@Miss_Bunique I just wanted to add one thing. You listed 8 factors: Love, trust, compromise, loyalty, effort,…
Thanks blacksky1263. I'm hoping the writers will come up with something--like Pete drugged Korn--just so that this whole thing will make, at least, better sense. Drugs can make people do things they would not normally do... they can impair the brain so much that there is no control at the time. So, if Korn was drugged (we already know he was drunk), then I do believe that's a reason for forgiveness. (It would be a different story if Korn knowingly took drugs... and the whole thing would be even worse if Korn and Knock were already married.)
But who knows... maybe the writers will keep it just like this, where Korn was just upset and slept with Pete. It's pretty clear that Yihwa was not drugged when she slept with Art. And the whole situation with Farm/Bright/Rit is just toxic. (But I'm still really curious to find out what happens!)
I would be interested to know your opinion on this: BL series often use rape as a theme (although not in this season of TWM, so far). Did you ever see Make it Right? In the first episode of season 1, a high school boy (Fuse) gets really drunk after a fight with his girlfriend. So his friend (Tee) takes him home. Fuse flirts with Tee and asks him if he's ever slept with a guy, Tee says no, then asks Fuse if he wants to try it. Fuse says yes... they have sex. The next morning Fuse wakes up and, at first, doesn't remember. After Tee reminds him, it all comes back. (Eventually, Fuse and Tee become a happily-ever-after couple).
Most fans insist that Tee is guilty of raping Fuse, because Fuse was drunk and didn't know what he was doing. But Fuse was the one that asked and consented to Tee. So, would you say Fuse had no control over his actions, because he was drunk? Is Fuse responsible for asking for and agreeing to have sex with Tee? Did Tee rape Fuse? Or was that just consensual sex?
Thanks. These personal issues come up in BL series a lot, don't they? :)
@Miss_Bunique I just wanted to add one thing. You listed 8 factors: Love, trust, compromise, loyalty, effort,…
Hi blacksky1263. Just wondering... if it turned out that Pete actually drugged Korn (you never know, he could have put something in his drink), would you think it would be okay for Knock to forgive him? Just thinking of different scenarios. :)
Yim gets raped and they gloss over like it wasn't that big a deal? The poor boy will be traumatized for life.…
Before the rape, I liked Joe. He's sexy and I thought the way he flirted with Yim was cute. Why did they have to turn it into a rape? (Which also, weirdly enough, happened between the time they all left the parking lot and the time Runway got home... can't quite figure out that timeline.)
From what I've read, most BL directors want to only hire straight actors to play the romantic leads. To me, that seems against the LGBT community. (I'm not against straight actors playing gay roles... but I am bothered by the idea that ONLY straight actors should play gay roles... especially in a BL series.) I understand that Tar and Bright (from TWM) are gay men, so I'm glad to know that. (While I won't speculate by naming names, I would guess that there are more gay actors in these series... they're probably just not out.)
One more thing: is it common in Thailand (or other Asian countries) for gay couples to refer to themselves as "husband and wife?" Or is that just a BL thing? Because every time I hear "wife" I cringe. I swear, if my partner called me his "wife," I'd slap his face really hard lol!
I was happy to see a legitimate "out" gay character in Pete. I wish they would have done the same with Ae, but no... they had to stick with the usual BL thing of "I don't care if you're a man, I love you anyway." This sends the message to fans that the characters aren't gay (I'm basing this off of many, many comments I've read from fujoshis). It's a really bad message which I find offensive. If you're a guy and you're sexually attracted to and have sex with another guy... you ain't straight!
About tincan.....the writer didnt fail us because exactly THAT scene is from book. The director multiple times…
True, but when they found out there was no Season 2, they could have cut the TinCan breakup/Tin crying in the shower scenes and left it with the TinCan kiss. AePete have lots more drama in the book as well, but they chose to leave all of that out and show them as a cutesy couple until the last episode. TinCan still could have had a good ending.
Perth's managers are also Can's managers so I think at the moment the director still not want to work with them…
I think Liz knows more about it than I do, but apparently there were big behind-the-scenes problems between Ae's manager (who also manages Can, Kengkla and Techno -- I'm using character names here) Pete's manager, and the director. As a result, the director was very upset, does not want to work with them anymore and does not want to direct a Season 2.
I started watching this earlier in the week and am now all caught up. It's different, but I like it! P'Dream confuses me but it will probably all make sense in the end.
...it's still a complete dumpster fire. Just so... utterly tone-deaf in so many ways. It boggles my mind that…
+kittyflumpin I agree with you completely. It seems that the fans that stand by rating LBC a 10 are the ones who didn't like TinCan as a couple, so they don't really care about their ending. Still, based on the last episode, the other couples (besides AePete) and a few plot holes earlier in the season, LBC was not as well written as it could have been.
I totally see what you mean. But there's something you may not be considering...Knock loves Korn. How do we know…
I've never been all that invested in Korn and Knock as a couple, for many of the reasons you've stated. I watched Bad Romance after TWM and, for me, it was kind of... a trainwreck. (I realize it was produced before TWM, so maybe that had something to do with it.)
But I also accept that there can be a lot of personal growth when one is in his/her twenties. Maybe Knock is growing up. Of course, it's all in the interpretation.
I'll say one thing for this series: for better or worse, it's got us thinking about the subject matter.
But who knows... maybe the writers will keep it just like this, where Korn was just upset and slept with Pete. It's pretty clear that Yihwa was not drugged when she slept with Art. And the whole situation with Farm/Bright/Rit is just toxic. (But I'm still really curious to find out what happens!)
I would be interested to know your opinion on this: BL series often use rape as a theme (although not in this season of TWM, so far). Did you ever see Make it Right? In the first episode of season 1, a high school boy (Fuse) gets really drunk after a fight with his girlfriend. So his friend (Tee) takes him home. Fuse flirts with Tee and asks him if he's ever slept with a guy, Tee says no, then asks Fuse if he wants to try it. Fuse says yes... they have sex. The next morning Fuse wakes up and, at first, doesn't remember. After Tee reminds him, it all comes back. (Eventually, Fuse and Tee become a happily-ever-after couple).
Most fans insist that Tee is guilty of raping Fuse, because Fuse was drunk and didn't know what he was doing. But Fuse was the one that asked and consented to Tee. So, would you say Fuse had no control over his actions, because he was drunk? Is Fuse responsible for asking for and agreeing to have sex with Tee? Did Tee rape Fuse? Or was that just consensual sex?
Thanks. These personal issues come up in BL series a lot, don't they? :)
One more thing: is it common in Thailand (or other Asian countries) for gay couples to refer to themselves as "husband and wife?" Or is that just a BL thing? Because every time I hear "wife" I cringe. I swear, if my partner called me his "wife," I'd slap his face really hard lol!
But I also accept that there can be a lot of personal growth when one is in his/her twenties. Maybe Knock is growing up. Of course, it's all in the interpretation.
I'll say one thing for this series: for better or worse, it's got us thinking about the subject matter.