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"my pretense" ? Now you're just being openly disengenous to hold on to your point.

kisskh synopsis Quoted below:
"""Wayo Panitchayasawad is a freshman at a university that is also attended by his long-time secret love"""
"""Their relationship starts quite rough since Pha seems to pick on Yo, but things change."""

The synopsis does not contradict with what I said because it details the show is about a boy who has been secretly in love with someone for a long time but only specifies that the object of his affections is picking on him - thereby suggesting a one sidedness in this love because it says, "but things change", which implies that Pha goes from "picking on him" to returning his affections, implying that that was not the case before. So you are wrong because the synopsis is under the same pretense in favor of not revealing the shows twist. None of this needed to be spelled out.

Actually, it was unwarranted. The information cannot be misleading because before the narrative reveals it's twist in gradation, that was the pretense of the show.

Why should i reveal the main twist in my recommendation?

You too placed your comment as a spoiler for the same.

However, you're free to pat yourself on the back for that unwarranted retort.

Eng Sub Hack

Step 1 - Play this link on your latop/desktop it has Chinese Subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZSRVP6YN7w

Step 2 - Take out your phone, open Google Translate and open it's live camera translation feature

step 3 - k watch the show through google translate's preview screen - The subs will translate instantly with a 2 sec delay , if not a quick pause will give it time to process, you should keep one finger on the pause button

Can't believe how easy this was.

On the first episode and I already know I'm watching an engaging classic.

The characters are wonderfully contemplative & innocent and it's fittingly set in this cozy beachside town, a place for new beginnings. This is a perfectly paced ride that shows some intriguing characters come of age, make friends & fall in love.

The director & writer know exactly what they're doing with this BL, this is a well crafted comfort watch. Perfect for a sunday you don't want to waste away.

The atmosphere of this movie is cozy - musicians crammed into a room everyday practicing under the meanest new instructor & then hitting the local pub for chats later - thought the film set the ideal scene for refreshing and engaging BL about a cold hearted instructor falling for the four eyed cutie - but where they went with this wonderful set up is surprising - all of a sudden BAMN the show takes the rug from beneath you and turns this into a story I don't think most can engage or empathize with.

I strangely don't regret watching yet but feel very disappointed because you can clearly see what narratively should have happened because the premise in the start is so warm & engaging. You want to see the bandmates bond at the pub, you want to see the cold instructor warm up to the disappointing orchestra & you want to see the ML struggle with his feelings for meanest man he ever met - but after setting that up , the writers bring rape into the story which felt unnecessary & strange. This was supposed to be warm but just became wrong - you'll find yourself asking "why is the story going here ... why ... who wants to see this happen?"

this is a 4.5 that I do not regret watching becuase I just loved the set up so much. This could have been excellent without using rape as the conflict - the characters are so different, that dynamic would have provided enough conflict.

yeah exactly.if a pairing is working with the audiences the worst thing you can do is give them unearned happy ending of sorts .. their story warranted a lot more time to unfold. It's like they've robed us of all the good bits and gone to the finale phase of their relationship.

Episode 11 - There is a disconnect between ep 10 & 11, which doesn't make sense because it was shot before the hiatus.

EP 10 ends with Mark clinging on to Owen & pleading to join his night out plans becuase he just got dumped & needs his company to heal. Ep 11 shows us him hanging with his friends but no attempt is made to show he's nursing his wounds from being dumped at all.

Mark doesn't even mention the girl's name or think of her, Mark swiftly becomes fixated on being jealous - we don't see him at least thinking of his girl once before he transitions towards jealousy . This could have easily been fixed.

There should have been at least one line of dialogue saying "I've just been dumped & Owen is so cruel, he's ignoring me when I'm in need ... i have no one to talk to ... i thought we'd become friends.... I hate this foreign friend of his, he's grabbing all his attention .... no ones talking to me ... all I can do is eat" ... and from here his thoughts gradually could have become fixated on being frustrated with this foreign friend.

Instead we got what looked like a guy who appears too attached to Owen suddenly , we got a guy who looked like he joined the hang out for the sole purpose of being close to Owen as though his romantic interest was established,. Also, not even Owen mentions him being dumped when Mark says he wanted to talk to him when they were going to leave. Owen knows why Mark joined him, there should have been another line of dialogue here about consoling Mark or something about his being dumped. Don't get why they just forgot about what got them there & just switched gears like that.

This is prolly what confused most viewers, because this skipping of context makes it seem as though Mark's romantic or sexual interest has been suddenly established. Everyones asking "since when did Mark start liking him" because it felt like we missed an episode.

Ideally Mark's realization of his attraction should have occured by the end of episode 12, not 11. The pacing was very off here. We need to see mark struggle & pine a little more before the realization hits him. The lack of proper continuity & pacing of the story is what made this not as satisfying.ALthough I still love it, but you know what I mean,

it's airing 6pm Taipei time right? so 1 or 2 hrs till it's online right? Why does the countdown say 5 hours?

I hope the BL couple have longer scenes. We had no issues with bingeing on their cut scenes coz we watched them all put together - but now that we'll follow this episode by episode their screen time will make a huge difference - imagine waiting every week for a 3-5 min scene for the BL couple - it will feel pointless.

There should be at least 12-15mins screen time per episode for BL, that sounds about right to me. I don't know why but I feel this enthusiastic fanbase of the show exists because of the BL pairing - is it true? BL pairings are more valued becuase how rare they are and this was so delightfully done.

"we have to settle for subtlety when Daon and Tae's journey was VERY up front and in your face. I do feel like we were cheated"

THIS! We Were! It really feels like a huge slab of the story is missing. I need more of Tae's point of view & all those answers.

But sometimes i think the writers did this to play around with the genre & tropes in love triangles - i mean a love triangle has never kept me this engaged before. It's strange, From ep1 you know this show is designed to get Shin & Tae together, Daon shouldn't threaten us and his character shouldn't put us on edge but it's because of how little they did show us of Tae's journey towards Shin, the showmakers made it possible to tease the audience enough to make it a very compelling love triangle.

However, having said that, that's no reason to leave giant blanks in the story. Sure, keep the audience on edge for the whole run but reward us at the end of this at least- I genuinely believed ep 16 would feature a flashback charting Tae's journey towards Shin - the writers def cheated on giving us a satisfying ending. it's sad becuase everything else about the closing episode was satisfying. They squeezed some great moments in there.

NamGoong would have been a very compelling love rival, more than the actor playing Daon, he even looks better than Daon. He could easily play the popular charismatic flirty guy and it would contrast well with Shin Woo's character. The show chose to make it a shy boy Shin v/s Perfect straight A student Daon - Namgoong vs Shin would have been an even more thrilling rivalry.

max 5 thousand plus people watched this live. Is this a good number? Are the producers satisfied with the following & viewership of the show - a second season would seem likely???

Nam & Daon wearing same outfits as the LIVE broadcast here - was this shot on the same day? Shin Woo is playing the most with his styling of all of them, he's so different from his onscreen character.

I think I might understand what you mean there - Tae Gyung never does feel as grounded or as a real person as Shin Woo comes across - Tae is operating on a certain level you could say and it doesn't go below the surface - you never end up feeling for him or connecting with him. When Shin Woo is torn in side & is in pain, those scenes hit hard and you feel sorry for him but with Tae, even when he faced heartbreak, it's a bit flat, you feel nothing.

I think the character of Tae is supposed to be blunt and sort emotionally disconnected type - almost like he's on the spectrum of aspergers, maybe. He's supposed to be not exactly normal - for example, he isn't the slightest bit affected by being outed as gay in the picture scandal - it's a bit strange right.

Also, we know he says he doesn't need friends hence he's not made any till he's in 11th grade - so I think the writers did want us to know that this person's wiring is very different from the average person, he thinks very differently, what people say about him doesn't matter at all because he processes his experiences so logically without emotion almost. The actor did deliver on that aspect very well but he didn't do any more than that though. The actor playing Tae didn't make us exactly care about what he feels.

So, I would blame his acting as you feel a distance with him somehow throughout the show, we somehow know and care & feel closer to Shin Woo more than we feel to Tae and that's because of the choices the actor playing Tae made in his performance. Additionally, the storyline didn't help either because what Shin Woo is going through with regards to heartbreak is a way more trying situation than what Tae is going through with Daon.

no no not an essay - this show warrants this type of detail & commentary. A BL fan will love writing & reading this - no worries hehe. I am SO EXACTLY on the same page with EVERYTHING you said, the bit about the rebound especially rings true with me.

Did he only like him because he took care of him? thats what it looked like and that's a terrible message & closing for a triangle. And if it wasn't the case (which i don't think the writers wanted us to take that perspective) then they should have SHOWED the depth of emotions Tae has for Shin all along, and show it as clearly as they spelled everything out to us about how much he crushed hard on Daon. Becuase without that it looks like Shin liked Daon but just chose Shin Woo becuase he was .. just there.

But there are few things things (technicalities maybe) the writers did that could save them from being sued over this hehe. Like remember ShinTae's first bit of proper dialogue in ep 16 as they walked back home? The subject of their conversation and their dynamic was trying to tell us something.

Tae asks whether he wore a flower on his hair because he knew Tae said it looked cute & when Shin denies this, tae says he knows he did it becuase of that, he said something to the affect of I always know I'm right about you but you always deny it - to which Shin says "then why do you ask?"

I took this scene to mean many things. One, it pretty clearly implies that Tae has always been so keyed into Shin's moods & motivations & feelings. He's always busy reading the very quiet Shin Woo's every move. This speaks of a connection he feels with him, that actually began very early on. I say early on becuase tae continues this conversation by bringing up the first he asked him do your ears always turn this red and tae reminds Shin that his answer to the question was "I really hate you". Guess this shows even then, in the second episode, Tae might have not believed Shin Woo's statement when Shin said that - either this or it means that Shin not liking him meant SO MUCH that he still recollects it word to word.

Go back to the scene when SHin first said "i really hate you", tae now left alone in the rooms tells himself "that jerk always tells me he hates me and i don't know why it's making me so mad". This shows how much it bothered him what Shin thought of him since the beginning - what he thought mattered way too much to tae - enough to follow him around all the way to the boys toilet & pulling up his collar when he's done with Shin always going back to hating him.

Add all of this and the fact Tae only reserved all his flirting for Shin, whether he was aware of it or not. The "i don't know why i like teasing him, the playfulness he had around him and all their interactions once they grew closer have had levels of flirtations that Shin-Daon felt like siblings in comparison, with stale straightforward doting on one side & admiration on the other. The walk back home again showed some obvious flirting & a closeness that felt more like a couple than Daon-Tae ever did - moments like where Shin says "you promised that you would pretend to not notice my red ears".

Another thing about the walking him scene that could save the writer's ass in court is the keychain Tae gifted to Shin Woo - implying his decision to stick with Shin wasn't a spur of the moment thing - he'd developed feelings & felt his love for him long before this moment, he was already committed before Daon came back.

Wow, thanks, you've mentioned lots of titles for me to work with - appreciate this ..
a lot. Also, thanks for the list - absolute goldmine. plus the comments make all the difference ...Yay!

I was fine for a day or two, but what I call a post-BL-low hit me today after I saw the last BTS video for Light On Me - so will be on a hunt now for the next Bl world to dive into. So far His, Dark Blue and Moonlight & Once In Memory, & Bishonen are speaking to me.

i seriously thought thethe daon focus would lessen towards the second half of the run at least - but it never happened - Daon giving Shin permission to chase Tae should hv at least been the start off point of the Shin woo era of the show coz daon needs to work out a lot of stuff, and its a lot. But they brought Daon out of the shadows in ep 15 to be a love rival, annoyed the hell out of us and then in 16 he's like - yeah, i need to go back and think and reflect some more. it was seriously wasting the screen time for Shin tae.

Thanks. the writing is very thorough and careful for such a light genre you could say. It was very obvious how the writers choose to be vague. Look at their first conversation after Tae holds Shin's hand and chooses him. They're walking back home and the dialogue, sort of doesn't deliberately connect.

One second they're talking about Why Shin Woo wore the flower in his hair & Tae says I know I'm right, you wore it becuase i said it looked cute. Shin Woo says if you know then why do you ask -
But then BAMN -
Tae says: "You remember when caught me as a a snail bride what you said to me when i asked you why your ears turn red, you said you really hated me"
Shin Woo " I didn't say that, i said "I hate you",
Tae: thats the same thing
and then the conversation ends with something like - "I like your honest ears"

It's like a riddle. Were they trying to say something there. The writing, every little detail and turn is VERY deliberate in the show. I took this convo to mean, he knew Shin had a soft corner for him somehow and he liked it but didn't like he didn't admit it - Shin hating him made him mad he would tell himself - I guess him getting mad, these strong emotions and need to be liked was meant to mean something. Maybe that's the real start of Tae's journey of loving the guy, so that aggressive pursit for friendhsip was basically tracking Tae's side of the love story I guess. I wish the show was less vague about this and did a good flashback like they did for Shin's text messages.

nothing compares well to this.

i think this a very strong combo of layered & detailed plotting of a cute love story, with good characters.

There are of course other GOOD BLs but they don't check the same boxes.

the Thai ones, their writing is a bit too thin - like filler scenes for instance- you don't have ANY filler dialogue or filler scene in Light on Me - it's always moving, dropping story hints- every bit is worth watching. I've been watching DOn't Say No (2021) and gosh, you just cannot care about what they're talking about most of the time - like one of the characters was talking about his dad and the dialogue was so generic and half assed, like the writers didn't care to craft a REAL enough character with a compelling backstory.

For good quality shows, I think your best bet is to find something Taiwanese like We Best Love S1 & 2, or Korean like Where your Eyes LInger, or You Make me Dance or Japanese like Cherry Magic or Seven Days S1 & 2.

you've prolly watched it all. But i do think those are the few shows with good attention to writing, keeping to a good standard. However, I don't think there are any light love dramas that are so well plotted and written like this one.

Usually good edge-of-your seat type of writing is reserved for high bro stuff or different genres altogether, where as Light On Me, a cute simple high school romance was handled so well. Like nothing keeps you guessing like LOM. No other light high school BL romance is this well executed.

Don't u think the show didn't show enough how and when and why he fell for Shin Woo - i see all the hints and clues - Shintae shipper myself, I have tracked and seen all the clues that he loves him from the start but I wish they were more explicit in saying how, why, when he started loving him.

i feel they owe us a good flashback montage showing and proving that Tae loves Shin as deeply as Shin was pining was Tae - we didn't get evidence of that.

What makes you think that Tae loves Shin as much as SHin loves him ? Maybe i missed some hints.