I agree with you 100%. A preference -- for whatever reason -- does not automatically translate into being phobic.
The point I'm trying to make -- and I guess, not succeeding -- is that people are turned on and turned off by things beyond their control. As long as someone is not expressing actual hatred toward another group of people, I believe we should avoid labels such as biphobic/homophobic.
That's still somewhat biphobia, her experience of her partner leaving her for a man has caused her to exclude…
I didn't think that Karleen -- who identifies as lesbian -- was saying that Pearl is not bi (although she questioned her at first). She did say, or at least imply, that she only wants to date other lesbians.
Of course, now Karleen seems to be changing her tune. The girl has issues. I guess we'll find out soon enough. (The series is dragging on without much changing, in my opinion.)
I agree with you 100%. A preference -- for whatever reason -- does not automatically translate into being phobic.
When did Karleen dismiss Pearl's feelings as not valid? She never told Pearl that. What she did say is that she didn't want to date straight or bi women.
Some gay and straight people are turned off even by the idea of the type of sex that doesn't attract them personally. I've known women that won't date men who have engaged in same-sex relationships, because the thought of that guy having sex with them after having had sex with other guys is simply a turnoff. And vice versa. Is it bigotry, biphobia, or is it valid? Is it not valid?
That's still somewhat biphobia, her experience of her partner leaving her for a man has caused her to exclude…
Sorry if it seems I'm stalking your posts, lol! Honestly, I think this is a subject that is really worth discussing, so I'm glad you are weighing in on it.
For the sake of argument, let's consider straight and gay people (not bi) for a moment. (I'm a gay guy, btw.) If I fall for a straight guy, and he tells me he doesn't date gay men (but still wants to be friends with me), is he excluding a whole group of people? Well... yes he is. Should he be labeled homophobic because he is not turned on by gay sex? No. Would I be hurt by it? Yes, but I would have to accept it.
Vice versa, if a woman comes on to me and I refuse, do I have a phobia against women, because I'm not wired that way? No. Would the woman be hurt by it? Yes, but she would have to accept it.
In the case of bisexuals, I sometimes get the feeling that, because they happen to be attracted to people of both sexes, there's an implication that everyone -- straight, bi and gay -- should be open to dating them.
I agree with you 100%. A preference -- for whatever reason -- does not automatically translate into being phobic.
When it comes to relationships and physical attraction, we ALL have preferences. Some refer to it as "my type."
You're either attracted to someone or you're not... that's something we can't control. And, just because you're attracted to someone physically, does not mean it's necessarily a good idea to pursue a relationship with that person, simply based on lust. We all consider certain factors, before jumping into a relationship.
Bigotry implies hate. There are enough truly hateful, bigoted people in the world -- those who wish (and seek to inflict) physical harm to those of us in the LGBTQ community -- who deserve that label.
I do agree that Karleen has strung Pearl along, and that's just a rotten thing to do. Karleen has issues. If Pearl would simply cut Karleen out of her life, she would be doing herself a favor.
There is no doubt that Ton's homophobia is internalize and it comes from the toxic masculinity his father imposses…
Agreed about the grandchildren thing. Another thing to consider is that some people, straight or gay, simply don't want to have children. I'm one of those people. No desire to have children whatsoever. I'm not all that crazy about babies and toddlers and, for that reason alone, I know I would not be a good father. It's not for everyone.
I guess some people don't like it as much as the rest of us. :(
Honestly, I don't feel that comfortable giving out my phone number (no matter how much I love Cherry Magic!). What is the purpose of that? Other sites don't require my phone number, it doesn't seem safe to me.
It's their site so I guess they can do whatever they want. Is the rating here have great impact?
I'm picky with my ratings, too. :) Out of 100 dramas I've watched through kisskh, I have only given nine ratings of 10. I also don't rate a series until it is completed. If Cherry Magic continues to be great (and I have a feeling it will), it will get a 10 from me.
I loved Pearl in Gameboys! I think we all did, but -- although I'm thrilled to finally see a real GL series -- she comes off as too wimpy and wishy-washy here (in my opinion), so much that I don't really care whether she ends up with anyone or not.
well, Teh's character is still high school. Though it is reaching adult, they are still kids. I mean just how…
Yep, different tastes. And, bear in mind... WTD is old (comparatively speaking), there wasn't a lot of competition at that time. I think that many "older" series wouldn't hold up so well these days. I gave ITSAY an 8.0, which is a pretty high rating.
Of course, now Karleen seems to be changing her tune. The girl has issues. I guess we'll find out soon enough. (The series is dragging on without much changing, in my opinion.)
Some gay and straight people are turned off even by the idea of the type of sex that doesn't attract them personally. I've known women that won't date men who have engaged in same-sex relationships, because the thought of that guy having sex with them after having had sex with other guys is simply a turnoff. And vice versa. Is it bigotry, biphobia, or is it valid? Is it not valid?
For the sake of argument, let's consider straight and gay people (not bi) for a moment. (I'm a gay guy, btw.) If I fall for a straight guy, and he tells me he doesn't date gay men (but still wants to be friends with me), is he excluding a whole group of people? Well... yes he is. Should he be labeled homophobic because he is not turned on by gay sex? No. Would I be hurt by it? Yes, but I would have to accept it.
Vice versa, if a woman comes on to me and I refuse, do I have a phobia against women, because I'm not wired that way? No. Would the woman be hurt by it? Yes, but she would have to accept it.
In the case of bisexuals, I sometimes get the feeling that, because they happen to be attracted to people of both sexes, there's an implication that everyone -- straight, bi and gay -- should be open to dating them.
But I don't believe it's that cut and dry, is it?
You're either attracted to someone or you're not... that's something we can't control. And, just because you're attracted to someone physically, does not mean it's necessarily a good idea to pursue a relationship with that person, simply based on lust. We all consider certain factors, before jumping into a relationship.
Bigotry implies hate. There are enough truly hateful, bigoted people in the world -- those who wish (and seek to inflict) physical harm to those of us in the LGBTQ community -- who deserve that label.
I do agree that Karleen has strung Pearl along, and that's just a rotten thing to do. Karleen has issues. If Pearl would simply cut Karleen out of her life, she would be doing herself a favor.
I miss the stronger, no-nonsense Pearl.