If a company is certain it will never release in China, then some money internationally is better than NO money EVER. It used to be that if companies in China just quietly waited, subtle shifts in political climate would allow a show to release even it if was 5 or 8 years later (it quite common in China). But the recent climate in China regarding LGBTQ+ is very grim so looks to never be a shift for the next 20+ years....so that puts pressure on these companies just holding on to series they have invested so much in. Risk loosing it all or 'bite the bullet' and just sell rights to another company outside China where it can air. Make no mistake....it sucks for the companies, but would be good for us international folks (and anyone in China risking VPN use or living internationally).
No. But a bunch of other dramas we thought wouldn't be released were (other companies in countries outside China like Thailand and Japan bought rights).... so people are just hoping same will happen for this one. :)
The loss of this series is one of the biggest regrets in the universe. It is a shame considering all their hard work, as well as the epic cast. My heart aches at this lost potential for all of us.
"....Nine out of ten worldly affairs don't go according to one's wishes...You better get used to it." --Great Demon Zhu Yan (Fangs of Fortune [ep 1])
OMG! That is such a great scene also! It is so obvious now that I see it again! I love the writers doing this and for the actors/director to be so on with it :D
Exactly. The first time I watched it, I thought more that Yichen was jealous of ZYZ being around Wen Xiao. But on second watch, you can totally take it as Yichen being jealous of Wen Xiao having ZYZ attention! It was some clever directing, writing and acting. I feel like they did this on purpose to make every kind of fan happy, and I adore them for it.
They threw Dudu’s WenXiao script out the window after her epicness in episode one. 🤣 Her character WenXiao…
Yeah.... it made sense for the writers for this story, I guess. 😑😢🤗🙃 All 3 alive would have been a surprise ending (especially for Cdrama), but that is why they COULD have done it.😂 I still don't understand why the Goddess alone (without killing herself) couldn't solve the plague problem....such a giant plot hole. Though Yichen dying for them would also have been a big twist considering.😂
I just find it is interesting socially for hetero couples, that it is good (expected?) that the male die/sacrifice for the female, but not ok for the female to die/sacrifice for the male. Why would one's sacrifice for the other be any less? 🤨
They threw Dudu’s WenXiao script out the window after her epicness in episode one. 🤣 Her character WenXiao…
Simply, men left to their own devices often make bad/risky decisions. :D This is normal. Trust me; I'd know ;)
>>How often did this happen? I only recall when Yichen stabbed >>Yuanzhou after their three toasts together. I still can't believe >>Yichen did that, risking Yuanzhou's life. I was wonder why he >>went into that mode when he doesn't want him to die anymore, >>that even the thought of him dying makes him cry... Isn't he afraid >>of him dying? Wouldn't he blame himself if it all went wrong? >>That's the sad part. :( Or else they knew Yichen could do it (even >> if the chances were small) which still makes this all the more >>confusing lol. He was even willing to not repair his Cloud Light >>Sword for Yuanzhou's life. Anyway, I know they mean a lot to >>each other. I don't recall Yuanzhou willing to risk Yichen's life, >>after all, he made a promise to him that he will die b4 him >>(which is so selfless of him but super sad).
Just watched this series a second time, so had to up my rating of it. I noticed so many more things on rewatch that really made me appreciate it so much more. Love the multiple meanings in what people said and the multiple layers of context bringing various themes more in depth meaning and often full circle. It is rare for me when a series is even better on rewatch. The plot holes are still there, but they dull in comparison to the rest;)
And ep1 was just such a good beginning (especially music).
After watching it a second time, I noticed all these moments with multiple interpretations. My fav is when Yichen tells him to 'do what he does best' and ZYZ lowers his eyes almost shyly saying it isnt' really the right moment for this. Had me cackling like a lunatic at that innuendo as Yichen responds in exasperation with 'Acting! I meant acting!"
They threw Dudu’s WenXiao script out the window after her epicness in episode one. 🤣 Her character WenXiao…
Oh, I so love your explanation/insight into the curse aspect! So good!
It kinds nagged on me that they could have ended it in a big way with Wen Xiao doing what the Goddess does best and sacrificing herself to save the world (they could have gave her an epic ending that was fitting for her character) and saving her friends. Then upon her death, she transfers the Baize Token to ZhaoYuanZhou which makes sense for the following reasons: 1) It will indefinitely prevent him from ever losing control ever again. 2) He is a vessel for the power that drives the Baize Token anyway (malicious energy). 3) He will live 'forever' so bring stability to the 'Goddess' position. 4) He has shown he cares for BOTH realms and understands both demons and humans. He was even groomed for it by the last two Goddesses. 5) He won't be lonely because since YiChen is also a demon now, he'll live a long time as well, helping to keep the peace in both realms.
There was a quote earlier in series where it basically said that humans were born ignorant so needed to learn knowledge, and demons were born aggressive so need to learn restraint. ZhaoYuanZhou is the definition of restraint at this point: A demon who becomes like a human. While YiZan is a human who becomes a demon (obtaining understanding/knowledge).
To the new viewers! What do you think of the Pei siblings’ story? lol I still can’t forgive SiJing even if…
I feel like the Pei sibling story line is a reflection of how most humans in this world are. Demons are bad to them; they don't try to see past that. It is a theme they repeat even when Yichen starts turning into a demon (becoming the outcast where noone gives you a chance). Not to mention how ZhaoYuanZhou was treated by everyone. Demons are the outcasts; it is rare for humans to look past the negative. But that is why is matters: the changing attitudes of these 6 who learn about one another and become closer.
The Pei siblings I feel also is supposed to highlight the forgiveness aspect that overlaps with ZhaoYuanZhou to Yichen (killing of his family) and to WenXiao (killing of her master). Forgiveness doesn't mean you have to be happy about it or forgetting it....but you can take those feelings and redirect them into a more positive way instead.
Idk....I felt like something was left out of the Pei sibling story also.... like there must be more details that we don't see that lead up to her killing her brother. But I guess she is supposed to represent regular humans and their irrational distrust of demons to help highlight how different WenXiao is. What you think?
They threw Dudu’s WenXiao script out the window after her epicness in episode one. 🤣 Her character WenXiao…
We also found out toward the end, that if Yuanzhou dies instead of WenXiao.... he releases (lets free) all the malicious energy that is needed for the cycle goddess token to repeat: The interpretation was that the current goddess gets a whole bunch of power from this which she needed to make it rain to make that demonic plague go away. It *is* a lot of hand waving, I agree....and really you can prolly see some plot holes already....but she is also close to both of them, so there is that, too. Gotta have the mandatory angst! 🤣
Also, don't let us forget, in the beginning, they also talked of the curse from his family line where Yichen is supposed to kill a powerful demon with his sword. At first they spoke of it being fated, as if it was a good thing (like the story of his ancestor killing the 'evil' dragon....which we found out later wasn't the full story), but WenXiao's father, was like "no; it is a curse". So that came full circle also: cursed to kill his best friend.
If a company is certain it will never release in China, then some money internationally is better than NO money EVER. It used to be that if companies in China just quietly waited, subtle shifts in political climate would allow a show to release even it if was 5 or 8 years later (it quite common in China). But the recent climate in China regarding LGBTQ+ is very grim so looks to never be a shift for the next 20+ years....so that puts pressure on these companies just holding on to series they have invested so much in. Risk loosing it all or 'bite the bullet' and just sell rights to another company outside China where it can air. Make no mistake....it sucks for the companies, but would be good for us international folks (and anyone in China risking VPN use or living internationally).
"....Nine out of ten worldly affairs don't go according to one's wishes...You better get used to it."
--Great Demon Zhu Yan (Fangs of Fortune [ep 1])
All 3 alive would have been a surprise ending (especially for Cdrama), but that is why they COULD have done it.😂 I still don't understand why the Goddess alone (without killing herself) couldn't solve the plague problem....such a giant plot hole. Though Yichen dying for them would also have been a big twist considering.😂
I just find it is interesting socially for hetero couples, that it is good (expected?) that the male die/sacrifice for the female, but not ok for the female to die/sacrifice for the male. Why would one's sacrifice for the other be any less? 🤨
This is normal. Trust me; I'd know ;)
>>How often did this happen? I only recall when Yichen stabbed
>>Yuanzhou after their three toasts together. I still can't believe
>>Yichen did that, risking Yuanzhou's life. I was wonder why he
>>went into that mode when he doesn't want him to die anymore,
>>that even the thought of him dying makes him cry... Isn't he afraid
>>of him dying? Wouldn't he blame himself if it all went wrong?
>>That's the sad part. :( Or else they knew Yichen could do it (even
>> if the chances were small) which still makes this all the more
>>confusing lol. He was even willing to not repair his Cloud Light
>>Sword for Yuanzhou's life. Anyway, I know they mean a lot to
>>each other. I don't recall Yuanzhou willing to risk Yichen's life,
>>after all, he made a promise to him that he will die b4 him
>>(which is so selfless of him but super sad).
And ep1 was just such a good beginning (especially music).
It kinds nagged on me that they could have ended it in a big way with Wen Xiao doing what the Goddess does best and sacrificing herself to save the world (they could have gave her an epic ending that was fitting for her character) and saving her friends. Then upon her death, she transfers the Baize Token to ZhaoYuanZhou which makes sense for the following reasons:
1) It will indefinitely prevent him from ever losing control ever again.
2) He is a vessel for the power that drives the Baize Token anyway (malicious energy).
3) He will live 'forever' so bring stability to the 'Goddess' position.
4) He has shown he cares for BOTH realms and understands both demons and humans. He was even groomed for it by the last two Goddesses.
5) He won't be lonely because since YiChen is also a demon now, he'll live a long time as well, helping to keep the peace in both realms.
There was a quote earlier in series where it basically said that humans were born ignorant so needed to learn knowledge, and demons were born aggressive so need to learn restraint. ZhaoYuanZhou is the definition of restraint at this point: A demon who becomes like a human. While YiZan is a human who becomes a demon (obtaining understanding/knowledge).
Just so many thoughts running though my mind....
World being saved? Yes, happy ending.
All the characters being alive by end? ..... open ended.
The Pei siblings I feel also is supposed to highlight the forgiveness aspect that overlaps with ZhaoYuanZhou to Yichen (killing of his family) and to WenXiao (killing of her master). Forgiveness doesn't mean you have to be happy about it or forgetting it....but you can take those feelings and redirect them into a more positive way instead.
Idk....I felt like something was left out of the Pei sibling story also.... like there must be more details that we don't see that lead up to her killing her brother. But I guess she is supposed to represent regular humans and their irrational distrust of demons to help highlight how different WenXiao is. What you think?
Also, don't let us forget, in the beginning, they also talked of the curse from his family line where Yichen is supposed to kill a powerful demon with his sword. At first they spoke of it being fated, as if it was a good thing (like the story of his ancestor killing the 'evil' dragon....which we found out later wasn't the full story), but WenXiao's father, was like "no; it is a curse". So that came full circle also: cursed to kill his best friend.