depicting internal war between KMT and the communists.

In fact, one of the characters dropped everything for the communists and cause so much strive and pain that left a big negative print in the family. I would say, more dramas like this needs to be shown, and maybe after the success, the public yearn for more normal life with less politics from 1900 to 1980s. I understand that there were big political changes at that time, but it's better they can sometime be very small side plots. That may make these dramas appeal more.

OK, thanks for taking the time to compare the themes on both dramas. I do hope one day that drama makes it out.

One of my top dramas although a very hard watch was the recently controversially held back A Love Never Lost. I would say, it more or less covered history with real names on certain characters. Many of the actors had huge lines in Japanese language and 1/4 of drama was set in Japan.

The updated version (after being stopped for about a year or so) did give a romantic view of Japan and those that resided in China at the time. The forefathers for future Communist party characters were painted as chauvinistic, narcistic, womanizing and had no respect for females at the time.

I would say, I was not expecting to see that portrayal, but I am glad they did and it made the drama ever more realistic without any kind of heavy handed slant to paint the early pioneers of the communists as saints. In fact, they were shown as terrorists and hypocritical when it came to money.

OK, thanks for clearing that up. I will just take it that getting a drama through for the Qing Dynasty era, it's sensitive and how the story is portrayed needs careful consideration in regards to lifestyle and how royalty are portrayed.

As for the link, we will just have to ironically say, some may take that as a pinch of salt considering where it was published 😉.

In regards to the two endings, it is up to you how you interpret it, but the first ending was probably the real ending. But that kind of ending would have been a downer as she'd probably get life imprisonment for this type of crime. The alternate ending means he gets his justice and she gets justice without harming her own life.

The sentencing part is always going to be there to pass censorship because this drama is set in modern day time and deals with crimes that needs to end with sentencing. But it offers an in depth look at difficult subjects such as what constitutes as self defence, manipulation and possible abuse of the system.

I agree that some parts of the sentencing have may have gone a bit over-board but rumour mongering is currently a big issue in China and they are going through many changes to ensure those online act responsibly and defamation particularly of stars or public figures have seen some high profile examples where some charges have been actioned.