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Replying to Suzy Aug 16, 2024
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FWIW, reading your comment reminded this old person of an even older "Law" which goes higher than your 80%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law

You make several valid points, especially aabout the bias toward nostalgia and "white saviour" complex, but making sweeping ad hominem generalisations about those who have a different pov is likely to prove suboptimal for getting those points acknowledged.
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Suzy Aug 16, 2024
Thanks for a well-structured look at something many have experienced and that most will. I started watching K-Dramas long before the 2018 start date you chose for the framework of your piece, so it was fun to read a retrospective of a long ago journey.

I especially liked your encouragement to look beyond Korea. I completed 100 KDramas in the first 6 months of starting, but it took me another 10.5 YEARS to reach 300 completed, in large part because TW and J Dramas began to match my developing tastes bnetter. So I was delighted to see Trillion Game and especially the OUTSTANDING Someday or One Day referenced in your piece. And for crime thrillers in particular, there's a JDrama network that makes basically nothing but - lookout for WOWOW Dramas.

On the subject of tropes, it is impossible to avoid them. No one will ever be able to keep finding trope-free entertainment, so I prefer to think of tropes as ingredients in a recipe. The ingredients may be the same,. and the recipes may be similar, but the skill of composition and the exact amounts of each ingredient can still produce very different end products. So looking for originality of execution can help. I've found this has helped me enjoy KDramas again, after gongi throguh many of the issues you wrote so well about.

Finally as another recommendation in gratitude for a very interesting read, I would you encourage you to 'look back' if you can. With the exception of "Friends" almost all the content you reference is recent - from 2018 onward (VERY recent for an old person like me😁) As someone who's watched around 400 (OLD) Indian (most, but not all, Hindi) movies, I loved your reference to the subcontinent. But from across Asia, there is so much older content that is worth looking out for. Here's a few to consider, from different countries, years and genres if you're able to access them. Happy hunting and thanks again for a really enjoyable read!

Mars (TW) 2004
Orange Days (JPN) 2004
Kimi Wa Petto (JPN 2003
Coffee Prince (KR) 2007
Woman (JPN) 2013
Punch (KR) 2014
D-Day (KR) 2015
Night Light (KR) 2016
Prison Playbook (KR) 2017
Circle (KR) 2017
Avengers Social Club (KR) 2017
Falsify (KR) 2017
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Replying to burhaa aadmi Aug 7, 2024
I added a couple of my J faves, so I'm happy to see them getting some love πŸ˜€ Thank you for creating the list!
I wouldn't use the number of followers as a guide. I've been quite active on MDL for nearly 5 years, and I still follow exactly ZERO people, not even any of the actors I added to your list. I've never seen the point.
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Replying to ali Aug 6, 2024
This list has became so unexpected lol.
I added a couple of my J faves, so I'm happy to see them getting some love πŸ˜€ Thank you for creating the list!
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Replying to baddie Jul 28, 2024
any recommendations?
Guo Shu Yao has a support role in one my FAVOURITE TW romances, Office Girls. Pretty sure the osculation in that one is acceptable :)
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Replying to mrdramatic Jul 28, 2024
Wow, a romcom without a serial killer. That's weird. :P
Nah, that's a Korean thing. Many TW romcoms are serial-killer free. Ditto J romcoms and C romcoms
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Replying to 7743151 Jul 16, 2024
Anyone else started with Stranger ? I'm so anxious for Dong Jae spin off !
Yes, that spin-off will be interesting. His character was one reason I actually scored Forest of Secrets 2 slightly higher than the excellent season 1
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Replying to Cho Na Jul 14, 2024
You gave up on Thai drama? πŸ˜‰
I cxall this "aural aesthetics" and it's very personal and very subjective. It's also the reason my first Thai Drama is likely to be my last. The language just doesn't fit my personal, subjective sense of aural aesthetics and so I find it challenging to listen to.
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Replying to burhaa aadmi Jul 14, 2024
Yay, another fan of MARS. And Kimi Wa Petto is so quintessentially Japanese. I've avoided all the remakes because…
Yeah it was the K version I took EXTRA efforts to avoid, I knew they would utterly ruin it
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Jul 14, 2024
Nice article - interesting that no one ever went back to fully rewatch their first drama.
I haven't rewatched My Princess, but of the just over 100 Dramas I watched in 2013 after that one, I've rewtached 22 of them: TW - In Time With You 4 times, They Kiss Again 3 times; Korea - Capital Scandal, Queen In Hyun's Man, I Hear Your Voice and Coffee Prince 3 times each and Goong NEARLY 3 times. I gave up on Goong on my most recent rewatch about 80% done. Then here's a bunch that I've watched twice
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Replying to Nijaka Jul 14, 2024
My first drama was the Twdrama "Mars". It was 2005 or 2006, I had just started uni and was on my first semester…
Yay, another fan of MARS. And Kimi Wa Petto is so quintessentially Japanese. I've avoided all the remakes because the original was so unique
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Replying to RAMking Jul 14, 2024
My first,Korean drama: IOTNBOCdrama: LOVE O2OTaiwanese drama: Back to 1989 Thailand: Hua Hai Sila ( My first and…
Back to 1989 was a lovely Drama. I'm currently watching my first Thai Drama, Full House, and I think that iy will also be my last πŸ˜€
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Replying to chibi xtina Jul 14, 2024
My first one was definitely Hana Kimi (the jdrama) and my second was Mars (twdrama). I was big into shoujo mangas…
LOVE Mars! Great to se that TW classic getting a mention
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Replying to fiflydramalover Jul 13, 2024
This was so cute. Got some nostalgia feels from some of the writers. 480p and 360p fansub with no legal ways to…
For me, Pasta has a very special place in my Drama watching history: The very first Drama I EVER dropped. Nine full episodes where every character except oe only ever seemed to have one line "Yes Chef!" was enough for me. πŸ˜‚

Cooking is also VERY prominent in Dae Jang Geum. I absolutely REFUSE to use the name MDL gives it because Dae Jang Geum was a real historical person and the Drama is all about her, so naming it after her makes sense. Plus, it remains a VERY, VERY rare KDrama for having a FEMALE GENIUS lead. That made putting up with 6000 hours of cooking classes in the Drama worthwhile. :)
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Replying to KSuuh Jul 13, 2024
OMG the memories... Back in 2010, the 13yo me watching Devil Beside You in 360p at a random fansub with english…
As afan of Mike He, if you haven't already, do check out Imperfect Us, he's very good in that. VERY different from his early stuff of course, but as a fan of Ariel Lin, I enjoyed seeing the two of them together again after Love Contract
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