Heh. For your sanity stop at Episode 40 Minute 31:17
She turned because she heard the hooves. It was anticipation, perhaps? The director chose not to show a standard finale so he could bookend the “show” with a woman in red running. But the BTS clearly showed it was Duke Su/WXY on that horse. And the epilogue, 40.5 is five minutes of marriage bliss.
I agree ! I started watching because of the rating, and now I am perplexed by comparison with LLTG. In LLTG every…
Yes, you can see it in the way Shen Yu Rong moves. His steps. His slow flapping of his sleeves. The way that one Ji brother and the Princess twirled is reminiscent of Chinese Opera. The way the scenes are arranged is very staged—one example is the Princess’ balcony scenes. The Orange makeup is a lighter version of Chinese opera makeup. Even parts of Duke Su’s sword dance in the rain had elements of “tuk-tuk Chang,” as my grandma used to call it when we were playing swords and “tuk-tuk Chang” with her. 😀
I agree ! I started watching because of the rating, and now I am perplexed by comparison with LLTG. In LLTG every…
Shakespearean soliloquies is a form of breaking the fourth wall. But yes, it’s not for everybody. Like you, some find it uncomfortable. Have a good drama watching day!
Heh. For your sanity stop at Episode 40 Minute 31:17
Awww it’s a happy ending. I promise you. And there is a 40.5 showing their happy marriage life with lots of laughter. I’ve been reading your posts and just wanted to save you from a little trauma. BUT HAPPY ENDING.
Yes, it does. But with a caveat on Other Deaths. So stop at Episode 40 Minute 30:17 if you don't want Other Deaths. The timestamp I give you will give a Perfect Happily Ever After. After that, skip to 40.5 and see the Epilogue of Marriage Life.
Heh. For your sanity stop at Episode 40 Minute 31:17
I didn't. It's a Happy Ending no matter what. But I wanted to spare your sanity. I do apologize if you think I was spoiling anything. I truly didn't think I was, since it is a good ending either way.
I agree ! I started watching because of the rating, and now I am perplexed by comparison with LLTG. In LLTG every…
It is not LLTG and LLTG is not it. The Double is a unique experience, like watching Chinese opera or even a manhua.
Breaking the fourth wall is a play experience and Duke SU always suggested he/we were watching a play.
If looking at it through a manhua lens, haven’t you noticed The Double’s extreme closeups are like the comic panels of the characters’ reactions? Just like in a manhua/comic book!
I'm thinking of rewatching the beginning and the ending (not the war border war part, which I've avoided since the first viewing) for some deep dive notes/watching.
I haven't watched LLG yet, but what's the similarities between these two Dramas?
Again and lastly, you are misusing the term parody. Scream 1 and 2 are iconic spoofs of the horror genre. They aren’t parodying a specific literary work.
But it’s okay, I can see where you’re coming from and appreciate your eye for details. We are all fans of the genre.
I haven't watched LLG yet, but what's the similarities between these two Dramas?
Again, I'll have to disagree with you on your usage of "parody." It is not a parody and no director of any calibre would parody another director's work unless they are enemies.
So I cannot name you any C-Drama work I would call direct parodies.
But, if you are talking about SPOOFS, wherein you see a drama making fun of tropes and genres, ala the Western movie The Princess Bride, then I would say an excellent recent example is Joy of Life 1 and 2, which have great spoof elements, especially the novel (which I didn't finish and have only read passages. Because...LONG).
As for LLTG, I could say that in spite of its serious overtones, some of those scenes were deliberately overboard too and they could be interpreted as SPOOFING the genre, as in "Oh, gosh, the General must be in a bad mood," when LBY killed ten guys all by himself because he was mad he couldn't accompany CSS back to her home. Or the funny lines thrown out by the Emperor, "He wants to overthrow me? Oh, that's understandable. WHAT? HE INTERRUPTED ZI SHENG'S DATE? Off with his head!" Those two are prime examples of spoofing, IF one intended to look at it in that angle. And yet, I wouldn't call LLTG a parody of any movie or drama either.
What might be an interesting exercise: comparing and contrasting how BOTH these masterpieces spoofed the genres.
1) LBY's sitting there casually drinking tea while beating up the eight magistrates was such an overboard reaction of their daughters' bad behavior. It was funny because YS and the Third Prince went along with it with their casual conversation. We could say, hey, that was an excellent spoof of all those scenes of tea-drinking generals who are often shown sitting there sipping tea while there are fighting and torture going on. The later serious torture one then would be a great contrast on how that wasn't a spoof.
2) In comparison, Su Guo Gong's demeanor was sexier because his use of tea was an act, like his favorite thing--all for show. That scene was meant to be funny because he wanted to scare XFF and she surprised him with her "Nah, I was lying," and went up to him and drank his tea. Now, that* could be seen as spoofing the genre where the General With The Tea Always Wins The Fight. *maniacalchuckles Then we could contrast this lighter scene with when Duke Su was pissed and how he just went about the business of interrogation with the actress who tried to assassinate him and injured his girl instead. We could immediately sense his mood (as with Zi Sheng's pissed off mood).
But pushing both these dramas as all about spoofs really undercut their excellence and degrade both the directors' work. They were masters at bringing a point across to their audience and those scenes above were well-thought out to contrast the moods of their MLs.
The novel was written before Love Like The Galaxy.
Thank you. I am really just procrastinating here lol. Soon, I have to disappear for a while or my publisher will send out their guards to imprison me LMAO.
Breaking the fourth wall is a play experience and Duke SU always suggested he/we were watching a play.
If looking at it through a manhua lens, haven’t you noticed The Double’s extreme closeups are like the comic panels of the characters’ reactions? Just like in a manhua/comic book!
But it’s okay, I can see where you’re coming from and appreciate your eye for details. We are all fans of the genre.
So I cannot name you any C-Drama work I would call direct parodies.
But, if you are talking about SPOOFS, wherein you see a drama making fun of tropes and genres, ala the Western movie The Princess Bride, then I would say an excellent recent example is Joy of Life 1 and 2, which have great spoof elements, especially the novel (which I didn't finish and have only read passages. Because...LONG).
As for LLTG, I could say that in spite of its serious overtones, some of those scenes were deliberately overboard too and they could be interpreted as SPOOFING the genre, as in "Oh, gosh, the General must be in a bad mood," when LBY killed ten guys all by himself because he was mad he couldn't accompany CSS back to her home. Or the funny lines thrown out by the Emperor, "He wants to overthrow me? Oh, that's understandable. WHAT? HE INTERRUPTED ZI SHENG'S DATE? Off with his head!" Those two are prime examples of spoofing, IF one intended to look at it in that angle. And yet, I wouldn't call LLTG a parody of any movie or drama either.
What might be an interesting exercise: comparing and contrasting how BOTH these masterpieces spoofed the genres.
1) LBY's sitting there casually drinking tea while beating up the eight magistrates was such an overboard reaction of their daughters' bad behavior. It was funny because YS and the Third Prince went along with it with their casual conversation. We could say, hey, that was an excellent spoof of all those scenes of tea-drinking generals who are often shown sitting there sipping tea while there are fighting and torture going on. The later serious torture one then would be a great contrast on how that wasn't a spoof.
2) In comparison, Su Guo Gong's demeanor was sexier because his use of tea was an act, like his favorite thing--all for show. That scene was meant to be funny because he wanted to scare XFF and she surprised him with her "Nah, I was lying," and went up to him and drank his tea. Now, that* could be seen as spoofing the genre where the General With The Tea Always Wins The Fight. *maniacalchuckles Then we could contrast this lighter scene with when Duke Su was pissed and how he just went about the business of interrogation with the actress who tried to assassinate him and injured his girl instead. We could immediately sense his mood (as with Zi Sheng's pissed off mood).
But pushing both these dramas as all about spoofs really undercut their excellence and degrade both the directors' work. They were masters at bringing a point across to their audience and those scenes above were well-thought out to contrast the moods of their MLs.
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