I have a question. I saw comments and discussions here and there about the worry of rebirth/reincarnation. Is…
I think modern shows can't show magical elements based on chinese mythology at all. Also for all shows , transmigration is banned. I asked someone from China once.
It has a love triangle for one volume of the three volumes and it's very fundamental to the whole story. It's…
Oh, no problem! 2ha is my favorite cnovel. I haven't read too many but it's my favorite so far and I enjoy talking about it! Yes, TU was low budget, not as much as woh but it needed a lot of CGI so it needed more than woh to begin with. I still think they did a good job, despite their lack of money. I know a lot of people judge TU harshly but it introduced me to Cdramas so it will always have a special place in my heart. I am not by far the most knowledgeable here!lol. There are people who are far more informed about cdramas who have watched shows for decades. I only started watching cdramas last year but I'm a sponge! I absorbed a lot of information about it very fast and I tried to learn more about what I consume. I haven't watched too many shows yet. I'll try my best to tell you about the few shows I've watched and enjoyed. I do have some reviews for those I liked the most. My current favorite is Goodbye My Princess, which I love but it's a tragedy so a lot of people won't risk it. If you want a Xianxia with good CGI, good acting, beautiful set but subpar plot, there is Love and Destiny. I personally prefer Love and Redemption. The plot is better. If you want modern shows, I think Crossfire was the best one I have watched so far. There are a lot of good mystery miniseries too. If you want Harem drama, my favorite is Yanxi palace. I know there are more high-profile shows out there but I like the characters in this one best. If you want good wuxia, Nirvana in fire is basically the holy grail among cdrama watchers! I really like Bloody Romance too. As for historical, there is the long ballad, the longest day in chang'an, love in between, story of ming lan, Winter begonia, and so many more! If you want the original transmigration show, then check out Scarlet Heart. It's a...special one. I hope this helps. I have a couple of lists on my page too. If you want more shows to check out.
It has a love triangle for one volume of the three volumes and it's very fundamental to the whole story. It's…
The transmigration will be scraped! That is illegal in china. They will probably treat one life as a dream or premonition or something which is sad. That's one of the best parts of the book. That's why I think you'll miss out if you don't read the book. It's just impossible for them to adapt the whole thing so you'll miss a lot of cool and dark themes. But if you are someone with specific triggers or trauma, the themes might be too much for you. Either do good research about the book or ask someone to give you some warning. The translation has very serious trigger tagging too. Just do not read this if any of its elements are specially triggering for you or if you disapprove of them. I do recommend this book because I think it's very well-written but I never push people to read it because it's not for everyone, let's be honest. Yes. Mo Ran and Chu Wanning are disciple and master. Mo Ran comes under a 24yo Chu Wanning's tutelage when he is 15. The show starts when Mo ran is 16 and involved with a random supporting character. He's not relevant to the romance though. He is in love with his senior martial brother who is 19yo. That's the third person in the love triangle. The actual romance between Chu Wanning and Mo Ran happens when Mo Ran is 23 and Chu Wanning is 32...but there's a bit of a complication with the ages. I don't want to spoil you. Message me if you want super extended spoilers! Basically a lot of people who haven't read the book accuse it of having childabuse/grooming/p*do... um they assume wrong. The story doesn't actually have any of those. Both characters are adults when the romance parts happen and basically Chu Wanning is not around for a while and Mo Ran makes his transition from teenhood to adulthood without Chu Wanning's direct influence on him so no grooming and nothing between an adult/underage person. The fact that they are master and disciple is also brought up in-universe as a taboo. So the story is aware that this is a forbidden romance and totally acknowledges that. I hope these helped.
It has a love triangle for one volume of the three volumes and it's very fundamental to the whole story. It's…
If they follow the plot then it's absolutely impossible to make the other leg of the triangle happen! It will make the logic of the entire story fall apart! And in the book all three are men, here the sleeper part of the triangle was turned into a woman so as to help avoid censorship. Mainly because the story starts relying a lot on the other pair but that becomes less and less prominent as the story goes on. We don't know for sure but apparently the author had it in the deal that the main couple's pairing should not change at all for the adaptation. It's all speculation until the show comes out though. The angst in not like WoH! That show was so happy and fluffy compared to this! This book is just sobbing from beginning to end. There's a lot of misunderstanding (very plot relevant) and one of the characters is misunderstood by the other and ultimately gets really mistreated by the other character. So all of that is very heavy and it might be hard to get through. The whole point of the plot is about people suffering for unjust reasons. I didn't find this story frustrating though. It's just a very delightful story to read. It has a lot of humor, adventure, tragedy, and romance. But yeah, the main character is an idiot at the beginning and just so blind to the goodness of the other and that could get frustrating? But in the book it was also funny to see just how dumb the main character could be. The untamed was extremely cheap! It's one of the cheapest shows I have ever watched only placing above really poor shows that use like plastic pink swords! lol and the budget wasn't managed very well. For comparison, Woh had a small budget but they put that into getting good costumes and designing very good martial fights and that was smart because that was what their show really needed. TU didn't have that. I would say in its genre, the untamed had the same amount of budget that the romance of tiger and rose had for its own genre. They are cheap shows that just lucked out and became famous! Immortality is the most expensive Bl cdrama out there. It doesn't get better than this for bl adaptations. This is a very niche taste, a very risky endeavor so companies run the risk of losing money when making bls. It's only after The untamed that profiting from this part of the market really became an option. So this show is the first time a big company took a big risk by putting a lot of money into this. I would say this show would be something like the AoL of BL genre, money-wise. It's still cheaper than BG dramas, I think but if any bl show is going to look expensive then this is it! The CGI would be used in similar cases as TU but also more? There is an underwater town in this...and a ghost realm and a lot of stuff like that. So it'll need the kind of CGI that high fantasy shows require. Much more than The untamed and Word of honor. I'll answer the rest in the next comment!
Who is Xingjie?btw, for some reason this comment was notified as being directed at me? I am so confused.
I really hope you're right about the yin-yang rumors that cancel each other out though! I wasn't expecting the show to air this month so I don't care if that August 20th is fake, as long as the show is not getting butchered again!
Who is Xingjie?btw, for some reason this comment was notified as being directed at me? I am so confused.
It's a Bl adaptation though. The rules are changing all the time, if they don't air these soon, they might ban BL adaptations like they banned transmigration because a lot of shows had it in their plot. Then we won't get any of them. There's already too many bl adaptations in the making. If they take up too much traffic in the media, it will work against them. I agree that 2-3 years to work on a CGI-heavy 50-episode show is logical but this show can't afford to make its merry way to completion like an ordinary show. It needs to hurry up! (this brings back that editor's complaint about working 70 hrs up too. Like if they really did over-work everyone, it shows they know the clock is ticking and time is working against them)
I agree. For me, the plot comes first, then everything else. I can never watch any show for an actor if I don't enjoy the plot. I love the book's story, if it's ruined then I don't see a point in praising a mutilated corpse that has just been stuck together with glue and spit.
That's the fear. If they end up censoring all the subtlety that we live for..........πππ
Very little. It wasn't worth it, if you ask me. It didn't change anything. That show just didn't have a kiss. Otherwise it was pretty obvious in both versions. But some bts that was released afterwards had scenes that were cut or something.
Today has been very difficult. I just saw the new leaks that are apparently from yesterday (they look amazing in costumes!) and now I am even sadder!lol
I guess all those leaks of the ghost wedding and the carrying and so on are all gone...if the changes make the show unrecognizable as the book's adaptation then what is the point? We already had to come to terms with major plot lines getting scrapped and now this? Kris Wu better rot in prison for this! lol
Next they'll ban cars because someone died in a car accident. wtf
I think next possibility is October 8/9 but we might face reality of hyx coming out next year or never.
Yes, TU was low budget, not as much as woh but it needed a lot of CGI so it needed more than woh to begin with. I still think they did a good job, despite their lack of money. I know a lot of people judge TU harshly but it introduced me to Cdramas so it will always have a special place in my heart.
I am not by far the most knowledgeable here!lol. There are people who are far more informed about cdramas who have watched shows for decades. I only started watching cdramas last year but I'm a sponge! I absorbed a lot of information about it very fast and I tried to learn more about what I consume. I haven't watched too many shows yet. I'll try my best to tell you about the few shows I've watched and enjoyed. I do have some reviews for those I liked the most.
My current favorite is Goodbye My Princess, which I love but it's a tragedy so a lot of people won't risk it.
If you want a Xianxia with good CGI, good acting, beautiful set but subpar plot, there is Love and Destiny. I personally prefer Love and Redemption. The plot is better.
If you want modern shows, I think Crossfire was the best one I have watched so far. There are a lot of good mystery miniseries too.
If you want Harem drama, my favorite is Yanxi palace. I know there are more high-profile shows out there but I like the characters in this one best.
If you want good wuxia, Nirvana in fire is basically the holy grail among cdrama watchers! I really like Bloody Romance too.
As for historical, there is the long ballad, the longest day in chang'an, love in between, story of ming lan, Winter begonia, and so many more!
If you want the original transmigration show, then check out Scarlet Heart. It's a...special one.
I hope this helps. I have a couple of lists on my page too. If you want more shows to check out.
Yes. Mo Ran and Chu Wanning are disciple and master. Mo Ran comes under a 24yo Chu Wanning's tutelage when he is 15. The show starts when Mo ran is 16 and involved with a random supporting character. He's not relevant to the romance though. He is in love with his senior martial brother who is 19yo. That's the third person in the love triangle.
The actual romance between Chu Wanning and Mo Ran happens when Mo Ran is 23 and Chu Wanning is 32...but there's a bit of a complication with the ages. I don't want to spoil you. Message me if you want super extended spoilers!
Basically a lot of people who haven't read the book accuse it of having childabuse/grooming/p*do... um they assume wrong. The story doesn't actually have any of those.
Both characters are adults when the romance parts happen and basically Chu Wanning is not around for a while and Mo Ran makes his transition from teenhood to adulthood without Chu Wanning's direct influence on him so no grooming and nothing between an adult/underage person.
The fact that they are master and disciple is also brought up in-universe as a taboo. So the story is aware that this is a forbidden romance and totally acknowledges that. I hope these helped.
The angst in not like WoH! That show was so happy and fluffy compared to this! This book is just sobbing from beginning to end. There's a lot of misunderstanding (very plot relevant) and one of the characters is misunderstood by the other and ultimately gets really mistreated by the other character. So all of that is very heavy and it might be hard to get through. The whole point of the plot is about people suffering for unjust reasons. I didn't find this story frustrating though. It's just a very delightful story to read. It has a lot of humor, adventure, tragedy, and romance. But yeah, the main character is an idiot at the beginning and just so blind to the goodness of the other and that could get frustrating? But in the book it was also funny to see just how dumb the main character could be.
The untamed was extremely cheap! It's one of the cheapest shows I have ever watched only placing above really poor shows that use like plastic pink swords! lol and the budget wasn't managed very well. For comparison, Woh had a small budget but they put that into getting good costumes and designing very good martial fights and that was smart because that was what their show really needed. TU didn't have that. I would say in its genre, the untamed had the same amount of budget that the romance of tiger and rose had for its own genre. They are cheap shows that just lucked out and became famous! Immortality is the most expensive Bl cdrama out there. It doesn't get better than this for bl adaptations. This is a very niche taste, a very risky endeavor so companies run the risk of losing money when making bls. It's only after The untamed that profiting from this part of the market really became an option. So this show is the first time a big company took a big risk by putting a lot of money into this. I would say this show would be something like the AoL of BL genre, money-wise. It's still cheaper than BG dramas, I think but if any bl show is going to look expensive then this is it!
The CGI would be used in similar cases as TU but also more? There is an underwater town in this...and a ghost realm and a lot of stuff like that. So it'll need the kind of CGI that high fantasy shows require. Much more than The untamed and Word of honor.
I'll answer the rest in the next comment!
I agree that 2-3 years to work on a CGI-heavy 50-episode show is logical but this show can't afford to make its merry way to completion like an ordinary show. It needs to hurry up! (this brings back that editor's complaint about working 70 hrs up too. Like if they really did over-work everyone, it shows they know the clock is ticking and time is working against them)
I love the book's story, if it's ruined then I don't see a point in praising a mutilated corpse that has just been stuck together with glue and spit.
But some bts that was released afterwards had scenes that were cut or something.
Kris Wu better rot in prison for this! lol