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He's definitely shady, i know from the novel not going to say exactly what he is up to i will just say that things about him and Nubsib are not what you think or what they appear to be right now. But it will be revealed soon.

Yes it is in the novel, he has been lying to Gene about Nubsib trying to manipulate Gene into not dating Nubsib.

Aey is not at all what you think we should start seeing that soon. But you are right about him being toxic.

You are right he is actually after Gene it's in the novel lol

Yes!! thank you i'm so glad someone else gets that. People keep bashing on Sib because he lied and manipulated but defending Aey wait till they find that Aey has been doing the exact same thing.

I believe it was on wattpad but i may not be 100 percent correct about that i went through so many sites trying to find it i can't really remember myself but hopefully that's right.

That's true and i wish he had been honest and tried to win Gene's heart that way but he really believed and was scared that if Gene knew who he was that Gene would only see him as a friend or brother and wouldn't even consider a romantic relationship with him. He wanted to get Gene to fall for him and then tell him the truth thinking that after Gene was already in love with him he would be able to accept his lies. Whether it would have happened that way or not who knows, was Nubsib's way of thinking off yes, but he truly does care for Gene. I mean he had to know that when Gene went home to visit his family that there was a chance of Gene finding out the truth but he didn't try to stop Gene from going to try to protect himself. He let Gene go home even though it meant Gene could find out the truth and could get really angry possibly hate Nubsib. Even knowing that he still let Gene go home because he knew Gene missed his family and that they missed Gene. He put Gene before himself even though the outcome could be bad for him and cost him Gene so it's obvious he cares about Gene. He just didn't act rationally and handle the situation properly. Gene is giving him a second chance he needs to learn from his mistakes and grow and be a better person.

And you are right if he handled it the right way and was honest we wouldn't have this series.

I really like Sib lol. I guess because i can tell he really does care about Gene. He goes overboard with how he shows it though by being possessive and a stalker. And yes he lied which is wrong but i'm sure most of the people in the world have lied at one point in their lives. And i am a big believer in second chances, because honestly if you brush off every person who ever does something wrong or makes a mistake you might end up with no one left, but that's just the way i see it. Now i do believe if you give a second chance and they do the same thing again then yes it will be hard to get the trust back. And how many chances can you or should you give a person?

Gene is choosing to forgive Nubsib, making him earn the trust back he is choosing to give him a second chance which i stand by because everyone deserves a second chance. As long as their are no more lies he will be good. Yes the possessiveness is not great, but you have to understand why he is that way, he isn't that possessive of Gene with everyone. I mean Gene went out with his friends and got drunk and Nubsib knew that and didn't try to stop Gene he did get upset that Tum let Gene get so drunk, but he knows Gene and Tum are friends he doesn't try to keep Gene from seeing or talking to Tum. The person he is most possessive of Gene around is Aey, Nubsib is always telling Gene to stay away from Aey and not to be nice to Aey. And why is that? because Nubsib knows something is up with Aey and doesn't trust him he is trying to protect Gene. Nubsib told Aey to remember what they had discussed and not to go overboard with Gene, so what did they discuss what does Nubsib know about Aey that he was reluctant or afraid to tell Gene? And was he going to tell Gene whatever it was after the banquet but Gene gets called away by Aey first?

I actually know the answer to those questions from the novel i know what's going on that's why i understand Nubsib a little better. Not that i agree with his actions because i don't, but knowing his reasons for some of the things he did makes me not see it as such bad things. He lied yes, but to him he truly believed that if he told Gene the truth that Gene would only ever see him as a friend or a brother and he wanted Gene to see him as a boyfriend. Was that manipulating yes was lying wrong of course but he was a guy in love who was desperate for the person he loved to love him back so he didn't think or behave rationally. Love can make you do crazy things. And the possessiveness he waited so long to have Gene he just wants him to himself is that wrong yes but again love can make people do crazy things. The bossiness he is really just trying to take care of Gene because Gene doesn't take good care of himself. He stays up all night sometimes working doesn't get much sleep doesn't eat properly Nubsib has had to remind him to eat sometimes and fix food for him so he will eat,he's trying to be a mother hen lol. Is that also wrong yes he can take care of him without being so bossy but he truly does care for Gene though and respects him. If Gene is uncomfortable with something or says no Nubsib respects that. And when Gene was completely drunk and was trying to do something with Nubsib, Nubsib didn't so it he didn't even kiss Gene because he knew Gene was drunk and it would have been wrong.

His actions are wrong and a bit overboard obviously but he never had bad intentions, he never wanted to hurt Gene. He just wants to be with Gene he just went about it the wrong way he should have been honest and tried to win Gene over but he thought that wouldn't work.

I agree with your explanation of Nubsib and i totally agree. I do find it strange the way he is so possessive of Gene especially since they aren't dating yet. He is lucky it is Gene because his possessiveness might have scared anyone else off by now, but somehow it doesn't seem to bother Gene lol.

And about Nubsib not having told Gene everything i agree that he hasn't told Gene everything. And yes i agree that it is a problem, but as far as the thing with Aey i think maybe he was going to tell Gene, he was reluctant at first but after Gene got so upset he did tell Gene that he would come talk to him after the banquet, but he never got a chance to because Gene got the text from Aey first and went to meet him. And his possessiveness is backfiring now because like you said he has always been that way with Gene so Gene thinks nothing of it when he warns him to stay away from Aey. But Nubsib is worried and concerned for Gene because he knows something about Aey, whatever it was that he was reluctant or afraid to tell Gene.

I think maybe Nubsib was going to tell Gene. Yes he was reluctant at first but after seeing Gene get so upset about it he did tell Gene that he would talk to him after the banquet he had to go to. But Gene got the text from Aey and leaves to meet him before Nubsib gets back and has a chance to talk to him and tell him. At least that's what i think.

I agree that Sib isn't perfect by any means and yes he lied and manipulated Gene and his possessiveness is kinda creepy, my point was that he isn't a pyscho and it's kinda harsh to call him one just because you don't like him. I don't like his behavior always either but i call it for what it is. I don't like how he is cold and rude to pretty much everyone ,he does only seem to care about Gene, and the way he treats his brother is odd for sure.

And i agree their are psycho's everyday there was actually one that was married to my aunt so i have seen psychotic behavior (he has been put in a mental hospital for his psychotic behavior). So i know how serious their behavior can be. And i was just going by the description the doctors gave of what a psycho is when they diagnosed her wacky husband, and they didn't say all the stuff you said, and when i looked it up online the main definition it gave was the one i listed earlier. From online or from doctors we didn't get the description you gave for a pyschopath so i trusted the doctors well because they are doctors. And they said a pyschopath is always violent and dangerous can they lie and manipulate and everything else you said yes, but usually their lies and manipulation come with violence and danger. And that was definitely the case with the man i know he was always violent. So i just didn't believe Sib was psycho just because he lied and manipulated because he was never violent. And regardless of what a psycho really is or isn't i still don't believe Sib is one.

And as far as Aey i don't dislike him because he is messing with the ship i dislike him because of his character from the novel it kinda ruined his character for me to be honest because i know how he is and what he does. I agree that he hasn't been bad so far other than the way he talked to Gene. And they may not put everything in the show that was in the novel and if not that may help me like his character a little more. You said you can't judge a series by a novel but i don't fully agree with that if the show is based off of the novel how are you not supposed to judge by that and so far the show has been exactly from the novel, so why wouldn't it keep being that way. That is why i have a problem with Aey, don't hate him just not crazy about him. If his character ends up being better on the show than in the novel then that would be great.

I think it's funny how you defend Aey just based off of what you see on the show you have no interest in the novel and that's fine that's your right. But if you knew what he was all about in the book or what he might end up being in the coming weeks would you still defend him so fiercely. Because i can tell you that you are so wrong about him, you said he hasn't been a liar or manipulator but you are so wrong, he has been doing both the entire time. They just haven't revealed it yet lets just say he's very good at it and at hiding it, unless they completely change his character from the novel, but if it is exactly the same as everything else has been so far then your precious Aey is just like Sib. He has been sneakily doing the exact things you hate Sib for isn't that funny? The person you like so much and defend is just the same as the person you have such a problem with. In your words lying is wrong period, but you're Aey is a liar too, and a manipulator it just hasn't been revealed yet. But i know you don't care because it hasn't been shown yet, but it will be soon. And he drugs or at least tries to drug someone, but yeah lets defend him.

I know Sib isn't perfect by any means what he did is wrong, but i am still giving him a chance because i can tell that he truly cares about Gene. And there is such a thing as second chances and i strongly believe people deserve a second chance( within reason). But if we cut off every person who does something wrong or makes a mistake we could end up with no one left because no one is perfect everyone makes mistakes and messes up sometimes. It is up to the other person however to use their second chance wisely and not mess up again, but some people can and do learn from their mistakes. Another reason that i like him is because he is trying to protect Gene that is why he moved in next door to Gene people think it is just because he is clingy, but it's not. That is also why he didn't want Gene talking to Aey or being alone with Aey, because he knows something is up with Aey and Gene might get hurt. Sib knows what Aey is really like and what he is capable of, and that was made evident in the episode when he told Aey to remember what they discussed and not to go overboard. I don't like or agree with all of his actions and of course i don't think that lying and manipulating is romantic, i just know that he didnt't have bad intentions or intentions of hurting physically harming Gene he did everything because he really loves Gene and wants to be with him and he truly thought that if Gene knew who he really was he would be friend zoned and not have a chance romantically with Gene. Does that make what he did right? of course not. Should he have just been honest with Gene and tried to win his heart honestly? yes absolutely but all i can say about that is love makes you do crazy things sometimes, again that doesn't make his behavior right or romantic but he wasn't thinking rationally. I wish he had done things the right way then i would like him more i just understand him and guess the reason i don't see it as so terrible is because i know from the novel what he was feeling and thinking and why he did the things he did and what his motives were. So for me even though what he did was bad understanding why helps. There are so many people dissing on him who haven't read the novel so they don't know the full story, and that is why i think it is important to know about the novel as well as watching the series because some things aren't explained clearly and well on the show but are explained in full detail in the novel which helps you understand things better.

Just because Aey's lies and manipulation and his craziness hasn't been revealed yet you defend him so fiercely for the same behaviors that you condemn Sib and call him a psyhco for, which i find funny. But in the coming weeks Aey's true character should be revealed and then you will see why i dislike him so much. My question is will you still defend him when it is revealed? I certainly hope not, not after the way you've been so harsh on Sib for doing the same things. And maybe you are right maybe i shouldn't judge the character on the show based off of the novel but it's hard for me to do that when the things that are happening on the show have came exactly from the novel. The whole story about Gene and Sib ,every detail have been exactly from the novel, so why would Aey's story be any different? That's why i'm having a hard time judging just based on the character on the show. I agree Bruce is a great actor i have no problems with him as an actor i really think he does a great job it's just the character i'm not crazy about. Just have to wait and see if his character on the show is what i'm expecting or different. But it looks like part of his bad side is going to start being shown next week.

That's fine it's not a problem

I noticed that too and was wondering what happened

Nope, It's a pretty good theory but no lol!!! I know from the novel. Unless they completely change the story from the novel. Plus Aey's father said that he gave Aey's ex a bunch of money to start a business or something and the guy ran away with it. Why would he need to give Nubsib money,Nubsib is rich.

Wow do you not understand what you read? I never once said Sib's behavior was ok in fact i said the opposite. I admit the things he has done has been wrong, weird and crazy and sometimes even creepy. I do admit that, i just said he's not a psycho which he isn't (by literal definition). You asked what qualifies as a psycho well first of all being a psycho or pyschopath is a mental disorder that is diagnosed by a doctor. The exact and literal definition of pyscho/pyschopath is a mental disorder that causes a person to be unstable,aggressive,violent and dangerous. What exactly is it that Sib has done that has been violent or dangerous to anyone? Not one single thing, although he has done some crazy stuff some of which may seem unstable he has not done anything violent or dangerous to anyone so therefore not a pyscho. And until he does something violent or dangerous which is definition pyschotic behavior or they give facts that he has been diagnosed as one i'm not going to call him one. Now if his clinginess, possessiveness and jealousness ends up turning stalkery which could potentially end up being dangerous then yes i would say he is pyscho, but his behavior hasn't turned that way yet. And you said yourself don't condemn Aey before he does something, so you yourself shouldn't condemn Sib as a pyscho until he actually displays pyschotic, violent and dangerous behavior.I know people in real life who are and have been clingy,possessive and jealous and also people who have lied none of which have been diagnosed as a pyscho. I don't really think Aey is a pyscho either because as you said he hasn't really done anything yet i was just saying that if he actually drugs someone like he does in the novel and like it looks like in the preview then that would be closer to psycho behavior than anything Sib has done because drugging someone is dangerous. But i don't know why i am even arguing or explaining to you, someone who contradicts themselves and doesn't make any sense. I mean you literally in another comment was criticizing Gene's reaction saying you didn't understand why he reacted that way and that it was a strong reaction for what had happened, implying that what Sib had done wasn't bad enough for Gene to react that way. But now you are calling Sib a pyscho for the same behaviors that made Gene react that way. CONTRADICTION lol. So which is it was Sib's actions not bad enough for Gene to have that strong reaction or is Sib a pyscho, make up your mind. Also i've seen you commenting a couple of times (maybe more) that Gene lied to Aey and said he didn't like Nubsib and that there was nothing between him and Nubsib, but Gene didn't say anything he was silent, because like you said before he was confused and wasn't sure himself of his feelings, but how exactly did he lie? He literally said nothing Aey just assumed that his silence meant that he didn't like Sib, which is weird because in that situation most people would assume the silence meant yes not no. But either way just because Aey assumed that Gene didn't like Sib didn't give Aey the right to talk to Gene and treat him that way. He was wrong just like Sib was wrong for the things he did (and yes i am aware that Sib has done more than Aey) they both were wrong neither character is perfect by any means, just like no one in this world is perfect. But even though they did wrong or bad things they are not pyscho neither one of them. But apparently you think Aey is a saint because you defend him not matter what defended what he did to Gene saying he wasn't wrong for doing it because Gene lied to him, which Gene never did. and you accused everyone of mistreating him, but i have never seen Gene mistreat him not even once. You think Sib is a pyscho and Gene's crying was a "strong" reaction to Sib's pyscho behavior. WOW!!! I mean literally by what you have said Gene shouldn't have cried and had a strong reaction to Sib's what you call "psycho" behavior. But if you really think Sib is a psycho and what he did was the behavior of a psycho (which again it wasn't) then how could you possibly think that Gene's reaction was wrong or too "strong" seriously contradicting. And yes Sib lied and manipulated Gene which is wrong no doubt. And he is clingy,possessive and jealous which is weird and kinda creepy since they aren't dating but it's still not psychotic behavior. And even though he has done bad things he isn't all bad he truly cares about Gene, he always gets consent from Gene before kissing him, if he does or says anything that makes Gene uncomfortable he stops and backs off, and when Gene was drunk and was trying to do something with Sib, Sib wouldn't do it even though he could have. So he isn't all bad and even though he did bad things i don't think he really meant to hurt Gene. He just really wanted to get close to Gene and have Gene like him as more than a "brother". He definitely handled it wrong his intentions were misguided but i don't think he had bad intenions.

Yes they were deleted scenes they weren't shown on Wetv which is the actual channel the show came on, nor were they included on dailymotion or dramacool ( i have watched on all of those just looking for these scenes). And the director posted the scenes as "deleted" scenes they said to give the fans something extra. So i really don't know how they were included on kissasian when they weren't included in the episodes anywhere else and the director themselves said they were deleted scenes. But lucky you i guess lol. The rest of us who didn't watch on kissasian had to suffer through the confusion until these scenes were posted.

You are right i've read so many different things as well. It is confusing and hard to know what is true we will just have to wait and see.

Yes i think so too

You are not wrong it is in the novel lol.

That just makes Aey even more weird because it's my understanding that he actually likes Gene and not Nubsib but yet him lying about drugging Nubsib is going to push Gene and Nubsib closer together. That doesn't make a bit of sense. I've never read the novel myself just been getting spoilers from people who said they had read it and multiple people said that he tries to drug Gene but ends up accidentally drugging Nubsib. So now i am really confused. Guess just have to wait and see next week, but even if he doesn't actually drug him even pretending that he did just shows how crazy and messed up he is.