ML: It was me. I never imagined back then that I'd do such a thing.
ML: can not move beyond my origin point
Now canon: * Ghost and Kim Man Ok are related by blood, however, only by 13% (it means a few generations between them) * Ghost and Kim Man Ok share the same blood type: cis-AB * Detective Jung Sae Byeok and Ghost are fully related by DNA * ML's father needs to die for the Grid to exist * The janitor (Man Ok's stepfather) needs to die for the Ghost to exist -- quoting: "The Ghost can't exist without Man Ok." * Man Ok's birth name was "Lee Si Won" * Dr. Kwon's (ML's father) code was the "key" to running the Grid. * In the "mother-is-healthy reality", the other labs where the Ghost appeared to finish the Grid, all kept quiet. -- The IRR (predecessor of AB) showed them a footage of time travelers, which forced them to keep quiet. -- Korea then announced Dr. Kwon as the "father of the Grid".
Time travel rules (canon): * Ghost: "time does not flow" * When a person travels back in a time period where they already exist (or were there before), they replace the copy with the time traveler version. -- This means that there can never be more than one version of the same person. -- Age matters. An adult version will not replace a younger version. Age gap is unknown. -- There is definitely only 1 timeline. This show is not based on MWI (many-worlds interpretation) theory.
Mysteries: * The latest DNA of the Ghost is "normal". * ML said, they "have to kill the janitor together". -- This explained why the Ghost was not surprised every single time the ML showed up. -- Relative to the Ghost everything already happened. She is simply nudging events to happen exactly the way they did in her own version. * ML said, "The Ghost came to the past to build the Grid." -- However, there was already a Grid Dr. Kwon was building. -- This means that the Ghost came back to 1997 to finish the Grid far earlier. The software code was not meant to be finished by May 1997. * 1997 scene: ML: How much time do I have left?
Extra: * Someone left a comment weeks ago that in the interview of the cast, they revealed that there are actually 3 versions of the Ghost. Here's my guess: -- 1st version: 1997 Ghost (the very first time the Ghost time traveled) -- 2nd version: after the ML restored the Grid himself, he met the Ghost multiple times. In one instance, the Ghost said, "you are ruining everything". -- 3rd version: the "captured Ghost" -- she is the version that is nudging events to happen exactly the way they did in her own version of the future. She intentionally let herself be captured so the ML would time travel. Again … to make sure things happen as they should.
Bonus: -- another thing that changed: AB now have obvious doors -- Ghost intentionally let herself be captured in the "Ghost-was-captured reality" to make sure ML goes back to the past. -- Name of AB/IRR security guard: Han Wi Han
lol really to that extent?? it ruined the whole drama for you!! For me i don't see it was out of nowhere since…
Kang is distracted because he's in love. People who are deeply in love, especially those too afraid to confess, act that way … out-of-focus, distracted, their minds are always wondering, and so on.
This is based on Marco Polo Bridge Incident in 1937 right?which start the Second Sino-Japanese War?The Second…
Not exactly. The "Lugou Bridge Incident" happened sometime in July, The "Defense of Sihang Warehouse" happened in October to November.
The much larger conflict, the "Battle of Shanghai" happened from August 13 to November 26. It was one of the largest and bloodiest front in the entire "Second Sino-Japanese War".
It is also considered as the actual date World War II started in Asia-Pacific. In some circles, WW2 in Asia-Pacific started all the way back in the Manchurian Incident (Japan) / September 18 Incident (China) in 1931.
How was a historical war a "chinese propaganda"? As a distant relative of Commander Xie, we are deeply insulted that his effort was simply dismissed as "chinese propaganda".
the weird thing is it says most viewers are age 13-17
Yep. And I don't understand what satisfaction they get from doing that … especially here in MDL when practically no one reports the ratings here in any website or social media/network … the only ones who sees it are MDL users.
the weird thing is it says most viewers are age 13-17
Never trust the MDL ratings. There are groups and individuals with multiple accounts. They use it to destroy the ratings of a show if they don't like it.
It's also cool to see what the work environment is in a place surrounded by rural towns, especially in SoKor.
What's more interesting is the work they depicted in the show is an outsourcing company, a contact center at that.
I can't believe there are companies who goes all the way to assigning your "lunch buddies". In the Philippines, it ends in break scheduling, whoever you want to eat lunch with is your freedom of choice.
It's very rare to see a TV series about real rural life. How slow it is, how neighbourhood work is pretty much the same day in and day out, the travel distance and when you don't make it in time for the one lone service, you'll have to walk.
It's a simple life. Probably boring for most, and too repetitive. But for me, as someone who was born, grew up, lived, worked, in a highly urbanized region, it's a life I want to spend the rest of life in.
Btw, in which episodes when the ghost said "Time Doesnt Flow". I wanna check the scene again.
I think it was episode 5 or 6, after she was captured and under drugs. Eo Jin asked her a lot of things, in one the Ghost answered "time doesn't flow" and Eo Jin reacted as if he understood the ramifications of her revelations.
After that, the series moved on and did not expound on it further.
So, for now, we're stuck with real-world theories based on that very concept "time doesn't flow".
Hopefully, in the last two episodes it will be revealed.
ML: can not move beyond my origin point
Now canon:
* Ghost and Kim Man Ok are related by blood, however, only by 13% (it means a few generations between them)
* Ghost and Kim Man Ok share the same blood type: cis-AB
* Detective Jung Sae Byeok and Ghost are fully related by DNA
* ML's father needs to die for the Grid to exist
* The janitor (Man Ok's stepfather) needs to die for the Ghost to exist
-- quoting: "The Ghost can't exist without Man Ok."
* Man Ok's birth name was "Lee Si Won"
* Dr. Kwon's (ML's father) code was the "key" to running the Grid.
* In the "mother-is-healthy reality", the other labs where the Ghost appeared to finish the Grid, all kept quiet.
-- The IRR (predecessor of AB) showed them a footage of time travelers, which forced them to keep quiet.
-- Korea then announced Dr. Kwon as the "father of the Grid".
Time travel rules (canon):
* Ghost: "time does not flow"
* When a person travels back in a time period where they already exist (or were there before), they replace the copy with the time traveler version.
-- This means that there can never be more than one version of the same person.
-- Age matters. An adult version will not replace a younger version. Age gap is unknown.
-- There is definitely only 1 timeline. This show is not based on MWI (many-worlds interpretation) theory.
Mysteries:
* The latest DNA of the Ghost is "normal".
* ML said, they "have to kill the janitor together".
-- This explained why the Ghost was not surprised every single time the ML showed up.
-- Relative to the Ghost everything already happened. She is simply nudging events to happen exactly the way they did in her own version.
* ML said, "The Ghost came to the past to build the Grid."
-- However, there was already a Grid Dr. Kwon was building.
-- This means that the Ghost came back to 1997 to finish the Grid far earlier. The software code was not meant to be finished by May 1997.
* 1997 scene: ML: How much time do I have left?
Extra:
* Someone left a comment weeks ago that in the interview of the cast, they revealed that there are actually 3 versions of the Ghost. Here's my guess:
-- 1st version: 1997 Ghost (the very first time the Ghost time traveled)
-- 2nd version: after the ML restored the Grid himself, he met the Ghost multiple times. In one instance, the Ghost said, "you are ruining everything".
-- 3rd version: the "captured Ghost" -- she is the version that is nudging events to happen exactly the way they did in her own version of the future. She intentionally let herself be captured so the ML would time travel. Again … to make sure things happen as they should.
Bonus:
-- another thing that changed: AB now have obvious doors
-- Ghost intentionally let herself be captured in the "Ghost-was-captured reality" to make sure ML goes back to the past.
-- Name of AB/IRR security guard: Han Wi Han
So here goes:
Tangled (2010)
Frozen (2013)
Maleficent (2014)
Into the Woods (2014)
Cinderella (2015)
Aladdin (2019)
^_^
The much larger conflict, the "Battle of Shanghai" happened from August 13 to November 26. It was one of the largest and bloodiest front in the entire "Second Sino-Japanese War".
It is also considered as the actual date World War II started in Asia-Pacific. In some circles, WW2 in Asia-Pacific started all the way back in the Manchurian Incident (Japan) / September 18 Incident (China) in 1931.
* Viu PH: https://www.viu.com/ott/ph/en-us/vod/399299/The-Eight-Hundred
* Viu SG: https://www.viu.com/ott/sg/en-us/vod/399299/The-Eight-Hundred
I also love how they used Quando, Quando, Quando in episode 1. It was simply perfect.
https://lovekpop95.com/2022/04/11/sbs-will-air-the-remaining-4-unaired-episodes-of-a-business-proposal/
What's more interesting is the work they depicted in the show is an outsourcing company, a contact center at that.
I can't believe there are companies who goes all the way to assigning your "lunch buddies". In the Philippines, it ends in break scheduling, whoever you want to eat lunch with is your freedom of choice.
It's a simple life. Probably boring for most, and too repetitive. But for me, as someone who was born, grew up, lived, worked, in a highly urbanized region, it's a life I want to spend the rest of life in.
After that, the series moved on and did not expound on it further.
So, for now, we're stuck with real-world theories based on that very concept "time doesn't flow".
Hopefully, in the last two episodes it will be revealed.