It was going well so far until that fight scene in the basement parking in E02. The choreography was bad and the…
Anyway. I think this is a project to test if bringing in multiple top actors is doable.
If this becomes a success, the K-drama industry will be emboldened. Otherwise, they'll keep with the usual two top actors + second-best or third-best as support or secondary main characters.
It was going well so far until that fight scene in the basement parking in E02. The choreography was bad and the cinematography was like an undergraduate doing their thesis.
Mirr was weird. The possessed humans were a step or two from her and she didn't see them until she got punched hard. Like, is she blind or just a fool? The problem with the latter is that she's thousands of years old.
No wait. The problem with all of the kids, they're thousands of years old and they don't know how to fight properly?
Fine. Maybe they are acting based on their animals. Mirr is the dragon, so why is she weak and acting like she has tunnel vision getting punched when the enemies were in front of her?
Making characters a fool when they're not supposed to be is a 60s style of writing and filming.
Just the typical trope: Evil sealed away > thousands of years later is back > this time some human wants…
They just want a project where the top actors are together. And see if they can smash in everyone with the limited budget and screentime.
Think of it as the Thanos fight. How do you fit in all the top actors whine giving them almost equal screentime?
If.this becomes a success, everyone else in the industry, especially the networks, won't be afraid anymore in writing such stories. Currently, K-drama land is practically two top actors as main characters, they need to break that tradition and fear.
So, maybe this is one such attempt to show it is doable.
Other than that, it's your typical good vs evil plot.
I confess that I still don't quite understand the story, but he has a kind of dirty, dark air about him.
Just the typical trope: Evil sealed away > thousands of years later is back > this time some human wants to steal the power > but the awakened fallen angel has plans of his own > some dies > eventually good triumphs again.
E03: 2nd restaurant because selling a loaf of bread with dish fillings is not viable. Many branded bread companies…
Additional for E03:
The cave restaurant is not unreal. Maybe in Korea (but obviously not). We have all sorts of "unreal" here in the Philippines like a cave restaurant or eating while your feet are soak in a river where a waterfalls is connected (near you too)—buffet eat-all-you-can setup too (I've been there back in the late 80s/early 90s, and again in late 90s/early 00s). I think we do have that doctor fish setup too but I haven't been there, only my cousins.
Another thing, someone did mention that caves can collapse depending on what type of stones it's made of. Since the cave is still standing despite the water seeping through it, they should've ignored the location already. 😅 The location isn't the issue, it's the food. The reason they missed the Bread was because they focused on the location = inside a mall = "I highly doubt they'll sell fake products". 😝
Just watched the first 3 episodes, so far easy to guess. 🤪
E03: 2nd restaurant because selling a loaf of bread with dish fillings is not viable. Many branded bread companies have tried that here in the Philippines and failed. So, instead, they switched to selling one small bread with dish fillings in convenience stores. One you can buy for a quick fill.
Also, bread with dish fillings must be sold and consumed within 72 hours usually. Placing it in a freezer or fridge, then reheating it is a very bad idea. One, if it's microwave, it only heats the inside. If it's an oven, only the outside. And the more you do cold-reheat, the faster the bread and potentially the dish fillings gets bad.
So, a loaf of bread with dish fillings, a 50-cm long and thick-wide loaf at that, is a bad idea for the business. You might end up with getting bad reviews too.
Just watched the first 3 episodes, so far easy to guess. 🤪
E02: 2nd restaurant because because the supposedly signature dish is not in front of their restaurant like their other menu items. The production crew forgot about that little detail. It would've worked if they added a standee outside or something.
Extra: I am definitely interested with that Kimchi Bomb Chicken. Added in my bucket list.
Just watched the first 3 episodes, so far easy to guess. 🤪
E01: 2nd restaurant because they are using bought ice cream and selling those special dishes for an affordable price. That doesn't make any sense. If they were making their own ice cream, then it would make sense for that price.
Special comments:
Restaurant 1: butter for meat isn't new. The owner was right that it's popular in other countries. One such is the Philippines. We've been doing that since the 80s.
Restaurant 2: ice cream + dish. Not new either as far as food is concerned. I've tried that here in the Philippines decades ago. They commented how it's good for spicy food because it balances the spiciness. That is very true, again based on experience. It's actually a very good idea to mix ice cream with dishes IF done right.
So, I really hope they are still selling those dishes with ice cream. They just need to make their own ice cream or find a more affordable alternative (maybe make a deal with an ice cream supplier), or increase the price to cover the cost. For me, the former is better than increasing the cost since they were already selling it at that price for a month.
People complaining about the age gap are people who are living with their heads burried under the sand, most especially if they are Filipinos who lived and are still living in the Philippines. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I. ML was supposedly a fresh graduate in 2009.
1. We graduate high school (Grade 10) at age 16-17 years old. I graduated from High School (Grade 10) when I was 16 years old. 2. Most college courses are 4 years. Let's assume the ML was 16 so + 4 years = 20 years old when he graduated with a degree on Fine Arts.
ML was 20 years old in 2009.
II. FL was a fresh graduate in 2024.
This is not needed since we know FL was only 7 years old in 2009. It's just here for context.
1. They graduate high school (Grade 12 (a.k.a Senior High) at age 18-19 years old. 2. Let's assume she was 18, so + 4 years college course = 22 years old. (Her Birthday was on September 21, 2024 when she turned 22. 5 days later, they fought. The following day was September 27, 2009 Lotto draw.)
III.
1. Their gap was only 13 years, not 15. 2. ML was 35 in 2024, while FL was 22. 3. ML built himself a successful business and reputation. 4. The legal age in the Philippines is 18 years old for both male and female. 5. FL graduated from college in 2024, 5 to 6 months before she turned 22.
In the Philippines, as long as the couple are legally adults and capable of thinking independently without any mental/emotional/alcohol/drugs that can affect their decision making process, they can get into a relationship and get married.
15 years is not uncommon in Philippine society. 20 years is the max culturally speaking (rarer but still acceptable). Anyone who discriminates against you because you have a 15 years gap can be brought to the court for defamation and discrimination.
6–12 years is common.
0 to 5 years gap is becoming common because of school and office romances.
No matter which angle we look at it, they are both adults who are capable of making their own decisions, and they were not under any influence or duress. It still is acceptable in Philippine society and culture. No laws violated.
In other words, don't downrate the show just because our laws, society, and culture, doesn't align with yours, wherever you are. I'm sure you won't like it if we say how wrong your laws, society, and culture are if our position's reversed.
It know it is not an easy topic but this is something we have to face sooner or later. So, I'll share it for one…
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* A chimera is an organism with DNA from another regardless if it's the same or different species. There are natural and lab/artificial chimeras even in humans. There were recorded cases of natural human chimera, and in one it caused issues for a mother who was trying to claim a medical benefit for her child (their DNA aren't matching, until someone familiar forwarded it to a scientist).
A chimera is not the same as what's depicted in fiction. What fiction calls a chimera is actually called a hybrid.
* Embryo fusion happens naturally and lab/artificially. It is two (or more) embryos that merged and became one being. Yes, it can happen with humans too, and is not uncommon in fraternal pregnancy. Sometimes, the fraternal twins merge and become a single embryo.
Like in natural human chimera, it can sometimes cause issues because the person have traits of both embryos. For example, one part is darker and the other lighter. Or one eye looks Western but the other is Asian. One trait came from the other embryo.
They do embryo fusion in labs too. Yes, human embryo fusion. But they don't let it grow, or at least no one admitted of doing so.
* Embryo twinning is splitting an embryo into two to produce identical twins. There's natural and lab/artificial. The first artificial human embryo twinning was in the 90s, in Australia.
* Frozen embryo is nothing new, obviously, it's standard in IVF clinics. Recently, a baby was born that was frozen as an embryo since the 90s (IIRC the decade).
So, yeah, welcome to the real world. You can read peer-reviewed papers about these technologies.
And human cloning (not human embryo twinning, which is confused as "cloning") is the only one outlawed by the entire world.
It know it is not an easy topic but this is something we have to face sooner or later. So, I'll share it for one final time.
1. We've had rDNA (Recombinant DNA) since the 70s 2. IVF since the 80s 3. Lab/artificial embryo twinning (produces identical twins) since the 90s 4. We completed the human genome map since the early 00s 5. We've been doing lab/artificial human chimeras since who knows when 6. We've been doing lab/artificial embryo fusion for a long time already as well
Who knows what other technologies we have since bioengineering started in the 60s. It's 2025 already, with all these technologies and knowledge, do anyone still seriously think this is nothing but a stuff of fiction?
We've been able to clone human embryo (not embryo twinning) since the 90s! This was simply blocked by many governments so no one is publicly admitting they're doing human cloning!
That's the reality of the world and era we're living in.
this was so far-fetched 😂but I still found it fun to watch if I ignored logic. the action scenes were decent
Not really far-fetched, we already have the technologies needed, and humanity has been doing baby farms, and buying/selling people since B.C.E.
1. rDNA (Recombinant DNA) has been around since the 70s - completely legal
2. IVF has been done since the 80s - also legal
3. Human embryo twinning has been done since the 90s - also legal. Embryo twinning is splitting an embryo to produce an identical twin. The first successful human embryo twinning was in Australia in the 90s. (P.s. Natural embryo twinning is, well, natural, that's how identical twins are made. Lab/artificial embryo twinning is what we did in the 90s.)
4. Surrogacy is legal in many countries, others are neutral, while some it's illegal (It's illegal here in the Philippines even for medical reasons, so mothers go to other countries to do it.)
5. Human embryo freezing has been around since the 80s and perfected in the 90s. Just recently, a baby was born who was originally conceived in the late 90s (IIRC the decade). The baby was frozen as an embryo for decades.
And we haven't even touched the newer technologies in the 00s, 10s, and 20s.
Bioengineering began in the 60s, IIRC the date. We completed the full human DNA map in the early 2000s. We've created vaccines and modified human embryo DNA to "fix" DNA anomalies.
This story is simply the worst-case scenario. A what-if.
What if we combine human desire for revenge and perfection with all these technologies and it there is a person who revived the old practice of baby farms and buying/selling? And what if this person treats these babies as nothing but products? And what if the parents desperate for a perfect child are in to it? What if?
For all we know, it is actually happening already. We have been perfecting all these technologies for decades, I sersiously doubt there are no black labs (government-sanctioned) and underground labs (unregistered) already producing human babies for whatever purpose:
- easy access to human subjects for vaccine tests - soldiers - next evolution of humanity - disposable agents and assassins - or simply to give desperate couples a child of their own based on their own DNA
We can even do real human cloning since the late 90s! Governments simply made it illegal so no one is doing it. But embryo twinning is not illegal. Who's to say couples who go through IVF are not secretly being duped? For every IVF request, they secretly do embryo twinning? The only illegal thing there is doing it secretly, and without permission, but embryo twinning is perfectly legal.
You can do your research about it. But I strongly suggest reading peer-reviewed papers because that's where you'll actually realize how far we have achieved already.
This drama started out so promising, now it's just disappointing. Instead of showing the growth and ingenuity…
I've been thinking about that fince last week.
The only reason I can come up with is the writer and director opted for the rare probability that "since the kids were traumatised, lack social exposure and formal education, they must still be 10-year olds in mind and emotion".
What makes this show great is the fact that it challenges the preconcieved notions, biases, and long-held traditions and interpretations by people about the technologies involved and the logic and/or reasoning behing why people choose it.
For example, a couple who wants a child but they can't. Adoption is an option, yes, but they want something from their own DNA that only technologies such as depicted in this show can provide (mind you, many of which already exists for decades).
But let's push the boundaries further.
1. There's a frozen master embryo that they use for couples. 2. They duplicate that embryo either by cloning or embryo twinning (the latter produces an identical twin). 3. But before that embryo "copy" is placed in a womb, it undergoes rDNA (Recombinant DNA) bioengineering. 4. That "copy" grows, they study it, and then incorporate the good stuff into the master embryo. 5. Repeat the process from Step №2.
Now what are you going to do? 1. As a parent 2. As a scientist 3. As a politician 4. As a stranger 5. As one of the copies
Most especially №5, "What would you do as one of the copies?" - Sanction killing - Sanction imprisonment in laboratories - Let your copies live knowing the legal system will definitely arrest everyone anyway, and society will discriminate against you all
Think about it, you are all copies. No one is an original. The "original" or "master embryo" is a frozen embryo in a lab that was already heavily bioengineered based on the results from copies, one of whic is __you__.
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If this becomes a success, the K-drama industry will be emboldened. Otherwise, they'll keep with the usual two top actors + second-best or third-best as support or secondary main characters.
Mirr was weird. The possessed humans were a step or two from her and she didn't see them until she got punched hard. Like, is she blind or just a fool? The problem with the latter is that she's thousands of years old.
No wait. The problem with all of the kids, they're thousands of years old and they don't know how to fight properly?
Fine. Maybe they are acting based on their animals. Mirr is the dragon, so why is she weak and acting like she has tunnel vision getting punched when the enemies were in front of her?
Making characters a fool when they're not supposed to be is a 60s style of writing and filming.
Think of it as the Thanos fight. How do you fit in all the top actors whine giving them almost equal screentime?
If.this becomes a success, everyone else in the industry, especially the networks, won't be afraid anymore in writing such stories. Currently, K-drama land is practically two top actors as main characters, they need to break that tradition and fear.
So, maybe this is one such attempt to show it is doable.
Other than that, it's your typical good vs evil plot.
Something like that.
The cave restaurant is not unreal. Maybe in Korea (but obviously not). We have all sorts of "unreal" here in the Philippines like a cave restaurant or eating while your feet are soak in a river where a waterfalls is connected (near you too)—buffet eat-all-you-can setup too (I've been there back in the late 80s/early 90s, and again in late 90s/early 00s). I think we do have that doctor fish setup too but I haven't been there, only my cousins.
Another thing, someone did mention that caves can collapse depending on what type of stones it's made of. Since the cave is still standing despite the water seeping through it, they should've ignored the location already. 😅 The location isn't the issue, it's the food. The reason they missed the Bread was because they focused on the location = inside a mall = "I highly doubt they'll sell fake products". 😝
Also, bread with dish fillings must be sold and consumed within 72 hours usually. Placing it in a freezer or fridge, then reheating it is a very bad idea. One, if it's microwave, it only heats the inside. If it's an oven, only the outside. And the more you do cold-reheat, the faster the bread and potentially the dish fillings gets bad.
So, a loaf of bread with dish fillings, a 50-cm long and thick-wide loaf at that, is a bad idea for the business. You might end up with getting bad reviews too.
Extra: I am definitely interested with that Kimchi Bomb Chicken. Added in my bucket list.
Special comments:
Restaurant 1: butter for meat isn't new. The owner was right that it's popular in other countries. One such is the Philippines. We've been doing that since the 80s.
Restaurant 2: ice cream + dish. Not new either as far as food is concerned. I've tried that here in the Philippines decades ago. They commented how it's good for spicy food because it balances the spiciness. That is very true, again based on experience. It's actually a very good idea to mix ice cream with dishes IF done right.
So, I really hope they are still selling those dishes with ice cream. They just need to make their own ice cream or find a more affordable alternative (maybe make a deal with an ice cream supplier), or increase the price to cover the cost. For me, the former is better than increasing the cost since they were already selling it at that price for a month.
I. ML was supposedly a fresh graduate in 2009.
1. We graduate high school (Grade 10) at age 16-17 years old. I graduated from High School (Grade 10) when I was 16 years old.
2. Most college courses are 4 years. Let's assume the ML was 16 so + 4 years = 20 years old when he graduated with a degree on Fine Arts.
ML was 20 years old in 2009.
II. FL was a fresh graduate in 2024.
This is not needed since we know FL was only 7 years old in 2009. It's just here for context.
1. They graduate high school (Grade 12 (a.k.a Senior High) at age 18-19 years old.
2. Let's assume she was 18, so + 4 years college course = 22 years old. (Her Birthday was on September 21, 2024 when she turned 22. 5 days later, they fought. The following day was September 27, 2009 Lotto draw.)
III.
1. Their gap was only 13 years, not 15.
2. ML was 35 in 2024, while FL was 22.
3. ML built himself a successful business and reputation.
4. The legal age in the Philippines is 18 years old for both male and female.
5. FL graduated from college in 2024, 5 to 6 months before she turned 22.
In the Philippines, as long as the couple are legally adults and capable of thinking independently without any mental/emotional/alcohol/drugs that can affect their decision making process, they can get into a relationship and get married.
15 years is not uncommon in Philippine society. 20 years is the max culturally speaking (rarer but still acceptable). Anyone who discriminates against you because you have a 15 years gap can be brought to the court for defamation and discrimination.
6–12 years is common.
0 to 5 years gap is becoming common because of school and office romances.
No matter which angle we look at it, they are both adults who are capable of making their own decisions, and they were not under any influence or duress. It still is acceptable in Philippine society and culture. No laws violated.
In other words, don't downrate the show just because our laws, society, and culture, doesn't align with yours, wherever you are. I'm sure you won't like it if we say how wrong your laws, society, and culture are if our position's reversed.
Welcome my new Number 1 P-drama P-movie = «My Future You» (2024) from Regal Entertainment.
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* A chimera is an organism with DNA from another regardless if it's the same or different species. There are natural and lab/artificial chimeras even in humans. There were recorded cases of natural human chimera, and in one it caused issues for a mother who was trying to claim a medical benefit for her child (their DNA aren't matching, until someone familiar forwarded it to a scientist).
A chimera is not the same as what's depicted in fiction. What fiction calls a chimera is actually called a hybrid.
* Embryo fusion happens naturally and lab/artificially. It is two (or more) embryos that merged and became one being. Yes, it can happen with humans too, and is not uncommon in fraternal pregnancy. Sometimes, the fraternal twins merge and become a single embryo.
Like in natural human chimera, it can sometimes cause issues because the person have traits of both embryos. For example, one part is darker and the other lighter. Or one eye looks Western but the other is Asian. One trait came from the other embryo.
They do embryo fusion in labs too. Yes, human embryo fusion. But they don't let it grow, or at least no one admitted of doing so.
* Embryo twinning is splitting an embryo into two to produce identical twins. There's natural and lab/artificial. The first artificial human embryo twinning was in the 90s, in Australia.
* Frozen embryo is nothing new, obviously, it's standard in IVF clinics. Recently, a baby was born that was frozen as an embryo since the 90s (IIRC the decade).
So, yeah, welcome to the real world. You can read peer-reviewed papers about these technologies.
And human cloning (not human embryo twinning, which is confused as "cloning") is the only one outlawed by the entire world.
1. We've had rDNA (Recombinant DNA) since the 70s
2. IVF since the 80s
3. Lab/artificial embryo twinning (produces identical twins) since the 90s
4. We completed the human genome map since the early 00s
5. We've been doing lab/artificial human chimeras since who knows when
6. We've been doing lab/artificial embryo fusion for a long time already as well
Who knows what other technologies we have since bioengineering started in the 60s. It's 2025 already, with all these technologies and knowledge, do anyone still seriously think this is nothing but a stuff of fiction?
We've been able to clone human embryo (not embryo twinning) since the 90s! This was simply blocked by many governments so no one is publicly admitting they're doing human cloning!
That's the reality of the world and era we're living in.
1. rDNA (Recombinant DNA) has been around since the 70s - completely legal
2. IVF has been done since the 80s - also legal
3. Human embryo twinning has been done since the 90s - also legal. Embryo twinning is splitting an embryo to produce an identical twin. The first successful human embryo twinning was in Australia in the 90s. (P.s. Natural embryo twinning is, well, natural, that's how identical twins are made. Lab/artificial embryo twinning is what we did in the 90s.)
4. Surrogacy is legal in many countries, others are neutral, while some it's illegal (It's illegal here in the Philippines even for medical reasons, so mothers go to other countries to do it.)
5. Human embryo freezing has been around since the 80s and perfected in the 90s. Just recently, a baby was born who was originally conceived in the late 90s (IIRC the decade). The baby was frozen as an embryo for decades.
And we haven't even touched the newer technologies in the 00s, 10s, and 20s.
Bioengineering began in the 60s, IIRC the date. We completed the full human DNA map in the early 2000s. We've created vaccines and modified human embryo DNA to "fix" DNA anomalies.
This story is simply the worst-case scenario. A what-if.
What if we combine human desire for revenge and perfection with all these technologies and it there is a person who revived the old practice of baby farms and buying/selling? And what if this person treats these babies as nothing but products? And what if the parents desperate for a perfect child are in to it? What if?
For all we know, it is actually happening already. We have been perfecting all these technologies for decades, I sersiously doubt there are no black labs (government-sanctioned) and underground labs (unregistered) already producing human babies for whatever purpose:
- easy access to human subjects for vaccine tests
- soldiers
- next evolution of humanity
- disposable agents and assassins
- or simply to give desperate couples a child of their own based on their own DNA
We can even do real human cloning since the late 90s! Governments simply made it illegal so no one is doing it. But embryo twinning is not illegal. Who's to say couples who go through IVF are not secretly being duped? For every IVF request, they secretly do embryo twinning? The only illegal thing there is doing it secretly, and without permission, but embryo twinning is perfectly legal.
You can do your research about it. But I strongly suggest reading peer-reviewed papers because that's where you'll actually realize how far we have achieved already.
🖖🏽
That's how it is for us. But for people who had such an experience? For them it's justified.
So, that brings us to the question: Whose standards should we follow? Who defines what is moral and immoral? The law? Religion? To each their own?
/philosophy
😉
The only reason I can come up with is the writer and director opted for the rare probability that "since the kids were traumatised, lack social exposure and formal education, they must still be 10-year olds in mind and emotion".
For example, a couple who wants a child but they can't. Adoption is an option, yes, but they want something from their own DNA that only technologies such as depicted in this show can provide (mind you, many of which already exists for decades).
But let's push the boundaries further.
1. There's a frozen master embryo that they use for couples.
2. They duplicate that embryo either by cloning or embryo twinning (the latter produces an identical twin).
3. But before that embryo "copy" is placed in a womb, it undergoes rDNA (Recombinant DNA) bioengineering.
4. That "copy" grows, they study it, and then incorporate the good stuff into the master embryo.
5. Repeat the process from Step №2.
Now what are you going to do?
1. As a parent
2. As a scientist
3. As a politician
4. As a stranger
5. As one of the copies
Most especially №5, "What would you do as one of the copies?"
- Sanction killing
- Sanction imprisonment in laboratories
- Let your copies live knowing the legal system will definitely arrest everyone anyway, and society will discriminate against you all
Think about it, you are all copies. No one is an original. The "original" or "master embryo" is a frozen embryo in a lab that was already heavily bioengineered based on the results from copies, one of whic is __you__.
How would you feel? How would you think?
1. Irresponsible parents
2. Bullying
3. Discrimination
4. Environment
5. Lack of moral guidance
Unless we do …