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Kim Woo Jung was outstanding in this, Kim Do Hoon was so loveable and great. Lena actress was a great new addition and very pretty (although her MDL picture is awful, why does MDL always do this?). Jun Seo (the character) was the worst ever, faithful to no one, if he had helped Jae Oh at the right time (since he has the brains and Jae Oh the muscles), they could have taked down Moon Psychopath.

I'll just write the Season 2 since kdramas rarely get a sequel and if they do it's a million years later:

The Hadere CEO lives in fear that Ah Jin will come up like a ghost. He gets a photo in the mail, of an ultrasound. The family of the first wife that he didn't manage to kill has infiltrated his household. Slowly he starts having nightmares and does things without remembering. He can't understand what is happening. One day, during one of his conferences, he see's what looks like his first wife and Ah Jin sitting in the stands. Under the influence of the same drugs he tries to kill the wives (dressed as brides). He screams that he already killed his first wife and now he just needs to finish off the second.

Mass people witness and record his words and actions and spread them. Media reports the videos Jae Oh "died" for, along with testimony from other victims, for and spin a new true story where Moon CEO was a psycopath Bluebeard responsible for countless deaths. He is institutionalized and the family members of his victims are making sure to give him the drugs and torture to make him stay permanently incapicitated. They end up lobotomizing him.

Ah Jin appears alive and well with a new bodyguard, Mr. Choi. She has quietly inherited the Hadere assets but sells most of it off. She gives Jae Oh's brother enough money to never have to worry again and to enjoy life and study his passion. And the same of In-gang's brother.

She lives in a beautiful seaside home in a small town. A small child plays with her on the beach. Mr Choi is teaching them how to swim. Other kids play by the seaside with their families and wave hello to the little family, calling them by different names.

Who is the father? Jae Oh (maybe he survives the drop into the container as someone is there to help him, like his boss? he was the only one who truly loved her). Maybe we don't need to know.

Ah Jin (now living as renamed herself) says, "Until I had a child, I didn't know what love was or how easy it was to love a child wholeheartedly, to give up everything. I felt great sorrow first at what my parents did to me. And at what I did to others' children. Now I would raise this human with all the love and without the fear that they will ever be discarded."

The end.

Kim Woo Jung was outstanding in this, Kim Do Hoon was so loveable and great. Lena actress was a great new addition and very pretty (although her MDL picture is awful, why does MDL always do this?).

I'll just write the post-script ending:
The Hadere CEO lives in fear that Ah Jin will come up like a ghost. He gets a photo in the mail, of an ultrasound. Slowly he starts having nightmares and does things without remembering. He can't understand what is happening. One day, during one of his conferences, he see's what looks like his first wife and Ah Jin sitting in the stands. Under the influence of the same drugs he tries to kill the wives (dressed as brides). He screams that he already killed his first wife and now he just needs to finish off the second.

Mass people witness and record his words and actions and spread them. Media reports the videos Jae Oh died for and spin a new story where Moon CEO was a psycopath Bluebeard responsible for countless deaths. He is institutionalized and the family members of the first wife, who infilitrated his home as well, are making sure to give him the drugs and torture to make him stay permanently incapicitated. They end up lobotomizing him.

Ah Jin appears alive and well with a new bodyguard, Mr. Choi. She has quietly inherited the Hadere assets but sells most of it off. She gives Jae Oh's brother enough money to never have to worry again and to enjoy life and study his passion. And the same of In-gang's brother.

She lives in a beautiful seaside home in a small town. A small child plays with her on the beach. Mr Choi is teaching them how to swim. Other kids play by the seaside with their families and wave hello to the little family, calling them by different names.

Who is the father? Jae Oh, Jun Seo or ???

Ah Jin (now living as renamed herself) says, "Until I had a child, I didn't know what love was or how easy it was to love a child wholeheartedly, to give up everything. I felt great sorrow first at what my parents did to me. And at what I did to others children. Now I would raise this human with all the love and without the fear that they will be discarded."

The end.

The end.

I would say Jun Seo was her most complicated relationship, resentment that she was almost drowned and thrown out and abused by his mom but also he did try to stand by her half the time. He wrote the novel and gained fame through he story, he got the money from rich non bio grandpa because she kept quiet even though with the mom's abuse she could have come clean and asked grandpa for a payout.

I would agree that the writer struggled at certain points. Ah Jin is not a brilliant schemer or she would have made better plans in every situation. She is a desperate person responding to people who keep stepping on her neck and she even warns them to leave her alone. She dreamed of Jun Seo after almost dying but realized it wasn't him and then he didn't come help her. It would be better for he to replace Moon (and I hated his character so much, all powerful CEO that no one can stop, ok let her find another all powerful CEO and make them fight for her like every other webtoon does at the most cliche minimum).

Jae Oh made that plan himself because he loved her and didn't seem to have much purpose without her and wanted her to be able to live. The only unsatisfying thing to me is I didn't see her ruin that psychopath CEO. Her only innocent victim was Mr. Choi and he forgave her genuinely.

Jun Seo the worst dumba** in the planet. He knew Jae Oh is not the brains, he could have come up with a plan that didn't require his self-sacrifice but he ignored everything. He betrayed everyone around him from the first girl, to Lena, to Jae Oh and to Ah Jin. He stood for nothing by exposing her, wasn't the CEO a thousand times worse but he couldn't expose him? CEO wanted to break her and use her like a doll. Jun Seo wanted her to be perfect and his only. Jae Oh wanted her to be free so only he loved her truly.

Really wanted a ending with her hands around CEO neck or a bat to his head or anything showing his dead bloody body.

So much love and support, seen her growing up on screen she is a really fine actress and has a one in a billion type beauty.

So many plot holes and mistakes could not be saved simply by the masterful acting.
Song Ho Yeon was the most understandable, tragic character. He just wanted justice for his mom and his father utterly failed at getting his wife justice. His plan was smart and it seems like he was in such pain and depression that he expected and did not fear death at all.

The judge father!! He acts well but he made bad decision after bad decision. He really didn't think that how it could even be a coincidence? He really never tried to get justice for his wife? He had gone through so many criminal cases, he didn't think to get rid of the evidence on his own? His son had a good reason to despise his image, he fell to the dark side so quickly and did worse after worse thing. It seemed like it was all to save his son but if that were the simple case, why not send him abroad? Like it was thrown in our face that The chairman sent his evil rapist murdering son abroad to keep him from getting in trouble, so why didn't the judge think of that?

The chairman!! I see some people trying to empathize with him, like what the eff? He covered up or was directly involved in multiple murders, rape, horrific murder through burning of a grandmother and her five year old grandaughter, and the list goes on and on and on. His whole family were just criminals except for the disabled Eun, like his first wife was probably murdered by him or his second wife. He had unlimited power on his side and he still failed because he kept protecting rather than stopping his son, wife, and himself from doing more evil.

I only felt bad for Eun and Song Ho Yeon. Everyone else, including the prosecutor claimed to be doing the right or necessary thing but added fuel to the fire.

I really hope that Nara can have a positive relationship or romance, the last few dramas have been utterly harrowing to watch her get cheated on and harmed. Park Hae Jin was good in The Killing Vote too, hope they have some chemistry.

In this drama she really shows her range as I have seen has as cute, lovely, beautiful, adorable, slightly mischievous and sassy but not to these depths of anger, betrayal, revenge and madness. She really is one of a kind beauty and actress. So much love and hope she has mental health support as this type of role can really affect a person. For example, Heath Ledger was so terribly impacted by the research and role he played as Joker.

From the posts it was clear that Lee Hye Ri thought they were still dating while he was dating others and so that is understandable from her perspective. What an ugly guy, both her and Han So Hee can do better.

Please report gstafford for expressing some truly despicable thoughts including justifying sex with minors and pedophilia as well as exploitation of minors.

As for Kim So Hyun, he deserves the worst and will get it. I hope someone can have a shaman do a 정당성 justice or karma ritual that will utterly destroy him from the inside out. Rotten on the inside should be seen as rotten on the outside. Maybe some of us can get together and fund one together in Korea on our next visit or through family.

KUDOS to Won Bin for being such an upstanding guy who attended Kim Sae Ron's funeral and wept for her. PEACE AND LOVE for Kim Sae Ron and Sulli and who knows countless others harmed by trash evil people.

He behaved in an awful manner to two young women and showed a complete lack of character so let him rot.

Oh thanks for letting me know, the whole time I was like, "What the hell kind of nick name is that?"

Watching this with no previous knowledge and it has been great fun

Oh, I agree that Jun Seo is wrong for her. It's too complicated. His mother tried to drown her or send her to orphanage or kick her out of the house because she figured out the Jun Seo was not the biological heir. Ah Jin was made to suffer for Jun Seo's success. I meant the other guy Kim Jae Oh that always trusts her. The only one she harmed was Mr. Choi and he forgave her, the rest all deserved it because they wouldn't let her breathe.

I agree I sometimes hate this plot because its such a cliche fantasy (and at least in True Beauty they have more nuance where she uses makeup and styling) and so unrealistic but also get why some might like it. I do hate that he ML calls her Mrs Piggy over and over again, its quite cruel and insulting. He has some okay moments as a himbo but overally they just are not a match in terms of even like enjoying spending time together on a date or having things in common. I did like the other actors particularly Blue and Pink and Brown and Goth Girl but they didn't get enough time. I also really like the friends and thought that was a potential realistic exploration of female friendships.

Wookie is underused here (more time with him Noh Young Sik and Eun Bi would have been better to show how they use their different skills to help him). Instead, too much time given to the villains and now the main villain (who is laughable, like a midget with bad hair who can do anything while Wookie is getting beat up constantly) is controlling him to try to get his own dirty work done.

Also to note a disturbing trend in Korean dramas beyond the cartoon villain, is that they show the villain is somehow of "low birth." I keep seeing this and feel like it reeks of some "pure bloods" supremacy and feels disgusting.

I know she is flawed but I hope that she can win against this creepy CEO, chaebol. It is clear he is a Bluebeard type - he traps beautiful women and then breaks them down. She will go into that secret room. I just want her to have a nice life by herself and someone who loves her truly like Kim Jae Oh, or who can be true family to her like grandma. Even Mr. Choi, her and Kim Jae Oh and a halmoni or ahjumma so she can heal and not feel like life is always a battle and she needs to be rescued or rescue herself.

I think we are meant to hate her. But now we also understand why Ah Jin's relationship with Jun Seo is so complex. Jun Seo's mother tried to drown Ah Jin because she figured out that Jun Seo was no the biological heir. The mother later kicked her out and treated her so awfully just to protect him and her own self. Ah Jin and Jun Seo can't be end game, it's too awful between them.

Actually, I agree. There is too much screen time to both the main villain and the secondary villain who keeps beating up women which is just unnecessary to show such violence. I can't wait to see them die and suffer but they have diffused Wookie's role a bit and I don't like that. Also lots of unrealistic things and just uneven. Love Noh YongSik character.

Criminally overrated. This is one of the most hyped dramas on various forums for people who like thrillers\suspense\mystery genre. After watching the first few episodes, I told myself, "It's probably like 10 years old so that's what explains the messiness and over the top coincidence and obviousness. Then I checked MDL and it is from 2021 not 2005 or 2015!!! It is full of cliches, overacting and lack of logic. Dissapointing to say the least.

Various ick points:
- All the characters are one dimensional. They have a job and an alleged interest or hobby but it is meaningless. Magic shows, love of Hitchcock or murder mysteries, taking care of injured pets, being sad, drinking, etc - its there for scenes but not impact for the story .
- Weird "romance" between a high school student an a guy about 8-10 years older. Really reminds me of older Korean dramas that had this kind of predatory nonsense.
- None of the clues or stories behind the murders matter. None of the details make an intricate or meaningful anything.
- It is a pro-eugenics drama. Yes, eugenics the thing that the Nazi's used to commit genocide, that the Americans used to sterilize disabled people, queers, indigenous peoples and Black people. It is really apalling.