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Replying to 1Maverickk Aug 10, 2024
Title The Double
How did you do it? Share deets please, last time I was so wholly consumed by a show this deeply was LYF1. I've…
I was into WuluKetao for a while, hahaha. I was not delulu about it but it was fun being part of the madness for their chemistry :D.
Replying to DefyingDestiny Aug 10, 2024
Title The Double
Yep, we noticed and so did Duke Su and Princess Wanning. I think only SYR thought otherwise.In the novel that…
I'm doing it slowly and it's really goooooood.
Replying to RydiaChan Aug 10, 2024
Title The Double Spoiler
Ok officially on the bandwagon. Amazing show top to bottom!!!! I died watching it it was so fun!!! Help! Where…
Go to dailymotion. No trojans and viruses there. Or you can look at pirate sites, if your device has good protection.
On The Double Aug 10, 2024
Title The Double
Episode 1: XFF's and SYR's song at the scene after he whacked her in the head and buried her

It is the title of The Double in Chinese: Among Inky Rain and Clouds

The song is their story, sung with male and female voices, and in the song, the woman sang of her love and being lost in an inky (SYR is a scholar) rain and clouds while the man sang of the end of things, of decay, and how it was her fate that he cut them apart.
In the ending part, he sang of his regret that he would never see her again.

The two sentences they sang together at the end of refrain 1 and refrain 2:
1) So too does hate linger
2) How fickle fate can be

These two lines signified of things to come. (1) He sang of regret remaining, NOT THINKING that hate would linger (because she didn't die) and (2) He thought the fate of his wife was how he wanted it to be (her dead) but fate was FICKLE and could change in an instant. The scene and song ended with her hand shooting out of the dirt, grasping the flute at exactly that line (how fickle fate can be).
Replying to TaliaToo Aug 9, 2024
Title The Double Spoiler
For those who just finished The Double, here are some are some quick thoughts (below in spoiler):
Here are some patterns to think about:

1) Drama started with her in red running, drama ended with her in red running.

2) She was buried in that pit and she later buried the real Jiang Li in the pit. Both she and JL were dead together in the pit as the same person (SYR thought that was her when he dug up the grave), then she was acknowledged publicly as JL and when she was with Duke Su over "her" grave/pit, she eulogized herself AND Jiang Li.

3) The piece of music she played with her ex while she was alive was the piece he played at his death. Meanwhile she and Duke Su told each other stories and Chinese opera acts instead.

4) She shot out BOTH soft scholarly hands that whacked her and buried her alive with a shovel. Her ex had promised to keep her safe and broke that promise pretty spectacularly. OTOH, when the camera did show the Duke's hands, they were calloused by swordplay and they held on to hers tightly, keeping her safe. Her future husband kept her safe over and over again throughout the drama.

5) SYR was a lowly scholar below JL status. He chose power over her and in the final acts, he was elevated that he stood above her and Duke Su at the city gate. However, Duke Su started well above in status over XXF/JL and he enjoyed (as she had accused) watching "plays" from above. As the drama continued, he "came down" to be part of her play, as seen in the Drinking Game at the black market. They became equal when he told her he would be her pawn and to let him win the game for her. Also final scene, he was also in red, returning her equal.

6) SYR threw his flute into the grave, signal his abandoning her and their dreams together. XFF had cried over it but as JL, she buried it with the real JL. She had no dreams or past she wanted to remember at that point. But then came Duke Su's fan (haha). By the latter part of the drama, XFF had impersonated his fan action (at the gambling den), had used it to tap under his chin (as he'd done to her) and he'd thrown his fan at her and she'd caught it and in that scene, put it against her mouth (I see it as a nod to the kiss because that fan of his is quite an intimate part of his persona!).

From: https://kisskh.at/discussions/di-jia-qian-jin/126863-main-couple-scenes-clever-dialogues-and-relationship-progression?pid=3077867&page=2#p3077867

And many more!
On The Double Aug 9, 2024
Title The Double
For those who just finished The Double, here are some are some quick thoughts (below in spoiler):
Replying to DefyingDestiny Aug 9, 2024
Title The Double
Fang Fei dragging Jiang Li’s name/reputation through the mud for her scheme in Ep 30-31 never sat right wih…
Can you expand a bit on what you mean?
Replying to tpatricio93 Aug 9, 2024
Title The Double
Am I the only one that noticed that in the royal banquet Princess Wan Ning debacle, Jiang Li / Xue Fang Fei /…
Yes, hence the interesting dialogue between the Duke and XFF when she backed into while running off from the drugging incident. That dialogue was intense and chocked full of innuendos.
Replying to TaliaToo Aug 9, 2024
Title The Double
What is your cure? :)
Yes, interpretation of archetypes and symbolism in dialogue and camera work are my favorites. I was just joshing you about the other discussion.😁
Replying to TaliaToo Aug 9, 2024
Title The Double
What is your cure? :)
I'm rewatching LLTG and looking for its parodying Ming Lan. Kidding, kidding.... (Actually, I'm rearranging my notes to share with @frankly, especially Episode 15)
Replying to Kokuto Aug 8, 2024
I hate to tell you this ... but I think it will be hard to ever get over XL / FFB. Those poor novel readers have…
That would be me, sob. Can you later, TJC’s portrayal broke my heart again.
Replying to Dramadoggy2021 Aug 8, 2024
Agree...the FL really wasn't a typical heroine..the whole narrative about her trying to find stability in her…
Love your analyses of the characters. Thank you.
Replying to launev Aug 8, 2024
So, I didnt watch this when it first came out - I waited until season 2 was finished and then watched it all at…
Like I always said, once WXL became XY, she lost a lot of her brain cells forever. But that long title doesn’t sound catchy. 🤣
Replying to Stephen Martin Aug 8, 2024
All these comments...I hope u folks actually don't choose characters like Xiang Liu in ur real life lol
oh, yeah, we girls don’t know how to differentiate real life versus novels and drama, unlike men whose fantasies are always about normal women. #WCReyeroll
Replying to JYJ Aug 8, 2024
Title The Double
I am here to report I am out of a drama slump. It took weeks! I still miss The Double dearly and all the fun I…
What is your cure? :)
Replying to lossswierllos Aug 8, 2024
Title The Double
I liked the story but found myself skipping a lot of scenes. I liked how stable (character-wise) FL was. I liked…
Me too but it seems the director was experimenting with “manhua” storytelling, like the comics panels.
Replying to MoonJank Aug 8, 2024
Title The Double
I saw two episodes of this and got bored. when does it get good?
If the first two got you bored, you should stop. The rest is just the same boring. How about another drama more to your liking?
Replying to frankly Aug 8, 2024
Title The Double
😩
Olivia Newton-John's "Hopelessly In Love With You." Bwahahaha
Replying to Nanoush Aug 8, 2024
Title The Double
I haven't watched LLG yet, but what's the similarities between these two Dramas?
She seems to see every drama being "parodied" here. The fact that these are common tropes (meet cute/funny servants/evil best buddy, etc) are totally ignored. Taking that logic further, then every drama she cited is a "parody" of every drama before it, ad infinitum.
Replying to DefyingDestiny Aug 8, 2024
Title The Double
I'm most looking forward to the scene when the invading army comes to their camp and she kills 3 of their top…
I'm still not a fan of Zhou Ye, so not sure about your pick. Ryan Cheng!