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I think it mixes a certain type of mystery with flirty tension rather well. All characters feel like they have depth and motivation. It's not fluffy, but has cute moments I'd say.

It was a general statement more so explaining why people might have thought it felt sudden. I wasn't implying that everything he has done is a complete unknown. So I wasn't saying that kiss was an act to further whatever plan.
Akk being on the dark side might help them think that it was sudden even more. I just think Akks motives are more clear. He doesn't appear to be a manipulator, but one easily manipulated. His dark side isn't related to the romance. He might end up using their closeness at some point and sort of did before, but it was reactionary. As in Ayan brought him to his house that one time...took a shower to leave him alone with the journal... all on his own. Akk was actively trying not to go to his house originally.

Ah, makes sense.

I agree for the most part. There were some hints like you mentioned, but some might not have picked up on it or just forgot. At least I can understand why someone might not be sure. Especially since Ayan has been purposely doing this or that to further his goal. We just dont know which actions are for revenge or loving feelings or both.

The notebook...I like to think he planned it in some way. Planned to make it look important enough to cause someone to act in order to get information. Or faked it getting stolen to do something similar. He isn't dumb so I doubt there was ever anything incriminating in there...for him in particular. His necklace is probably his real treasure. Who knows though.

The food scene totally reminded me of PatPran, but different.
The kiss didn't really though.

I mentioned this earlier I think, but maybe it's because Ayan is harder to read. We know his purpose, but not really his plan. We don't even know what his ultimate goal entails. He has always been teasing and has somewhat unknown motives. Whereas Akks motives are a lot more clear. We have known he likes Ayan and is struggling with his "duties". With that said, one could say Ayan just gave into the moment when he was weak and sleepy. Thus negating all the reasons I mentioned that might have bothered someone. The only one left is them not being sure if Ayan really likes him or at least the level of like.

I'm curious why he had the dream.

There are always bad apples in any fandom/ship/etc
Life unfortunately.

Yeah, the bashing is too much. I feel like it's okay to like some actors better than others or maybe even say you like this but not that while adding the interest in improvement or whatever. There are just better ways to state things.

I think it had a good and bad effect, but I don't think it created any actual damage at the end of the day. It'd be different if they were in it most of the time.

Directors can help or hinder each actor individual. The casting can play a part, but it's not the only factor. Hence why I don't think it's the worst thing.

The last part is a bit ridiculous, but there will always be extreme thinkers/fans.

Are you you saying a lot of people are saying eclipse has no plot/chemistry? Cause that's definitely odd.

As for chemistry in general, that's personal to the individual. You can't help if you don't feel the connection. Whether there is a good reason for the lack of feeling or not.

True true
I'll probably try it at some point.

Yeah, he did fine acting in that but the show wasn't great. It didn't show his acting chops much. It's interesting how a director or the story itself can help or hinder actors whether they are good or not.

I usually felt New was holding back. Wait, they cut the underwater kiss? Weird. Maybe because it was at the beginning and didn't fit the flow.

I wasn't particularly taking you seriously.. more so just pondering. haha

The parents appeared to not know at first , but probably found out gradually as the years passed. It was implied by how PatPran went around not really being super secretive/worried. Possibly giving slight hints at some point. That was the plan. To let time heal while still being together. It seems to be working, but probably not obvious enough for the boys to just be completely open. Yet we are left with feeling as if that will happen.

Oh, TOL is up there. That's cool. It isn't talked about as much. I liked it though.
But yeah DBK is good as well~

I don't know if I can handle it being that long. Hence why I haven't tried. haha

Hmm Is the 2 kiss thing a more recent Gmm trend?

Yeah, I didn't feel the kiss was sudden. I'm unsure about Ayan though. Maybe that's why they felt that way. We definitely know Akk has been liking him. With Ayan it probably didn't start off that way and his methods/motivation is not as clear. He's been relatively acting the same while showing glimpses of raw emotions when around Akk.

Yeah Not Me was good as well. Now I kind of want to actually rate kiss scenes for fun. Seems kind of intrusive though. haha

Khaotung has always been good in my eyes since he was my favorite in 2gether. haha Just playing a side character.