Sumrae

Oh I was far too young to have a baby, and I was 21 at the time. I'll never advocate that I was ready to make that decision, but I did it and in relation to this case I did it with someone who is only 2 years older than me. There was no power imbalance in our relationship, we never worked in the same field...we were just young and dumb raising a kid. Someone over 10 years older than a 19 year old, successful in the same career, making much more money, and vastly different stages in there life there is a power imbalance, and frankly it's just weird considering he did also know her as a minor. It's like my daughters current tutor who's about 7 years older than her turning up in a couple of years wanting to date her...I'm sorry but no lol.

The reason that I personally do not think you shouldn't just stick to what can actually be demonstrated through the law is for one there are a lot of laws in these instances that are bent and jumped over by powerful men....Donald Trump is my president unfortunately and proves just that lol. And two statistical analysis of power imbalanced relationships and under reporting of abuse signifies that he very well could have still abused and groomed her even if they could not prove it. The only time I think that this could ever be a healthy relationship that could work is if the younger partner is in their late 20s to early 30s when they have better brain development, potentially making the same amount or even more money, and more experience in life, and have a better grasp at what they are doing...ironically the same age as Kim Soo Hyun. He knew exactly what he was doing. I am not guaranteeing abuse, but yes I am highly suspicious of it even outside of what has been proven by the law because of these things.

My feelings about him are and always were 110% about what could have happened. I won't deny that at all. Women fight an uphill battle against men every single day and the statistics are always stacked against us. Our guard goes up for a reason because we've seen it time and time again before, and experienced it ourselves as well. If I went on a blind date with a 30 year old and he said his ex was 19...immediately I'm out. I am well aware that 19 is an adult. I am 39 with a 17 year old child. She in no way would be remotely ready for a relationship with a 30+ year old man at 19, and if one tried it I would fight tooth and nail against that relationship because wtf does a 30 year old want with a 19 year old? Statistics often show it usually isnt well intended. Look at my age gap with my daughter, a few more years and he logically could be looked at as her father...sorry that doesn't sit well with me at all.

And these are all my problems with the legal relationship. Like I said before just because they couldn't prove anything illegal happened doesnt mean it didn't happen, and that also would always be in the back of my mind.

Agree with that sentiment it has to be done right, but if so it could be really great. I shall be sat as well.

I echo this sentiment from @samstones "if done right," this could be a hit of the year. It reminds me of books I've read form Kate Quinn, and she writes some of the best historical fiction with such interesting FL's. I'm very intrigued.

She has paid the ultimate consequence to her life choices, and her shitty family...she's dead. He, a man in a misogynistic industry, who was at the top of his game and probably will be again, who decided to date someone who was still a teenager (19 is still a teenager) while in his 30s has been given every single opportunity to get his career back just because they cannot prove he groomed and/or assaulted....which again does not mean he did not do one or both of these things. That high of an age gap in a power imbalanced situation has many statistical studies that prove this could still be the case, and why many, including myself, will never trust this guy around any young woman or girl. I do not and will never feel sorry for him. I truly hope he did not break the law. If he did I am a firm believer in Karma lol. In any of these situations he was never a baby, he was always a grown ass man. There is a reason people have a deep resounding ick for this man. I will never trust him because of the choices HE made, and I really hope this is the last we hear from him. All I can offer you is to concede, because I agree that no crime has been proven yet. I truly hope he starts dating women his own age, and stays far far out of the limelight when it comes to controversy. And this has nothing to do with him being a celebrity I would say the same thing about any person in this situation.

Just finished. It was great 10/10. What a clever ending. Special shout out to Joseph Zeng, this was one of his best performances imo. Definitely recommend, but keep an open mind and have patience while watching. You won't be disappointed.

It still comes back to she contacted him, and she felt he was someone that might help. Him being a public figure and someone who dated her that still gives him some accountability to the outcome of this case imo, because she reached out to him. And like I said just because you cannot prove he did anything legally wrong, doesn't mean he did not. I already strongly believe he did many things morally wrong considering the power dynamic and his age. He knew better. His choices leave that grey area there. So, I will not feel sorry for him especially after a very public comeback. He has had plenty of support, plenty of offers, a very public and probably will be a very successful comeback. He had all the support in the world during this controversy, SHE never had anyone and she reached out to him. He chose his career and self preservation. If he gave a response like Jim Carrey did I would feel more sympathic and more nuanced about him. I'm fully aware they were two different cases my mention of Jim Carrey was due to his response. He did not do that. I will never say that Kim Soo Hyun committed a crime but I cannot respect his choices, his response, and as a woman I will always be suspicious of his motivations in this relationship. He was a successful attractive guy, he could have chose anyone and he chose her. So, that will be where I'm at with him. I can't look at him the same with these thoughts but I'm not going to go around calling him a rapist and/or pedo...there is no proof of that. I also will never put her death solely on him, there were a lot of other factors, but I do think he bears some of the responsibility.

And to add further perspective to why I will hold firm on all of these beliefs is I have a 17 year old daughter. Proof of a crime or not if ANY of these things took place in her life I would have a highly unfavorable opinion of the 30+ year old that chose to be in her life, and would ALWAYS be suspicious of him. But I am careful of my words accusing him of any crime. I also recognize her family, that shady YouTuber, the internet backlash, and many more as major contributes in her death.

She looked like she was being held hostage in the bath scene lol 🤣. Someone a while back said that to me, "but the bath scene though," and I was like...I'm sorry I wanted to ask her if she was okay lol. Don't get me wrong I really like that actress, she was actually my main appeal to watching it, because I think she does comedy especially really well, but I discovered through watching POJ desire is just not her strong suit lol.

That's my hope that they look around and find better ones, and stick around for awhile, I mean if face cards are what they are looking for...there are plenty more where that came from too 😏 lol.

Yeah those last 15 episodes were rough. I got to the point where I was like I hope you both die, that would make this better lol 😆. And the kiss scenes is it just me or did she not seem into it AT ALL? LOL.

I agree on POJ I was surprised at how underwhelmed I actually was considering the hype lol. What I will give it credit for is they did manage to make something that had mass appeal to new fans. It brought over a lot of new people.

"sci-fi like drama adaptations of Liu Cixin's books"

Yes please. I need more of that. Three Body is one of the best sci-fi's I have ever seen on any platform. It has sent me down the rabbit hole of his books. We need more of that. I devoured the trilogy.

I mean you're not wrong I have watched too much lol. I wouldn't necessarily call Mystic Nine lighter and easier though...that drama stressed me TF out lol. Pull Strings is 100% a complete hilarious breeze, it's been a gem so far.

I've seen most of them, just started Blossoms of Power. They were all fine. None of them have blown me away. I'm still waiting for that moment. I think my favorite Cdrama so far this year is Mystic Nine, and I am really enjoying Pull Strings...those two will be in my top when the year ends for sure. They will at least stick out as memorable. Love Between Lines and The First Jasmine are probably the two that I enjoyed the most on this list.

I understand there were many people who failed her in her life, and that led to her death. The problem I personally have that just because he hasn't been proven to break any laws doesn't mean he also wasn't one of the people who failed her in her life as well. Jim Carrey handled this perfectly after his girlfriend committed suicide and when he was potentially facing a wrongful death lawsuit. He was able to deny the claims, criticize those who were extorting money, and reflect on bad decisions he made as well as saying beautiful things about her. Kim Soo Hyun seems to have forgotten that she even existed, honestly the only thing I have found that he said about her at all is repeated claims he did not date her as a minor lol. THAT is what is bothering me about his response, his agencies response, and his most ardent supporters response. It's like this girls existence didn't matter to any of them. That bothers the hell out of me, and frankly is not a good look for him.

Woah the comments blew up, not surprised. I'll push back a little here. Me saying he associated with her as a minor and then dated her is what happened. That's not a proven grooming pattern because it lacks intent, but the optics of that isn't me trying to be clever those are optics HE created with his own choices. I would say saying "They were people in the same entertainment industry who knew each other," really downplays the optics to make him look like he did absolutely nothing wrong. There is a little more to it than that lol. And this entertainment industry they knew each other in has a pretty big tent, he did not have to date someone over 10 years his junior that he knew previously. He made that choice. Even though there is no proof that he broke any laws, that doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong...those are two separate things. And one thing he did do wrong was he made really bad choices those are a big reason he has landed himself in this mess. He should have never dated her, he should have been more supportive when she was going through her own cancellation as a senior in the field at least. He was under no obligation but it's the decent thing to do. She reached out to HIM for a reason. These are all choices he made. Him taking accountability for at least those and showing humility would go a long way. We all have to remember he wasn't a kid when all of this happened he was a well established actor in his 30s. She, however, was VERY young.

Great comment though on the legality of it all. I agree with you there. I just think it's a little more grey than black and white.

It is very strange. They seem to victimize him and infantilize him in a way. Pretending like he did absolutely nothing to deserve even a side eye, and he seems to be behaving the same way with a very public comeback. I fully concede we will probably never proved anything criminal in this case, and that is probably why some of the evidence was doctored, because try as they might they lacked the smoking gun. But some awareness from his fans, and Kim Soo Hyun would go along way. Whether you can prove a crime or not, someone associating with a minor, and dating her when she was still a teenager when you were in your upper 20s and early 30s, in both instances, is a choice HE made himself, that would cause a side eye from literally anyone. Also...she is dead. I get no crime was proven, but at least have a little humility and quietly come back, at least out of respect of people who will have to eventually work with you. That's just my opinion, the public comeback like I said is mind boggling to me and that response from one of his fans is equally so. I don't get it lol.

I dont think I said my opinion one way or the other, and I'm not Korean....did you respond to the wrong user?

*I'll give an explanation. Whether he's guilty or innocent doesn't matter to my comment. It's clear the public is torn, and having such a public comeback when they are torn like this just makes the backlash worse not only to him, but literally anyone he associates with.

My honest opinion on guilt or innocence we really will never know 100% for sure since people messed with evidence, any doubt takes root quickly. If he is guilty of anything I'm a firm believer of Karma she always gets hers, and that keeps me level headed when talking about these things.

But my comment was more PR related. If that gives you a better idea of where I'm at with this.

Logically. You made a generalization. I called you out on it, and gave you 3 2026 dramas that proved you wrong, you pretended you watched all three even after saying all Cdramas are the same. You clearly haven't, you came up with a synopsis for Blossoms of Power after probably watching the trailer, didn't even get the right Mystic Nine, and said you watched all of all three when one is still airing. Logically...right. Yeah I'm done with this conversation too...this is not worth my time anymore. ✌️

Oh boy 😬 lol. The internet is going to make lists of anyone who even glances in his direction. What a cluster cluck this will be. I do not understand why they gave him such a public comeback...balloons and everything.

The Mystic Nine is from 10 years ago. Mystic Nine is from this year. And you can do a deep dive into tomb dramas...there are several.

I'm only 5 episodes in Blossoms of Power, and your synopsis is a bit off...sounds like you only watched the trailer lol. I'm assuming the leads end up together but the other guys...one wants to kill her, and one is obsessed with his dead wife's soul that is inside her body, and one is a creepy stalker. The ML was poisoned as a kid and is dying, but turns into a secret Shadow Daddy at night investigating lol. His comedic gold is pretending to be frail. The soul inside the princess is using all this to inact revenge, and wants to pick a husband that will help her get that revenge which is going to be our dying shadow daddy lol. You're giving a very narrow view of the show when 5 episodes in ALL of this has happened, and it's a 37 episode show....

Pull Strings, they do a goofy comedy costume drama a few times a year. Not that rare. What makes a little unique is they seem to be blending genres, but that is proof that they are evolving which is why I included it, my entire point.

There is also more to Cdramas than costume dramas. The Bad Kids is one of the best Psychological Thrillers I have seen across all drama platforms. Meet Yourself and When I fly towards you are two of the best modern romances I have seen in the last few years. Love Between Lines is also a great modern romance with a very independent lead, that bends genres a bit as well. Three Body is a great scifi that came out a few years ago. I am not trying to gaslight you I just very much disagree lol. I've been watching dramas for awhile, Cdramas in particular for over 20 years.

And for someone who said all Cdramas are the same you watched 3, 2026 dramas? Must be something you still like about them lol. Pull Strings is still airing fyi. And the other two just recently wrapped...you've been busy.