WomanWonderer89

This isn't America. Pause the episode and come back if it's too long. I like that the episodes are typically long because they can pack a lot of story, subtext, worldbuilding, and character development into them. The episodes are already few as well. What, should they start taking two to three years to produce 6-8 episode-long seasons as well? Be grateful for what we get.

You clearly didn't pay attention because in RL, Chi Cheng explicitly orders the GANG RAPE of a man who crosses him in ep two and we know he himself does a lot worse in the past as he was not a good person as was mentioned by various associates and past sex partners of his, in comparison to Tuo who committed a few aggressive kisses in the first 2 episodes, and then addressed everything with Junxi in ep. 9. I liked RL, but your bias and comparisons are ridiculous. You can dislike this show but why are you here if you supposedly couldn't get passed ep.4 just to be negative. Personally, I am all for critical thinking, and critical feedback because not everything can be positive and dandy in the comment section. That's counterproductive. But when you are just here to spout nonsense about a show you don't like, that's not an opinion, that's just you throwing shade, and there's nothing constructive or helpful there. Try watching ep. 9 and then come back.

Just watch it. Who cares what others think? It matters what you think. Have some individuality. The problem with BL is that sometimes the fandoms work like a hive mind, and you can't seem to think for yourself. I'm talking generally here. This show in particular isn't bad at all, and Tuo is a lot deeper than most people here give him credit for if they bother to shut up, stop judging, and actually watch the show instead of stopping after a few episodes, but still coming here to spout negative crap anyway at ep. 9. 🙄

That happened to me when commenting on Khemjira, being blocked I mean. I didnt say anything bad, but I did call someone out, politely, mind you, about how they were describing Namping by comparing him to women and pointing how disrespectful those kinds of comments are, as well as when people keep calling his character a damsel when that's a term used for girls. He is not.

People were so rude and I pointed out to be a bit nicer but I wa blocked. so I made another account to call out their immaturity and lack of backbone. Plus, when logged out of your account, you can still see anyone's comments, so the blocks are semi-pointless.

Overall, the point is, there is nothing wrong with criticisms in any page, but in this one for example, flat out calling this show trash is going overboard in my opinion. That's just cruel. Where are the critiques? Why is it actually bad? There are definitely some good qualities to it.

Say what can be fixed and what can be improved. Don't just complain and point out the negatives because that just fuels the hate and leaves no agency behind the criticisms. If you can't do so, then I agree, you should eventually move on and stop being a negative nellie because you are the ruining the experience for those who do enjoy the show.

I can agree. I'm still loving what I am seeing, but it is a trope as old as time. Keng is doing a great job with his portrayal, but yeah. I do understand his reluctance to get close: he is being forced into a situation where he must constantly be around the reincarnation of his past life's dead wife. Technically, he is a widow. He isn't Wat, but he remembers his past life and that past love so it must be difficult to see Khemjira and not see Khemika too, at least a little, even though they are not the same person. Not to mention all the complicated baggage and trauma that comes with getting involved with Khemjira. I also think there is still more than meets the eye to regarding Paran, but ya his hard exterior does seem kind of forced even though Keng's acting is efficient.

I was thinking the same thing. He doesn't even know Junxi, or anything about his relationship with Tuo, yet he thinks he knows best because he's older, so he decides, out of nowhere, to dish out unsolicited advice to Tuo regarding HIS private relationship? No thanks, I do think so! I still don't trust Tuo's mentor anyway. He's arrogant and I think he' thirsty for his mentee regardless if he acknowledges Tuo's relationship status. Realistic or not, would it kill any of the seniors at Junxi’s internship to stand up for him? He’s getting blamed daily for mistakes that aren’t even his, which is creating a toxic workplace culture that could easily be avoided. Yet no one says a word—either because they’re too spineless or because he’s “just an intern" which shouldn't even be a factor, but again, that's realism for you. How pathetic.

Oh ok, thanks. I guess I missed that or totally zoned out. My bad haha

See guys? No cheating! Tuo, I never doubted you 🥰. That kind of behavior would be totally out of character based on everything we’ve seen so far—it just wouldn’t make sense. Some people really let the previews fool them a bit too easily.

Anyway, I thought this was a great episode. I liked how their relationship progressed, and Tuo being considerate about moving in together was a nice touch. That said, I still think they really need to talk about when they’re going to make their relationship public. It’s clearly a major issue they’re avoiding, even though it keeps coming up. But I guess we still need some angst to keep the show dramatic until episode 12.

Next week’s preview was funny and cute—I’m excited for the next episode! But wait… I thought Junxi was an only child? Suddenly, he has a brother with a kid? Huh.

Sorry, but when it comes to Namping, I don’t really see it that way. Just because his character is softer, more gentle, and not as intense as Keng’s doesn’t make him any less masculine. He’s simply written differently—he doesn’t fit into the usual, stereotypical mold of what people often think masculinity should look like or is often depicted.

Nevertheless, Khem’s a victim, and perhaps, he is a damsel for now, but a reluctant one - even though, again, he is not a woman. He knows he’s cursed and even admits he feels useless because he can’t really do anything to help himself, which means he has to rely on others to save him. If Paran were more upfront about the dangers Khem’s facing, maybe Khem could actually prepare to do more and save himself or be more independent. But since Paran isn’t, the best Khem can do is stumble around like a klutz, hiding behind his protection necklace, seeing ghosts everywhere, and not being able to do much about it. Just a thought.

This is why when I watch Khem, I don’t see a woman, a female archetype, or a man lacking in masculinity — I see a person who’s kind, soft-spoken, and emotionally grounded. Not every male character in ANYTHING, regardless of the genre, has to be rough, aggressive, or stoic with rippling or firm muscles to be considered masculine. There’s strength in softness and kindness, and intelligence too. He also seems to hold his own against Paran's sass as well, and I can see him getting more confident and defiant as the show progresses and he develops.

Also, it probably wasn’t your intention, but the way you compared him to Cooeheart honestly came off as disrespectful to both of them. I feel like people are way too hard on Earth, and it’s unfair to him.

I see what you mean regarding the girls, but my stance still stands. I totally respect and understand your POV too, don't get me wrong. But although it may seem more reasonable to go for the safer bet being Tuo, they still never actually tried with Junxi. That's what I am saying. As far as we, as the audience knows, those girls liked Junxi, and Junxi only. They never thought about Tuo until he inserted himself in their lives to keep them away from Junxi. If they really wanted to date Junxi, they could have tried and persisted despite Tuo's involvement and interference.

They could have talked to Junxi, pursued him, confessed their feelings as planned but they didn't because Tuo confessed to them and they miraculously, instantaneously fell for him instead when they claim they supposedly like Junxi first. Some of them could have flat out rejected Tuo and continued on to Junxi but didn't. Some could have been unsure and felt conflicted feelings between the two but didn't. They all chose Tuo over Junxi so quickly. So none of them actually liked Junxi and Tian Xinhui didn't seem to hold herself accountable for that.

My thing is, how is that Tuo's fault when the girls didn't have enough of a backbone to say no? Did he pressure them into dating? Was he persistent when pursuing them? Did he harass any of them? In my opinion, Tuo wasted their time, yes, but they also wasted their own time by not following their hearts. Tuo was bad, he was wrong, he was extremely, harmfully manipulative, and possessive. But let's be real: all these characters are faulty. Tuo's just the most broken.

As for the cheating, I agree, after a
everything Tuo does to get with Junxi, cheating would feel so wasted, detrimental, and out of character. After a potential kiss with his mentor I would be worried there's no going back. But again, I don't think there will be cheating, especially after the misunderstanding in episode 5 and how quickly Tuo wanted to clear things up.

I just need Junxi to be clear with what he wants because he seemed upset when Tuo didn't publicly claim him to his boss, but he also looked scared when the boss asked who Junxi was to Tuo. Bro needs to make up his mind already and save them both the hassle and heartache.

Nope, again those girls had crushes and feelings for Junxi and seemingly had their heart-shaped eyes on him. But the moment someone else comes along, they forget about Junxi just like that? I don't think so. It doesn't matter if it was Tuo or someone else who came in between them.

The point is, the moment the girls were approached by someone else they decided to forget about going for Junxi. When Tuo approached them and said, "hey, I like you, do you wanna go out?" They could have been flattered and all, but said no thank you and still pursued Junxi anyways. But none of them did. I'm not saying they weren't wronged by Tuo and didn't have their time wasted, but they also aren't exactly innocent naive victims since they had no trouble dropping their so-called crush for the next best thing that graced their metaphorical doorstep.

In the most recent episode, we saw clear examples of this happening: a girl wanted to give a love note to Junxi through Tuo, but as soon as he smiled at her and batted his eyelashes to distract her, she became immediately awestruck and smitten, erased Junxi's name and gave it to him instead?! Ya right! And the same thing goes for Tian Xinhui. You really liked Junxi, but then go for his best friend as soon as the opportunity arose and then scold him for wasting your time, which he did, but you didn't have to actually go out with him? Was he ever in your purview? He confesses he likes you but were you actually interested in him too, or did you just like the attention of a hot guy and the idea of having a boyfriend? Not fickle, huh? Seems pretty shallow to me.

On another note, I wouldn't call their relationship abusive. It's definitely codependent. Overly-possessive, and ya, probably toxic. Im sure Junxi is well aware of Tuo's misdeeds and what his cock- blocking over the years has done to his independent relationship development. But he doesn't seem to care. That in itself doesn't seem toxic. Junxi can recognize all of Tuo's past actions and behavior and accept it, without it being called toxic. He doesn't care anymore. At first he did. But now that they are in a relationship, and seemingly, genuinely happy, who are we to judge them?

Clearly, they still have heavy issues to talk through and work out, like their living situation, Tuo's dad , Tuo's past trauma, triggers and abandonment issues, the mentor intruder, not mention them being out as an official couple. But other than those obstacles they two of them seem pretty solid to me.

Hi. I'm sorry, but I’m going to have to disagree with you here. Those girls absolutely showed themselves to be disloyal and fickle toward Junxi. They had their chance to be with him, but the moment his best friend showed them some attention, they jumped ship. Tuo didn’t force them into anything—he didn’t threaten them or blackmail them. All he did was turn on the charm once he realized they liked Junxi. Was that wrong and selfish? Yes. But as the saying goes, all’s fair in love and war. If those girls truly had feelings for Junxi, they could have rejected Tuo and stayed focused on him, but none of them did. Instead, they forgot all about him so quickly and dated his best friend. Once Tuo smiled at them, it was like they all thought, "Junxi who? You're way better, way hotter! Let's go out!" 🤩🤤

And as for their friendship, Tuo didn’t stop being Junxi’s friend—he just pulled back to create some distance so he could sort out his feelings. That’s understandable. It’s not easy to be around someone you’ve secretly loved for so long after they’ve rejected you. Plus, Junxi's " if you keep running, then our friendship is over" ultimatum isn't cool either. Dude clearly doesn't want to talk, but he keeps pushing. It seems they both have problems respecting one another's boundaries. Neither of them is innocent. Tuo is worse, but Junxi has his faults too and isn't exactly a master of communication dos and don'ts. Their situation is messy and not black and white, especially during the first 3-4 episodes.

In the end, Junxi himself doesn’t seem to care about what Tuo did, so why should we? You’re free to criticize Tuo—I see where you’re coming from—but I’m just offering my perspective because I see the situation differently. That said, I definitely agree with you on one thing: Tuo had better not cheat with his sus, slimy mentor, although I really don't think he will.

I liked that Junxi didn’t care when Tuo stole the attention of all those girls in the past. Clearly, they never actually liked Junxi—anyone that fickle and easily swayed by another hot guy’s smile isn’t worth his time. Typical teenage girls🙄. No one has time for that nonsense.

But Junxi and Tuo really need to talk about where they stand, because I’m confused about Junxi. Does he want Tuo to claim him or not? Does he want their relationship to be public or not? He needs to make up his mind. When Tuo referred to him as just a “good friend” to his mentor, Junxi looked displeased—but also wary. So which is it, Junxi? What do you actually want?

And yes, I’m with everyone else on Tuo’s father. You can’t be an absentee parent, use work as an excuse to “provide a comfortable life,” vanish for months, and then show up out of nowhere to judge Tuo and start giving orders and nothing else. Absolutely not.

True. Or maybe as what someone else suggested, Mild really was unfortunately raped that night, but not by Knight by someone else. But he blocked it out, and it turns out it was the same senior who assaulted Kan's patient. Which means the rapist is another one of Mud's friends who was there that night 🤷🏽🤔🫣

he's a second -year

Regarding Mild and Knight, I seriously don't think it's what it looks like. Another Red Herring. A bad, really convincing one, but still a Herring all the same. Mild probably wasn't remembering, as much as just imagining what went down that night. There's no way these writers would expect us to root for this couple in this day and age if that's really their origin story. No way.

Ok, like I said I don't care too much. When I said I'm waiting to be surprised, I meant for the plot. I'm ok if it's still PoohPavel 😅

Either way, I'm ok as long as it's a good show and it makes sense for the storyline. I don't know the novel, and I watched the pilot like a year ago, so I can't remember the details or the dynamics between the characters. I'm waiting to be surprised ☺️

Maybe they are Changing it up for this one. Some people may want to see Pavel be more dominant, who knows?

It's kind of a dumb practice, but the "top" in the relationship is always named first in the ship name. So before it was PoohPavel (PitBabe), now it's PavelPooh. Guess that should tell you what their dynamic will be in this show 😏. But that's how it is for all couples as far as I can tell.