Synchonicity

I thought Bad Romance was WAAAAYYY worse than this.

I missed that... where was it?

Hey @blacksky1263! Can you believe we've finally made it to the end of this crazy ride? Lol.

Just asking... do you really believe that having feelings for someone other than your partner/fiance/spouse is the same as physically having sex with another person?

To me, it's not realistic to think that, just because you are in a committed relationship with someone, that you'll never have feelings for someone else. It's human nature. But if you don't act on those feelings, I believe that shows loyalty to your partner and I don't consider it cheating.

Yiwha did go as far as kissing Art, so I agree that it was what you call "low-cheating." Even though she didn't sleep with him, she felt guilty enough about it to confess to Cho. She realized, finally, that she wasn't in love with Art. What she felt was lust, but she stopped it from going further.

After Korn slept with Pete, Knock went to Pete's house with the intention of having "revenge sex" with him. Knock went as far as kissing Pete, but then stopped it. This was after Knock told Korn he wanted to break up, but also admitted he was still in love with Korn. So, did Knock also cheat, or was he still a victim?

If I found out my partner kissed someone else, I'd be really hurt. But I'd be more devastated if they had physical sex. (As mentioned before, I've been there.)

I'm friends with a gay couple who split up over one meeting for dinner with another guy. The one who ended the relationship said that he was more upset with his partner having this "emotional" (but non-sexual) relationship, than if they had actually slept together. To him (as with Korn), sex is "just sex," but having an emotional connection with someone else is the ultimate betrayal.

Everyone has different moral standards, I guess. One thing I like about this series is that it has made us think about these situations, which can and do happen in real-life.

Thanks, @Jon Smith, great perspective.

As much as I enjoy BL series, "romanticized" rapes have already become the norm, unfortunately. LBC is a perfect example. Not only did Kla premeditate his rape of a drunk and incoherent Techno, but they leave us with Kla practically ordering Techno to "do the right thing" after "taking advantage of him" by becoming his boyfriend. Wtf?? (And I hear there's a possibility of a spin off for these two characters... sigh.)

The much loved "Addicted" BL series is all about romanticized rape (even more rough and disturbing). I could not get into that one at all. And there are more examples in other series.

If rape is to be featured, why not portray it as the traumatic (and illegal) experience it really is for the victims, and stop cheering on the perpetrators?

All I can think is that the novelists (a majority of whom are straight women) and script writers get some kind of perverted thrill from imagining this scenario. It's sick. Maybe, if enough viewers express their dissatisfaction, this trend will eventually stop.

Yes, we will all go on with our lives as usual. In the end, this is nothing more than a fictional series, but it has given us a lot to talk about!

I wanted to express some of my thoughts about the Farm Bright relationship. I agree with you and am not about to play devil's advocate. But I'll say this: in TWM, I never saw Farm as the innocent that many people saw. Farm's first encounter with Bright was in the bathroom at a gay bar, where Bright was having sex with one of his boytoys. Farm watched this and, as a result, "fell in love" with Bright (how romantic). Of course, Bright took advantage of this, but he did tell Farm at the outset that he was a player and for Farm not to expect anything more. Farm went along with this. The forced foursome on Farm was flat-out rape, no doubt. (I think the story would have been much more cohesive and powerful without it, so that's on the writers, definitely.)

Skipping to TWMTNC, Farm is now the player and Bright has stopped that behavior. I guess we're supposed to believe that Bright now loves Farm. So now their roles have flipped. Since that's the story we've been given, I can't say I have any particular sympathy for Farm: no one forces us to behave in any certain manner. Farm could have turned Bright into the police for sexual assault, or simply distanced himself from the doctor but, instead, we're lead to believe that Farm is still in love with Bright, while he uses Rit without a thought toward Rit's feelings. So, in the end, the two bad boys end up together (kudos to Rit for getting out of that mess). Pretty damn weird... I guess they put the "fun" in dysfunctional, lol! What I got from this story isn't that sexual assault is okay... more that, there really are people in the world that are THAT screwed up.

Again, not disagreeing with you, just thought I'd share some thoughts.

Okay Guide... "I have feelings for Tanai but I don't want to lose Yaimai either."

Umm... I think you've already lost her, bro.

I'm enjoying this series well enough, but I doubt I'll rewatch it. Curious to see what happens in the last episode. I like the characters, but the story is so convoluted and there are a lot of dull scenes with no action. But it's okay for a pleasant enough diversion from everyday chores.

Well everyone, we made it through to the end!

Okay, Korn and Knock live happily ever after, we already knew that last episode. Bright and Farm end up together, which is fine for me, they deserve one another. I was sorry for Rit, but he really didn't need to be a part of Farm's bullshit and it looks like he may have found another love interest, so all is well there.

What did surprise me was the YiwhaCho storyline. We all assumed that Yiwha and Art slept together... but no. Well played, writers.

Fai is going to work abroad and live the life she's been dreaming of. Scumbag Pete got what was coming to him. The fangirls were annoying but comical. Korn and Knock's dads at the end were priceless! (And no, I don't think they slept together.)

All in all, I enjoyed this series. My favorite line from the last episode:

(Cho aggressively kicks Pete in the face)
Pete (excitedly): "So, you like it rough, huh?"

LMFAO!

TeeMork may be my favorite BL couple. Let's hope they get another series (or a continuation of their first series, with better writing)!

Totally agree! I liked them in Cause You're My Boy (My Tee), but the story was such a mess it undermined their talents. This episode was pretty much perfect for me!

I'm not sure, lol! Part of me wants to watch more of these characters and their development... and another part me wonders what on the earth the writers would come up with, for another season!

I agree 100% with you. Singto/Krist have a huge following, but I often wonder if that's primarily because SOTUS was one of the first BL series to garner a lot of attention. To me, they just seem like two straight guys who have to act like they're a couple (and Krist has made it very clear that he's "not that way"). I find their romantic moments awkward and the kissing is pretty much dead fish.

Based on Our Skyy, so far: 1. TeeMork. 2. PickRome. 3. PeteKao. 4. InnSun.

Of course, we haven't seen KongpobArthit yet. I know I'm in the minority, but I've never bought into them as a couple. But maybe they will change my mind this time around.

Now that I've seen TeeMork with English subs I am officially reduced to a pile of mush. Best episode so far.

Has it been established that Korn is (now) an only child? If not, I'm not too bothered by his sister not being a part of this series, as she was before. But I totally forgot that Bright was (or used to be) Knock's brother! Yes, that's a huge omission.

I thought Bad Romance was just bad in every way (I watched it after I watched TWM). Of course, it was filmed before TWM, even though the events TWM were supposed to have happened before BR. Farm and Bright were not in BR... they were added into the story. (I guess we have to assume they were around during BR, just not shown.) For me, one of the things that made TWM so good was the Pleng character!

Still, I like this series. Besides the Korn/Knock chemistry, I find the Farm/Bright/Rit triangle strangely interesting and definitely different from other BL series. Disappointed that Cho is so readily forgiving of Yiwha, but I suppose some people are willing to do just about anything if they're in love. Looking forward to see what happens with Pete... I love a good villain!

Hey Pedro! I'm still bonkers about the TinCan ending, but that's because I felt there was no closure. It wasn't even because they didn't end up together (although the buildup of the last several episodes was that they would and then it was suddenly... over). The thing that got me the most was not the split, it was Tin's last hysterical, disturbing episode in the shower... leaving us all to wonder if he became even more screwed up than he was before, or did he turn to crime/drugs/self-harm... we have no idea.

I'm kind of curious which plotholes you've noticed in this series. I absolutely agree with you about inconsistent characters.

I guess I'm in the minority, but I love this series. People are upset by the infidelity. It doesn't really bother me as a storyline: infidelity happens in real life all the time, even among the best of relationships and couples either work through it or split up. For me, the actors here are on a far higher level than what I see in most BL series. At the very least, this series has caused people to think, discuss and share opinions... which is a good thing.

I love them too!

It takes a great person to apologize. Lisa, you are a class act. I also apologize for my part in this.

Come on, you know better than that. When you make your posts public (which you have), what you write can be read by everyone on this forum. You've given snarky, condescending responses to posters, simply because their opinion differs from yours. There's no good reason for it and you know it.