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I think Shison Jun's visual here is PEAK! And also in the other drama 'Fermat no Ryori'. Blonde hair suits him very well.

For real. The fact they’re desperately trying to force their own interpretation about the drama means the drama itself failed to convey/convince the viewers

True. Also the fact that Makiko did consult with Keisuke about their son’s shoplifting case and he came from another town to be there and helped them. Can anyone blame him for rushing to his pregnant wife because her water broke? Yeah he promised Masaki to stay with him but it was emergency and she was alone 🙄

There’s also time when Keisuke told Masaki ‘I’ll protect you.” Then Masaki asked, “What about mom?” And he couldn’t answer, until Junichi quickly responded, “Don’t worry. Everything will be alright.”

Is that scene supposed to make Junichi look cool?” How can he be so sure everything is gonna be fine? How is he supposed to protect Makiko in that situation?

I am those who believe we shouldn’t tell lies to children even if it’s white lies. Maybe he just wanted to assure the kid, but in the end she wasn’t fine because she KILLED a person, and she had to go to jail. Or what? Was he going to cover up her crime so she doesn’t go to jail, just like Naoto did?

So yeah, it might sound cool and kind but tbh it’s pretty irresponsible answer.

After watching ep9, that blonde long haired lackey low key pissed me off. I thought he was in the same side as Fuyuhashi (the Orphanage ‘family’). But he sold Fuyuhashi twice already. Worst he’s acting like he had no choice but to obey Goroku and didn’t think the consequences will be fatal to Fuyuhashi. Is he really dumb or he’s just feigning ignorance ☹️

Left me wondering, what was the moral message of this story? 😑

Plot armor is so thick, not only Makiko’s crime didn’t affect her son going to his chosen school (as per her original motive), she also attained new boyfriend and father figure to her son. This is exactly what they say, “Killing two birds with one stone.”

I feel the writer deliberately write Keisuke as a loser to make Junichi look good. But it’s a bit unrealistic

I agree. Takeuchi Ryoma’s acting was good but I guess chemistry isn’t something you can fake.

I didn’t underestimate her. She knew and didn’t say anything doesn’t equal it’s okay for him to treat her the way he did. To be honest I wished Hiromi would just dump his ass right away, but the difference between him and her is that she actually loved him, so she stayed, hoping that someday he’ll choose her and love her back. But he didn’t.
When talking about the future instead of talking about their future together, he mentioned another woman’s name and how he wanna support her. What do you think she should have done, clinging to him? Crying to him, begging him not to go and leave her? You making it sound like it was her free choice to leave him, but does she even have a choice? Junichi practically telling her, “Read the room and leave”. He didn’t have the guts to properly ends things with her, nor say that he actually loves another woman. He lets the girl do all the work. Junichi is a coward through and through.

You are romanticizing and simplifying it too much.

“It’s better to be honest so both can move on….”
It sounds nice when you frame it that way. But it’s an excuse highly convenient for Junichi and Makiko only, because they can get what they want and be together. Meanwhile, what about Hiromi? Her heart is broken and had to leave the house.

“Remember the drama setup gf of Junichi only 25 years old (still very young to find someone really love her)…”
I don’t understand why age or age gap matter here. Junichi x Hiromi relationship didn’t work out not because of their age gap, nor Hiromi being too young. She’s not a minor, she’s already 25, a working adult, and from what I’ve seen, she behaves and acts way more mature than the other adults in this series.

I’m not questioning about how much Junichi loves Makiko, or how he doesn’t love Hiromi. Even if a break up is inevitable, there is a whole lot better way to end a relationship. My problem with Junichi lies in the way he treats his girlfriend, and the way and timing he broke up with her.

He used their planned date to play catch-ball with his crush’s son, he called her to babysit his crush’s son, he called her to make bento for his crush’s family. Only at times like this he acts like they are in a relationship and made her do what a girlfriend would do. He doesn’t want to reciprocate her feelings, but still uses her when it’s convenient. And when asked about the future, he broke up with her so nonchalantly. Funny how he broke up with her AFTER he used her well and freed from guilt and nightmares. She who has been by his side when he’s having nightmares and PTSD and made him feel at ease and accepted. But all that means nothing, because…. He just doesn’t love her? The audacity.

It’s not only lack of love, but also lack of respect, gratitude, and remorse that infuriates me.

The way he dumped the nurse too was horrible. If the fact that Masaki shoplifted and that he is a son of a murderer didn’t stop Masaki from getting accepted to his chosen school, then Makiko became a criminal for nothing 🤷🏻‍♀️

Many of Makiko’s interactions with the three childhood friends look like flirting or leading in my eyes. It would’ve been better twist if she actually did it on purpose to manipulate them.

Keisuke with his inferior complex is written to be as lame as possible to show how Junichi could be better husband and father material.

As for Naoto. He cares about Makiko so much he took the blame for the killing, but didn’t care about the consequences to his family. It must have been shocking to know that after all he has done for her, Makiko ended up turning herself not because she’s overwhelmed by guilt but for another man, yes, Junichi’s sake.

Hiromi, the poor girlfriend who is almost like AI robot, giving Junichi solution and validation and even when he dumps her, she’s so nonchalant and accept it right away with big smile.

Junichi, mixing his private and professional matters, was so cool when was a kid that all three of them admired him, but as an adult, he’s just a shitty cop and shitty boyfriend.

Something about all the characters giving me irks it’s hard to like them.

I feel bad about Makiko’s past but Junichi x Makiko’s love story feels too forced. It’s like they are only looking at the after-image of their feelings and memories from the past, how they fell in love when they were kids, but what about now? Are they falling for the present, adult version of each others? How do they fall in love again? How much do they know about each other currently? It’ like it’s still a continuation from their unfinished love story from 23 years ago, but thinking about how some adults still couldn’t move on from a crush from when they were kids makes me laugh

I share your sentiment. I want to know how you feel about the last episode, including how Junichi ends things with his girlfriend. Hints: It’s bullsh1t

He let her takes care of Masaki when the rest of them talking to Makiko (when Makiko is about to turn herself in).
He let her prepares dishes for Masaki and Keisuke while Makiko being held in police station.
He told her he felt at ease and accepted being with her but when asked about the future, he mentioned another woman’s name and told her he wants to be there to support Makiko.
He only uses her when it’s convenient but didn’t want to commit and disposed her once he got what he wants. What a jerk

This drama is just pretending to be some deep human mystery romance drama, but it’s not, it’s superficial at most: the story and the characters….

Especially the romance department. I can’t believe the moment Tobina Junichi found out that he didn’t kill anyone and freed from guilt and when asked by his girlfriend to discuss about their future, he just so casually dumped her? Seriously?? First thing first waking up in the morning, still on the bed, is that something you’d say? Almost as easy as asking, “What’s breakfast for today?” What an a55hole 🤬
There is no remorse, no apology, no thanks… He said he felt at peace, he felt accepted… He kept blabbering about himself. He might not love her, but he also didn’t care about her feelings at all, didn’t respect her, didn’t appreciate her.

I think it would have been better if after the case from 23 years ago get resolved, Junichi who is freed from guilt finally able to acknowledge his feelings towards Makiko in the past, but he chose to move on and start fresh with Hiromi, who has always been by his side and supporting him.
Or if we choose no romance development, he can just be single, sort his feelings and doing his best as a cop, not because out of guilt but this time, for justice. Or if too cliche, he can just quit and change job because, to be honest, Junichi is really shitty at being a cop.

What I mean is, anything but Junichi get together with Makiko, because their love story just feels so forced. It’s like every characters are just written to make the two leads shine, like how popular Makiko is because 3 guys are going miles to protect her and 1 guy tried to get to her pants.

This drama is not romantic whatsover.

If you are like me who think the ending is a total joke, and need to release some stress after watching the ridiculous final episode, leave a comment.

Oh actually... Why do you think the real Gido lied that he stole the money, knowing he'll die? Did he do it to save Ichika? Why? Or to save his wife? How?

I know right! It's so fucking sad! I feel so bad to the original Ichika T^T Then Natsumi who is witnessing everyone she's involved with getting hurt T^T Then Gido, Mayu, Machi, Fuyuhashi, etc... Literally everyone is losing something important to them.
I already had a feeling Goroku is behind all of this. Because usually in the drama, the most unexpected one is the real culprit. And who would have thought someone would steal money from their own company? Damn he's rotten to the core!
Now the only mystery left for me is who the spy among the police. I'm betting my money it's Gido's boss.

OMG! Episode 8 is so saaaad! T^T