Where IS KORN-KNOCK WEDDING in the last episode? Isn’t the director promised a WEDDING from the beginning? Also…
I'm thinking they didn't include a wedding because same-sex marriage is not yet legal or recognized in Thailand. But we saw what looked like wedding pictures in the publicity photos, so I was confused, too. Maybe they wanted to end with a wedding, but the censors wouldn't allow it. I don't know, it's just a guess.
Okay, this is kind of a silly question, but does anyone know why they decided to spell the word "sky" as "skyy" in the title? Skyy is a popular brand of vodka, but I don't think they were advertising that. :)
Kongpob/Arthit with subs was even better! Question, though:
At the end, in the airport, it looked like Arthit bought a plane ticket, which I assumed meant he was going with Kongpob. But then there was this whole "do you miss me?" thing over the phones and then showed Arthit waiting for Kongpob at the airport.
So, I'm confused. Did Arthit go with Kongpob or not?
I thought Bad Romance was WAAAAYYY worse than this.
Fair enough. For me, I felt they came up with other conflicts besides cheating: the most important being the issue of the highly emotional difficulty of one's coming out to an aggressively homophobic father, with the threat of being disowned by the family. It is a huge, absolutely real concern that gay people face all the time, and the results can be devastating. That in itself is what caused such trouble between Korn and Knock, before the actual cheating. I'm glad the writers brought it to our attention.
Another conflict was sabotage in the workplace, from people (or in this case, a boss) in power. Also something that does occur in real life all the time.
As far as Yihwa's not cheating, I think the writers intentionally left us hanging until the end, I doubt it had a thing to do with hate mail from the audience. Besides, filming was over by that point anyway.
I guess we see the Farm/Rit situation differently. It seemed to me that Farm wasn't moving on with Rit at all, he only used him for revenge against Bright. Glad that Rit got away from that mess: Farm and Bright are both kind of freaky and, IMO, deserve one another.
I agree with you about Wanwan and Pete... how did they even know one another? As for Pete's motives, I think it was pretty clear that he was a power hungry, scumbag horn dog who would stop at nothing to satisfy his lustful cravings. Korn's sister was older than he was in TWM, so it's not too far fetched to think she went on to find her own career (and maybe start a family) somewhere else. Personally, I didn't miss her in this series (I found her storyline the most boring part of TWM).
Just my opinion. I liked the series. You didn't, and that's okay, I totally respect that. :)
I was hoping the writer could have Korn-Knock sit down and talk out their problems to each other after the “streamy…
Hey @blacksky1263! Can you believe we've finally made it to the end of this crazy ride? Lol.
Just asking... do you really believe that having feelings for someone other than your partner/fiance/spouse is the same as physically having sex with another person?
To me, it's not realistic to think that, just because you are in a committed relationship with someone, that you'll never have feelings for someone else. It's human nature. But if you don't act on those feelings, I believe that shows loyalty to your partner and I don't consider it cheating.
Yiwha did go as far as kissing Art, so I agree that it was what you call "low-cheating." Even though she didn't sleep with him, she felt guilty enough about it to confess to Cho. She realized, finally, that she wasn't in love with Art. What she felt was lust, but she stopped it from going further.
After Korn slept with Pete, Knock went to Pete's house with the intention of having "revenge sex" with him. Knock went as far as kissing Pete, but then stopped it. This was after Knock told Korn he wanted to break up, but also admitted he was still in love with Korn. So, did Knock also cheat, or was he still a victim?
If I found out my partner kissed someone else, I'd be really hurt. But I'd be more devastated if they had physical sex. (As mentioned before, I've been there.)
I'm friends with a gay couple who split up over one meeting for dinner with another guy. The one who ended the relationship said that he was more upset with his partner having this "emotional" (but non-sexual) relationship, than if they had actually slept together. To him (as with Korn), sex is "just sex," but having an emotional connection with someone else is the ultimate betrayal.
Everyone has different moral standards, I guess. One thing I like about this series is that it has made us think about these situations, which can and do happen in real-life.
Yes, we will all go on with our lives as usual. In the end, this is nothing more than a fictional series, but…
Thanks, @Jon Smith, great perspective.
As much as I enjoy BL series, "romanticized" rapes have already become the norm, unfortunately. LBC is a perfect example. Not only did Kla premeditate his rape of a drunk and incoherent Techno, but they leave us with Kla practically ordering Techno to "do the right thing" after "taking advantage of him" by becoming his boyfriend. Wtf?? (And I hear there's a possibility of a spin off for these two characters... sigh.)
The much loved "Addicted" BL series is all about romanticized rape (even more rough and disturbing). I could not get into that one at all. And there are more examples in other series.
If rape is to be featured, why not portray it as the traumatic (and illegal) experience it really is for the victims, and stop cheering on the perpetrators?
All I can think is that the novelists (a majority of whom are straight women) and script writers get some kind of perverted thrill from imagining this scenario. It's sick. Maybe, if enough viewers express their dissatisfaction, this trend will eventually stop.
What am I going to do with myself now that this series has end? Short answer, the same thing I did before and…
Yes, we will all go on with our lives as usual. In the end, this is nothing more than a fictional series, but it has given us a lot to talk about!
I wanted to express some of my thoughts about the Farm Bright relationship. I agree with you and am not about to play devil's advocate. But I'll say this: in TWM, I never saw Farm as the innocent that many people saw. Farm's first encounter with Bright was in the bathroom at a gay bar, where Bright was having sex with one of his boytoys. Farm watched this and, as a result, "fell in love" with Bright (how romantic). Of course, Bright took advantage of this, but he did tell Farm at the outset that he was a player and for Farm not to expect anything more. Farm went along with this. The forced foursome on Farm was flat-out rape, no doubt. (I think the story would have been much more cohesive and powerful without it, so that's on the writers, definitely.)
Skipping to TWMTNC, Farm is now the player and Bright has stopped that behavior. I guess we're supposed to believe that Bright now loves Farm. So now their roles have flipped. Since that's the story we've been given, I can't say I have any particular sympathy for Farm: no one forces us to behave in any certain manner. Farm could have turned Bright into the police for sexual assault, or simply distanced himself from the doctor but, instead, we're lead to believe that Farm is still in love with Bright, while he uses Rit without a thought toward Rit's feelings. So, in the end, the two bad boys end up together (kudos to Rit for getting out of that mess). Pretty damn weird... I guess they put the "fun" in dysfunctional, lol! What I got from this story isn't that sexual assault is okay... more that, there really are people in the world that are THAT screwed up.
Again, not disagreeing with you, just thought I'd share some thoughts.
I'm enjoying this series well enough, but I doubt I'll rewatch it. Curious to see what happens in the last episode. I like the characters, but the story is so convoluted and there are a lot of dull scenes with no action. But it's okay for a pleasant enough diversion from everyday chores.
Okay, Korn and Knock live happily ever after, we already knew that last episode. Bright and Farm end up together, which is fine for me, they deserve one another. I was sorry for Rit, but he really didn't need to be a part of Farm's bullshit and it looks like he may have found another love interest, so all is well there.
What did surprise me was the YiwhaCho storyline. We all assumed that Yiwha and Art slept together... but no. Well played, writers.
Fai is going to work abroad and live the life she's been dreaming of. Scumbag Pete got what was coming to him. The fangirls were annoying but comical. Korn and Knock's dads at the end were priceless! (And no, I don't think they slept together.)
All in all, I enjoyed this series. My favorite line from the last episode:
(Cho aggressively kicks Pete in the face) Pete (excitedly): "So, you like it rough, huh?"
At the end, in the airport, it looked like Arthit bought a plane ticket, which I assumed meant he was going with Kongpob. But then there was this whole "do you miss me?" thing over the phones and then showed Arthit waiting for Kongpob at the airport.
So, I'm confused. Did Arthit go with Kongpob or not?
Another conflict was sabotage in the workplace, from people (or in this case, a boss) in power. Also something that does occur in real life all the time.
As far as Yihwa's not cheating, I think the writers intentionally left us hanging until the end, I doubt it had a thing to do with hate mail from the audience. Besides, filming was over by that point anyway.
I guess we see the Farm/Rit situation differently. It seemed to me that Farm wasn't moving on with Rit at all, he only used him for revenge against Bright. Glad that Rit got away from that mess: Farm and Bright are both kind of freaky and, IMO, deserve one another.
I agree with you about Wanwan and Pete... how did they even know one another? As for Pete's motives, I think it was pretty clear that he was a power hungry, scumbag horn dog who would stop at nothing to satisfy his lustful cravings. Korn's sister was older than he was in TWM, so it's not too far fetched to think she went on to find her own career (and maybe start a family) somewhere else. Personally, I didn't miss her in this series (I found her storyline the most boring part of TWM).
Just my opinion. I liked the series. You didn't, and that's okay, I totally respect that. :)
Just asking... do you really believe that having feelings for someone other than your partner/fiance/spouse is the same as physically having sex with another person?
To me, it's not realistic to think that, just because you are in a committed relationship with someone, that you'll never have feelings for someone else. It's human nature. But if you don't act on those feelings, I believe that shows loyalty to your partner and I don't consider it cheating.
Yiwha did go as far as kissing Art, so I agree that it was what you call "low-cheating." Even though she didn't sleep with him, she felt guilty enough about it to confess to Cho. She realized, finally, that she wasn't in love with Art. What she felt was lust, but she stopped it from going further.
After Korn slept with Pete, Knock went to Pete's house with the intention of having "revenge sex" with him. Knock went as far as kissing Pete, but then stopped it. This was after Knock told Korn he wanted to break up, but also admitted he was still in love with Korn. So, did Knock also cheat, or was he still a victim?
If I found out my partner kissed someone else, I'd be really hurt. But I'd be more devastated if they had physical sex. (As mentioned before, I've been there.)
I'm friends with a gay couple who split up over one meeting for dinner with another guy. The one who ended the relationship said that he was more upset with his partner having this "emotional" (but non-sexual) relationship, than if they had actually slept together. To him (as with Korn), sex is "just sex," but having an emotional connection with someone else is the ultimate betrayal.
Everyone has different moral standards, I guess. One thing I like about this series is that it has made us think about these situations, which can and do happen in real-life.
As much as I enjoy BL series, "romanticized" rapes have already become the norm, unfortunately. LBC is a perfect example. Not only did Kla premeditate his rape of a drunk and incoherent Techno, but they leave us with Kla practically ordering Techno to "do the right thing" after "taking advantage of him" by becoming his boyfriend. Wtf?? (And I hear there's a possibility of a spin off for these two characters... sigh.)
The much loved "Addicted" BL series is all about romanticized rape (even more rough and disturbing). I could not get into that one at all. And there are more examples in other series.
If rape is to be featured, why not portray it as the traumatic (and illegal) experience it really is for the victims, and stop cheering on the perpetrators?
All I can think is that the novelists (a majority of whom are straight women) and script writers get some kind of perverted thrill from imagining this scenario. It's sick. Maybe, if enough viewers express their dissatisfaction, this trend will eventually stop.
I wanted to express some of my thoughts about the Farm Bright relationship. I agree with you and am not about to play devil's advocate. But I'll say this: in TWM, I never saw Farm as the innocent that many people saw. Farm's first encounter with Bright was in the bathroom at a gay bar, where Bright was having sex with one of his boytoys. Farm watched this and, as a result, "fell in love" with Bright (how romantic). Of course, Bright took advantage of this, but he did tell Farm at the outset that he was a player and for Farm not to expect anything more. Farm went along with this. The forced foursome on Farm was flat-out rape, no doubt. (I think the story would have been much more cohesive and powerful without it, so that's on the writers, definitely.)
Skipping to TWMTNC, Farm is now the player and Bright has stopped that behavior. I guess we're supposed to believe that Bright now loves Farm. So now their roles have flipped. Since that's the story we've been given, I can't say I have any particular sympathy for Farm: no one forces us to behave in any certain manner. Farm could have turned Bright into the police for sexual assault, or simply distanced himself from the doctor but, instead, we're lead to believe that Farm is still in love with Bright, while he uses Rit without a thought toward Rit's feelings. So, in the end, the two bad boys end up together (kudos to Rit for getting out of that mess). Pretty damn weird... I guess they put the "fun" in dysfunctional, lol! What I got from this story isn't that sexual assault is okay... more that, there really are people in the world that are THAT screwed up.
Again, not disagreeing with you, just thought I'd share some thoughts.
Umm... I think you've already lost her, bro.
Okay, Korn and Knock live happily ever after, we already knew that last episode. Bright and Farm end up together, which is fine for me, they deserve one another. I was sorry for Rit, but he really didn't need to be a part of Farm's bullshit and it looks like he may have found another love interest, so all is well there.
What did surprise me was the YiwhaCho storyline. We all assumed that Yiwha and Art slept together... but no. Well played, writers.
Fai is going to work abroad and live the life she's been dreaming of. Scumbag Pete got what was coming to him. The fangirls were annoying but comical. Korn and Knock's dads at the end were priceless! (And no, I don't think they slept together.)
All in all, I enjoyed this series. My favorite line from the last episode:
(Cho aggressively kicks Pete in the face)
Pete (excitedly): "So, you like it rough, huh?"
LMFAO!