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I get it too, I just like the original title much much more. lol

I should have put "straight" in quotations. I meant not willing/not able to accept his sexuality as it is. What I mentioned is just the lived experience of many (dare I say most) of us (gay guys) like the rest of most of the things in this series...except the end. I do really like, however, that De's brother was accepting and that De was open with him. I think that was a huge factor in De's own self-validation, though even if that scene may have seemed subtle.

It's not that I necessarily wanted that ending, it's just that I think it would have made for a more heavy tone. I'm perfectly content with this ending. Everyone deserves to live happily ever after.

This was an incredible masterpiece. It had the tone of early 2000s, gay, indie coming-of-age films that I absolutely loved. If I were to have a criticism, it'd be that I would have been alright with the "sad" ending of them just going their separate ways off to university. Since this series went the more 'realist' route instead of fluffy BL-fantasy, seeing the more realistic storyline of most gay men's lives in that situation which is: your straight bff may be 'gay' for *you*, but it's not gonna go anywhere because by the time he's brave enough to truly own up to it, you'll both be done with uni and far away from home. Their getting together at the end was blissfully beautiful, but with all the tragic realism throughout the series, having a 'sad' ending would have really accented the weight of all the points of fear, self-denial/acceptance, sexual confusion etc. that gay men experience all the more intensely.
I don't mean to make it seem like there's no light at the end of the tunnel for young gay men, just that it usually won't ever come from your 'straight' childhood best friend as so many of us at that age so often think.

Also, random thought: the word-for-word translation of the title of this series which is 'Translate My Love With Your Heart' fits it WAY better than 'I Told Sunset About You' on so many levels.

Me too. I was actually glad they didn't give him more screen time to grieve over not getting Ou'er cuz that would have REALLY put me through it.

I'd add that people very often reject things like foreigners or LGBTQ+ people out of ignorance, fear, disinterest, or even hatred, sure, but Ton has alluded to three of these (so far). Not understanding the habits of foreigners and rejecting them because of it isn't the exact same as sexual orientation/sexual identity, but there is a decent amount of similarities.

The whole situation is absurd because Ton is so in denial and three gay guys are consciously going along with it. I get that Chon likes Ton and doesn't want to disappoint him, but letting oneself get carted off to a massage parlor alongside two other gay guys is just as ridiculous at Ton encouraging them to do it anyway, imo. I don't know about that last part of what you wrote, though. Lhong paid people to rape Tar in TTS. This situation is quite the removal from that.

That that's even known information really warms my heart tbh.

Their accent when they speak Mandarin is the light comic relief I desperately need during all this sadness.

Every time Adachi says "Eh?" I just wanna hug him....which is a lot. <3

Is the webnovel BL?

Human sexuality is often given an oversimplified context and that shows in the way that a lot of people approach it, so even within the context of a single culture, non-queer people have a lot of contemplation to do before they arrive at the simple conclusion. "they're only different because of who they love". They shouldn't need to do that, but society sucks.

Well, not everyone who says that is. When people say they don’t understand people, they often mean that. Substitute “gay” with “foreigner” and it’s quite a common statement as well especially here in Asia and as unacceptable as it sounds, can really be taken at face value a lot of the time. I still think that Tohon’s character is an absolute tool and I don’t know why it’s come off that I’m trying to defend him, but, no.

It comes off like they're *all* douchebags here...like...not just one of them. Poor Earth.

He's very handsome! Good actor too. He kind of reminds me of Simon Gong from Advance Bravely.

I love the direction of this series. The way the give us sweetness, then dip us into sadness for just long enough for our hearts to start to break, then they pull us back into the romance. And the characters are written so well. <3 I wish the episodes were longer, but I'm still happy we at least have five more to go.

Tohon is a buffoon.
Chonlatee is cute beyond words.
Ai and Ni are hilarious. I'd probably watch anything Mike/TopTap as a cp and Mike's facial expressions kill me.
And while his character Na is set to be a cheesy douchebag, I'm SOO happy to see Neo Trai in a BL again. I thought he was so sweet as Gord in 'Cause You're My Boy/My Tee.

He only badmouths gays when they try to hit on Chon. He actually goes out of his way to say he has nothing against gays in general, just that he doesn't understand them...which is probably why Chon doesn't feel so bad about still having a crush on him. He has a strong case of fragile masculinity, but homophobia...not quite...at least not that the show has shown explicitly.

Men very often have to prove their masculinity by being able to successfully lure a woman unfortunately. I don't know how old you are, but it's a very common thing especially for young adults.

I don't know if a female being portrayed as a villain for "no reason" fits the context exactly. Ton is one of the school's hottest (straight) guys. Amp is his ex gf who isn't over him. If Amp was just another gay guy at the school who happens to have a crush on Ton and badmouths Chon all the time for being so close to Ton....would that be more acceptable? If so, why?

I feel like Tohon's character is supposed to show the buffoonery of subconsciously closeted men. Tohon is clearly gay/clearly has attraction for men. Many people see it except him. That's the comedic irony of it all.

Agreed. I still love my lovely BLs too.

Makes sense.

BL is in fact a genre to itself, not just a general name for tv/film that showcases homosexual love between men/boys. That wasn’t on the director either evidently since he went out of his way to say this is categorically not BL.

Without diving too much into semantics, though, I do see your point and agree. We could with a more less cliché Thai BLs.