Synchonicity

I had to laugh when Boyo kept saying over and over, "He took a photo of my boobs!" I was like... "Umm... you don't have any boobs." :) (Sorry.)

To answer your question: there are exceptions but--yes--most men can "perform" when drunk. For some, it lowers their inhibitions and makes them even more aroused.

I was upset by the TinCan ending, but not because I cared about some happily ever after ending for them. For me, Tin was the most interesting character in LBC: handsome but unlikeable, homophobic, manipulative, judgmental and brooding. I thought Tin's backstory (with the brother), while heartbreaking, was the most fascinating story in LBC, made us sympathize with him and understand why he was so emotionally withdrawn.

It was odd to me that Tin would be attracted to immature Can, but, as they played cat and mouse with one another, Tin began to change (more than any character in the series). There was such a buildup, through the last episode, with Can surrendering to Tin (and possibly the longest makeout scene in the series)... and then he says "let's just be friends."

Okay, I could accept that, even if it was kind of a weird ending. But...

Then we see this extended scene with a fully clothed Tin sobbing in the shower. So what does that mean?? That Tin ended up even WORSE than he was before? Did he venture into a life of crime? Drugs? Was he suicidal? We have no idea.

That was my biggest problem with the TinCan ending. It was just bad writing. (I know things work out in the novel, or so I'm told. But we weren't reading a novel, nor should we have to. This was a series that failed in the end.)

I have a feeling the Korn cheating is going to be resolved (like maybe Pete admitting he drugged Korn), but who knows. The relationship that bothers me more is Yiwha/Cho/Art. Yiwha was not under the influence of anything when she slept with Art. She made a conscious decision to have sex with Art, and now she's admitting that she has feelings for him. I'll be disappointed if Yiwha and Cho end up together.

Well, some harm was done for sure, based on Yim's call to Runway, sobbing "help me!" I do think they make a cute couple, just sorry they had to start their relationship with a rape.

I think we all are. ;)

Thanks, Gottillc. I feel the same as you.

I think it's interesting that many MIR fans insist that Fuse was raped because, even though he asked for and agreed to have sex with Tee, he was drunk and "not in control" of his actions.

On the other hand, in this latest situation between Korn and Pete, many fans say that, even though Korn was drunk, he knew what he was doing and should never be forgiven for his mistake.

Oh right... I watched Kiss Me Again but had forgotten about them. Thanks.

Thanks for your response! If you have a chance to watch this, here is the scene in Make it Right that I mentioned (it's about 7 minutes). So, is it rape? Or consensual sex? Did Fuse know what he was doing? (Fans have been fighting over this for two years!)

https://youtu.be/-VtN1dsyVUc?t=2079

I know this is the TWMTNC forum, but I think there is a connection between what happens here and what happens with Korn and Pete.

Thanks, Pedro. (But I'm not sure who Tawan and Newiee are... which series have they been in?)

Thanks blacksky1263. I'm hoping the writers will come up with something--like Pete drugged Korn--just so that this whole thing will make, at least, better sense. Drugs can make people do things they would not normally do... they can impair the brain so much that there is no control at the time. So, if Korn was drugged (we already know he was drunk), then I do believe that's a reason for forgiveness. (It would be a different story if Korn knowingly took drugs... and the whole thing would be even worse if Korn and Knock were already married.)

But who knows... maybe the writers will keep it just like this, where Korn was just upset and slept with Pete. It's pretty clear that Yihwa was not drugged when she slept with Art. And the whole situation with Farm/Bright/Rit is just toxic. (But I'm still really curious to find out what happens!)

I would be interested to know your opinion on this: BL series often use rape as a theme (although not in this season of TWM, so far). Did you ever see Make it Right? In the first episode of season 1, a high school boy (Fuse) gets really drunk after a fight with his girlfriend. So his friend (Tee) takes him home. Fuse flirts with Tee and asks him if he's ever slept with a guy, Tee says no, then asks Fuse if he wants to try it. Fuse says yes... they have sex. The next morning Fuse wakes up and, at first, doesn't remember. After Tee reminds him, it all comes back. (Eventually, Fuse and Tee become a happily-ever-after couple).

Most fans insist that Tee is guilty of raping Fuse, because Fuse was drunk and didn't know what he was doing. But Fuse was the one that asked and consented to Tee. So, would you say Fuse had no control over his actions, because he was drunk? Is Fuse responsible for asking for and agreeing to have sex with Tee? Did Tee rape Fuse? Or was that just consensual sex?

Thanks. These personal issues come up in BL series a lot, don't they? :)

Hi blacksky1263. Just wondering... if it turned out that Pete actually drugged Korn (you never know, he could have put something in his drink), would you think it would be okay for Knock to forgive him? Just thinking of different scenarios. :)

Agreed!

Thank you for your very thoughtful post!

Before the rape, I liked Joe. He's sexy and I thought the way he flirted with Yim was cute. Why did they have to turn it into a rape? (Which also, weirdly enough, happened between the time they all left the parking lot and the time Runway got home... can't quite figure out that timeline.)

Lol!

From what I've read, most BL directors want to only hire straight actors to play the romantic leads. To me, that seems against the LGBT community. (I'm not against straight actors playing gay roles... but I am bothered by the idea that ONLY straight actors should play gay roles... especially in a BL series.) I understand that Tar and Bright (from TWM) are gay men, so I'm glad to know that. (While I won't speculate by naming names, I would guess that there are more gay actors in these series... they're probably just not out.)

One more thing: is it common in Thailand (or other Asian countries) for gay couples to refer to themselves as "husband and wife?" Or is that just a BL thing? Because every time I hear "wife" I cringe. I swear, if my partner called me his "wife," I'd slap his face really hard lol!

I was happy to see a legitimate "out" gay character in Pete. I wish they would have done the same with Ae, but no... they had to stick with the usual BL thing of "I don't care if you're a man, I love you anyway." This sends the message to fans that the characters aren't gay (I'm basing this off of many, many comments I've read from fujoshis). It's a really bad message which I find offensive. If you're a guy and you're sexually attracted to and have sex with another guy... you ain't straight!

True, but when they found out there was no Season 2, they could have cut the TinCan breakup/Tin crying in the shower scenes and left it with the TinCan kiss. AePete have lots more drama in the book as well, but they chose to leave all of that out and show them as a cutesy couple until the last episode. TinCan still could have had a good ending.

Lol you're brilliant!