I voted Part 2 for first place! I prefer P2 coz itās only then that the CP startsā¦.š¤Ŗ
Yes. Iāve noticed novel readers expressing some disappointment. Iāve been discussing with some of them and was swayed towards novel version thatās why I was asking for the link.
Regardless, I like to rewatch the CP sweet scenes and they are mostly in Part 2. š
Actually truth be told Iām also trying to manage my withdrawal symptoms by reading the novel. šš Sadly Iām a difficult-to-please drama viewer so I find some of the popular currently still airing drama super unwatchable! š¤£
Btw Iām sorry to ask this again, does anyone have the link to the novel. It was posted here before but I canāt locate it! This time Iāll be sure to save the link! š
I really want to move on but WuLu fans keep coming up with old BTS, edited pics and whatnots of the CP together.…
I donāt think thatās a missing scene. Itās a bts becoz if you look closely in the background, the pp walking by are not in period costumes! These 2 were not acting, theyāre just doing their usual frolicking around. š
Itās āqing gongā which is very common in wuxia dramas, but ya kind of out of place in this drama which is…
Actually IMO the dangling at the tip of the pagoda roof was much more ridiculous. His and CSSās body were both fully dangling in the air! At least on the cliff their body was sort of supported by the cliff side of you know what I mean. Plus he was holding on to rough chunks of rock/earth at the cliff bs slippery rooftile with no grip!!
I kind of glossed over this scene. I should rewatch it again. In the drama. All of the above you mentioned. CSS…
Hmmā¦.I watched the livestream but I donāt think ZLS mentioned anything about a missing begging sceneā¦.š¤
Hmmā¦. I on the other hand feel that the drama HBY really regretted his actionsā¦.maybe not at the beginning but definitely after the 5 yrs. Heās constantly saying that what heās done is so terrible itās unforgivable. Of course at the crypt he said outright that he indeed regretted his actions.
Hahaha well YS got what he deserved in the end. His biggest enemy is himself. Way too stubborn and fixated on CSS. I can imagine how miserable his life would be. I think he really loves CSS but in his weird selfish warped wayā¦.
I kind of glossed over this scene. I should rewatch it again. In the drama. All of the above you mentioned. CSS…
Really?! Lusi said that? When? Where can I find the interview? Actually I donāt get what she meantā¦begging scene meant that HBY did not regret his decision? He begged because he regretted his actions. He begged for forgiveness. Shdnt it be the other way? If he didnāt regret it he wouldnāt bother to beg.
Hahaha looks like you really detest YS. I have to say that his drama version version is quite bearable. He redeems himself towards the end. The only time I really didnāt like him was when he kept ignoring YYās attempts to answer his question during his lesson. I tot he was such a horrible teacher and person there and felt bad for YY.
I kind of glossed over this scene. I should rewatch it again. In the drama. All of the above you mentioned. CSS…
Wowā¦after reading your replyā¦I think Iād much prefer the drama stick close to the novel. It wouldāve made the ending more satisfying. It wouldāve made more sense of the line CSS said to HBY at the final scene when she praised him.
But it wouldnāt be easy to depict those complex emotions esp CSSā. ZLS may not be able to portray it. May need to employ the method of āthinking out loudā for viewers to understand.
Btw itās weird that YS was by CSSā bedside when she was close to death! Whoās he to be in an unmarried maidenās bedroom ! 𤣠thatās worse than a tryst.
https://twitter.com/afterrnoont/status/1565353549302624258LLTG 2??? I'm definitely in! Make sure though that there's…
Yes same cast but they must must must resurrect the Empress! I donāt care if they have to add in a supernatural arc to introduce some magic that can raise Empress back from the dead!
I kind of glossed over this scene. I should rewatch it again. In the drama. All of the above you mentioned. CSS…
- HBY asked CSS for tryst?!! I can understand why CSS wld refuse him since she would be engaged to YS then
- I find it interesting that CSSā reaction to HBYās return after the 5yr gap was that of shock. š Shows sheās really been in denial mode all this while. Her actions after that is understandable, getting engaged with YSā¦.to avoid confrontation with HBY. I suppose she was scared she canāt resist HBY because she still hasnāt forgiven him?
- oh Iād really like to see the scene where an unconscious CSS blurts out her desire to be with HBY. Thatās the part thatās missing in the drama for me. I canāt see an ounce of CSSā love for HBY after the massacre incident. So the reconciliation after the crypt/bunker explosion seemed abrupt to me. But I could still accept it becoz it was an extreme situation - a life and death situation. Btw did the novel have that part too? In the novel did CSS reconcile with HBY in the same way? Or was it at the scene right after their fight?
- You mentioned that āYS didnāt tell CSS what he heardā. What did he hear?
- Iām glad to know that the CSS in the novel was apologetic. Iāve always felt that her punishment towards HBY was a little over the top considering the āwrongā that he had done to her and under the circumstances then.
I kind of glossed over this scene. I should rewatch it again. In the drama. All of the above you mentioned. CSS…
Thanks again for taking your time to answer my questions!! š
Iām not sure if I fully understand you thoā¦.so for my ques: Why would HBY and 3P even think CSS still loved HBY based on her actions and behaviour? Your answer is HBY knew becoz of the way she looked at him. Also from his deduction about her behaviour based on the shrimp analogy.
3P doesnāt know much abt CSSā feelings. He only kept tabs on HBY. Am I correct so far?
In the drama the first time HBY saw how CSS was still looking at him was when they bumped into each other at the palace gate. Followed by CSS climbing a horse. Frankly I didnāt think I see love in CSSā eyes š More like pent up anger so much so she wanted to leave asap.
As for the shrimp analogy, is HBY likening himself to the shrimp ā an item that CSS loves but pretends she hates? She said she hate the prawn becoz Empress was allergic to it. She didnāt want to make Empress feel bad abt depriving SS from something she loves. So in the case of HBY, because Empress was unhappy with him, SS then tells Empress she doesnāt love HBY so that the Empress wouldnāt feel bad about depriving SS of HBY?
The part you mentioned above abt Empress giving SS wealth protection, etc and SS start to think about what she wants is this at the start of the 5 year or after?
For the YS part do you mean that SS agreed to marry him because she thought she has the same personality as YS? That is strange for someone like SS who makes firm decisions all the time and knows what sheās doing.
Nothingā¦ā¦ so I felt the only logical way out here is time⦠some time needs to past. Maybe not 5 yrsā¦.…
Yup in modern times I totally agree with you. But ancient China in a palace/ political setting probably quite different. But at the end of the day we know that HBY learnt his lesson and he did change by putting her in charge of Guo Village rescue. He acknowledged CSSā abilities (even though for that particular case I think he grossly overestimated her abilities for she would have surely perished in the fire had her entire family not appeared out of the blue to save the day).
Nothingā¦ā¦ so I felt the only logical way out here is time⦠some time needs to past. Maybe not 5 yrsā¦.…
Not that HBY is superior but sheās 15 and a palace/politics outsider. Heās 21 and grew up in the midst of all the palace/ political drama etc.
He picked CSS coz thatās the only girl he loved and he planned to marry her and give her a good life. Penkuin dying was unexpected. Cumulated but the untimely death of his aunt he was pushed to edge of the cliff (figuratively). Itās still a stupid thing to jump but itās the right decision at that time because he was trying to save the lives of the whole Cheng family. From HBYās perspective if he dies, CSS and family get to live albeit CSS in heartache but if he doesnāt jump, he CSS and her family will be executed.
Nothingā¦ā¦ so I felt the only logical way out here is time⦠some time needs to past. Maybe not 5 yrsā¦.…
Yup I have to agree with you there about being pissed off if someone does what you specifically tell him not to do. However letās imagine this, HBY listens to her and stayed on the horse.They both get captured and tried. Thereās a high chance CSS and family would be presumed accomplices for the massacre and sentenced to death. Do you think that is CSS ā preferred outcome?HBY having grown up in the palace and being a well learned man wouldāve have known the legal consequences and it also wouldnāt be wrong of him to assume that young innocent and uneducated CSS have no idea of the severity of his crimes and the high probability of her family being dragged in. So for him to make that decision to jump is understandable. Making this not a trust issue. The revenge is over so thereāll not be another scenario for HBY to dump her again. So she shd just trust him.
Regardless, I like to rewatch the CP sweet scenes and they are mostly in Part 2. š
Actually truth be told Iām also trying to manage my withdrawal symptoms by reading the novel. šš Sadly Iām a difficult-to-please drama viewer so I find some of the popular currently still airing drama super unwatchable! š¤£
Hmmā¦. I on the other hand feel that the drama HBY really regretted his actionsā¦.maybe not at the beginning but definitely after the 5 yrs. Heās constantly saying that what heās done is so terrible itās unforgivable. Of course at the crypt he said outright that he indeed regretted his actions.
Hahaha well YS got what he deserved in the end. His biggest enemy is himself. Way too stubborn and fixated on CSS. I can imagine how miserable his life would be. I think he really loves CSS but in his weird selfish warped wayā¦.
Hahaha looks like you really detest YS. I have to say that his drama version version is quite bearable. He redeems himself towards the end. The only time I really didnāt like him was when he kept ignoring YYās attempts to answer his question during his lesson. I tot he was such a horrible teacher and person there and felt bad for YY.
But it wouldnāt be easy to depict those complex emotions esp CSSā. ZLS may not be able to portray it. May need to employ the method of āthinking out loudā for viewers to understand.
Btw itās weird that YS was by CSSā bedside when she was close to death! Whoās he to be in an unmarried maidenās bedroom ! 𤣠thatās worse than a tryst.
- I find it interesting that CSSā reaction to HBYās return after the 5yr gap was that of shock. š Shows sheās really been in denial mode all this while. Her actions after that is understandable, getting engaged with YSā¦.to avoid confrontation with HBY. I suppose she was scared she canāt resist HBY because she still hasnāt forgiven him?
- oh Iād really like to see the scene where an unconscious CSS blurts out her desire to be with HBY. Thatās the part thatās missing in the drama for me. I canāt see an ounce of CSSā love for HBY after the massacre incident. So the reconciliation after the crypt/bunker explosion seemed abrupt to me. But I could still accept it becoz it was an extreme situation - a life and death situation. Btw did the novel have that part too? In the novel did CSS reconcile with HBY in the same way? Or was it at the scene right after their fight?
- You mentioned that āYS didnāt tell CSS what he heardā. What did he hear?
- Iām glad to know that the CSS in the novel was apologetic. Iāve always felt that her punishment towards HBY was a little over the top considering the āwrongā that he had done to her and under the circumstances then.
Iām not sure if I fully understand you thoā¦.so for my ques: Why would HBY and 3P even think CSS still loved HBY based on her actions and behaviour? Your answer is HBY knew becoz of the way she looked at him. Also from his deduction about her behaviour based on the shrimp analogy.
3P doesnāt know much abt CSSā feelings. He only kept tabs on HBY.
Am I correct so far?
In the drama the first time HBY saw how CSS was still looking at him was when they bumped into each other at the palace gate. Followed by CSS climbing a horse. Frankly I didnāt think I see love in CSSā eyes š More like pent up anger so much so she wanted to leave asap.
As for the shrimp analogy, is HBY likening himself to the shrimp ā an item that CSS loves but pretends she hates? She said she hate the prawn becoz Empress was allergic to it. She didnāt want to make Empress feel bad abt depriving SS from something she loves. So in the case of HBY, because Empress was unhappy with him, SS then tells Empress she doesnāt love HBY so that the Empress wouldnāt feel bad about depriving SS of HBY?
The part you mentioned above abt Empress giving SS wealth protection, etc and SS start to think about what she wants is this at the start of the 5 year or after?
For the YS part do you mean that SS agreed to marry him because she thought she has the same personality as YS? That is strange for someone like SS who makes firm decisions all the time and knows what sheās doing.
He picked CSS coz thatās the only girl he loved and he planned to marry her and give her a good life. Penkuin dying was unexpected. Cumulated but the untimely death of his aunt he was pushed to edge of the cliff (figuratively). Itās still a stupid thing to jump but itās the right decision at that time because he was trying to save the lives of the whole Cheng family. From HBYās perspective if he dies, CSS and family get to live albeit CSS in heartache but if he doesnāt jump, he CSS and her family will be executed.