It’s art, there really is no “objective” good or bad. Most people on MDL who say things like bad acting…
If I could, I would have upvoted your post 1000 times for its opening. The concepts of "subjective" and "objective" sadly sail right over the head of so many MDL users. The War and Peace length diatribe at the the top of this thread is a great example. That user always writes incredibly long rants about shows they don't lik, which is of course absolutely fine and totally their right. But they invariably open with a disclaimer that what follows is subjective then proceed to write their entire diss in terms of objective assesment. Before wrapping with the same stock "subjective" disclaimer. It's also curious that their 'praise' reviews are MUCH shorter. Subjectively, I find that, très drôle.
Congrats, a really interesting article that presents different points of view, even generational ones, on the…
Damo = DAEBAK! The first K Drama I ever saw where they LITERALLY showed the ending at the very beginning. She totally owned King2Hearst too, she was one of the main reasons I watched that one twice
Agreed! JDramas fit my tastes much more than most K Dramas. I drop fewer of them and they have much higher average…
It's very much a matter of personal taste, but as I said the "roads less travelled" article linked above, it would be nice if people would at least TRY them out for themselves, to see if they do fit or not
As an Indian , majority of the india would watch hollywood stuff untill early 2000 with a sprinkle of japanese…
I spent 2000-2013 building my collection of Indian (mostly Hindi) films. I still have the 300 or so I collected back then on DVDs, even some VCDs - hence my username (more polite than ullu da pattha at any rate😁 )
A very useful article, thank you! I haven't started all of the Dramas in this list, but have started most, and have have dropped efery single one I started. So thanks tou your article I now know that if either or both of these writers are involved in a C Drama it almost certainly will not fit my taste. Much obliged!
All these dramas brought back so many memories OMGGGGGI have literally watched all of them.GOOD OLD DAYS!And also…
Agreed! JDramas fit my tastes much more than most K Dramas. I drop fewer of them and they have much higher average score for me - 7.25 versus 6.52 for KDramas
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A truly FASCINATING list! I really struggled to even FIND 3 shows on the list I had finished. Avoided many, dropped more, absolutely HATED several of them. Thanks for a fun exercise
I have only just started this Drama, and don't know if I'll finish it, but one piece of your review did leave me almost literally laughing out loud. You said "the acting was also overly dramatic." - Coming from someone who's written glowing praise of makjang Dramas, in which overacting is an absolute must, I found that very amusing. Shades of Walt Whitman's famous line about containing multitudes.
I suspect that my views on this particular Drama may very well end up quite similar to yours, but seeing the number of Dramas you've praised and raved about (and for which your reviews are generally MUCH shorter than those you diss) and that I've dropped, means I've found a fairly reliable barometer: If you REALLY like a Drama, it's very likely I really won't. So, thank you!
The sad thing about this is both how common and persistent the problem is AND how articles like this focus on the actors only. The production crews work MUCH longer hours in much more difficult conditions and they haven't been paid either. But because they're not actors, their plight only merits one line.
An interesting take. I had serious issues with QoT, and really enjoyed CLOY, but I don't see QoT as any kind of CLOY wannabe/clone, which appears to be the fixation driving your piece. You seem to have decided that it was an attempt to replicate CLOY, and built your entire article as an attempt to make that point. I see no evidence of that, but do agree with several of your criticisms of the show.
One criticism I cannot agree with is your rather whiny complaint about the lack of skinship between the leads. To use skinship as a measure of romance is simplistic and unnecessarily limiting. There have been many great romance Dramas from Korea and Japan with little or no skinship. and the romance in this one was the one part of the Drama that DID work, imo. Since you apparently MUST HAVE skinship in a romance Drama, I strongly advise you to avoid the excellent "History of a Salaryman", a romance in which the leads never kiss.
The other problem I have with your review is that you repeatedly insist the story never explains why they drifted apart, when in fact it referred to the trigger point often and quite explictly, albeint not in words. There were many, many scenes that made it clear that the critical fracture point was the miscarriage. Perhaps you missed it because there was no line of dialogue that said "we drifted apart because of the miscarriage", but the point (one firmly grounded in real life) was made repeatedly.
I only found out about this from Google Tanslate's amusing job on Zhou Yu Tong's Mandarin wikipedia page. It said she was in a drama called "half-cooked men and women" and so of course I copied and pasted the hanzi name here. VERY happy to have found another of hers, and having Tian Xi Wei as lead is nice bonus
Interesting network. I've only watched a handful from TV Chosun, going all the way back to Operation Proposal. Thios one has the potential to be a win for them, from my pov
Main character has the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old. FL deserves much better.
Definitely agree! says at one point "the most important thing in a long-distance relationship is trust. Let's not ever keep secrets" and then repeatedly tells the FL NOTHING about stuff going on his life, like when he loses his brother or nearly gets injured in the blast and yet AfTER that he's thumping his fist on a door demanding to know why she didn't tell him the company she's running is in trouble. VERY disappointing after a promising start.
I've just dragged my way to the end of this and LOVE YOUR review. It's 1000% on point. The first half was deliberate, contemplative, the scond half just SLOW, and pointlessly so. I was thinking it might have been a solid 7.5/8 after the first half, but ended up giving it just 6, for the reasons you outlined so very well
I suspect that my views on this particular Drama may very well end up quite similar to yours, but seeing the number of Dramas you've praised and raved about (and for which your reviews are generally MUCH shorter than those you diss) and that I've dropped, means I've found a fairly reliable barometer: If you REALLY like a Drama, it's very likely I really won't. So, thank you!
One criticism I cannot agree with is your rather whiny complaint about the lack of skinship between the leads. To use skinship as a measure of romance is simplistic and unnecessarily limiting. There have been many great romance Dramas from Korea and Japan with little or no skinship. and the romance in this one was the one part of the Drama that DID work, imo. Since you apparently MUST HAVE skinship in a romance Drama, I strongly advise you to avoid the excellent "History of a Salaryman", a romance in which the leads never kiss.
The other problem I have with your review is that you repeatedly insist the story never explains why they drifted apart, when in fact it referred to the trigger point often and quite explictly, albeint not in words. There were many, many scenes that made it clear that the critical fracture point was the miscarriage. Perhaps you missed it because there was no line of dialogue that said "we drifted apart because of the miscarriage", but the point (one firmly grounded in real life) was made repeatedly.