It's a sweet drama, I enjoyed it. The actors did a great job, and the scenery was beautiful. The only thing that…
he need time to digest, even if he liked her. He need longer time than common people to process everything. While she is the opposite, she kept bursting into his personal space.
he like calm and quiet, while she and her world is so noisy. they're totally opposite.
You can see him discomfort with her since episode 01.
Could someone please explain what happened in episode 6? After Ju Ho Jin spoke with Sin Jo Seom, he ran after…
Netflix's translation adding more confusion.
in short, 1.) Mu-Hee's insecure feeling threatened with Ji-Seon's news. 2.) Ho-Jin told Mu-Hee that he have move on from Ji-Seon. 3.) Ho-Jin thought that Mu-Hee's feeling to him is not genuine.
Ho-Jin is already moved-on from Ji-Seon. He said it to Mu-Hee, that is why she cried later on, knowing her insecure feeling led her mistaken the situation and blabbering to make things worse.
Ho-Jin already open his heart, and about to move to next chapter with Mu-Hee.
But he thought Mu-Hee's effort is manythings except genuine feeling. He thought her effort is just to regain her pride after previous Ho-Jin's rejection.
He thought her effort is just to satisfy her curiousity about him after his rejection, something like her ego made her did it, not her heart.
While Ho-Jin is really genuine with her, he is just about to close his horror romance with Ji-Seon, just to be played by Mu-Hee.
to make it more complicated between them two, Mu-Hee's language usually contradictive with her meaning, or how she feel. While Ho-Jin is type of person who take words as literal meaning, he can't read emotion underneath it.
both speak same literal language, but different emotional language.
1st : it's you2nd : it's you3rd : it's youall that reasons you said, begin with "i", it's your pov, you…
i agree that they simplify the mental health issue.
This drama have it's own version of DID. i'm not forcing what i thought, but her disorder here is like plot device for story telling.
i add what i saw, and how i interpreted it.
1.) Mu-Hee is never a normal person, she have her disorder passed down from her mom.
Mu-Hee also have obsessive behavior like her mom, that explain why Mu-Hee crazily chase her ex oversea to Japan, when she herself can't even speak Japanese. She did crazy things normal people won't. She throw her dignity to confront her ex, because she have this obssesive thought passed down from her mom.
Mu-Hee is partly crazy. She know it, that is why she grew anxiety what if the world know it?
What if Ho-Jin, the person she like, know she is crazy?
2.) Mu-Hee that we meet, is the mask.
Actual Mu-Hee is that crazy her who have obsessive thought, and doing things impulsively. After her family's accident, she learn how to restrict her self. She learn how to hide her self, that is why there is constant whisper in her mind to runaway, to hide as usual.
3.) Mu-Hee have obsessive thought.
That explain why she chase the chef to Japan. That explain why she shamlessly keep coming to Ho-Jin.
Her mom, have that obsessive thought. The show explained with how her mom use pregnancy to keep her lover, Mu-Hee's dad. When they are family with Mu-Hee, once again Mu-Hee's dad about to leave her again, that is why her mom have that crazy thought : "if i can't have you, let us die together as a family."
4.) Her disorder became worse after sudden rise of popularity, then 2nd trigger when she is affraid that Ho-Jin will know her crazy part then abandon her like everyone else.
After visiting doctor in Japan, Mu-Hee have this constant thought of insecurities, how Ho-Jin will react, if he know her more?
That thought become burden for her, and she is hesitant to tell him. That is when Impulsive Do Rami begin to take over.
When Mu-Hee finally shared that burden to Ho-Jin, her burden is gone, and so is Do Rami.
This drama have it own version of DID. The way i interpreted it, Do Rami gone not because Ho-Jin's care, (maybe some part of it) but Do Rami is manifestation of Mu-Hee's burden.
When the burden is gone, and so is Do Rami. Mu-Hee herself is not cured, because Do Rami is her. Do Rami that we see onscreen is visual storytelling. Do Rami's behavior is part of Mu-Hee.
Mu-Hee's ex, the chef with the pregnant lady, probably have revealed her crazy side, not just her relation with her family. That is why the pregnant lady called Mu-Hee as miserable woman.
That Mu-Hee's part. would you elaborate about Ho-Jin?
it's not a simple delusion. probably you'll like it more when knowing it all.
this is drama version of DID.
the way i saw it, there is two Do Rami that appear on screen. Do Rami the hate comment, and Do Rami the impulsive. Both are related, but appear on different situation because they triggered by different things.
well i can't say further, but would like to know what you thought when everything is revealed.
1st : it's you2nd : it's you3rd : it's youall that reasons you said, begin with "i", it's your pov, you…
yes, that is why i said your personal taste prevent yo u to look deeper.
your disliking prevent you to look deeper. i'm not questioning objectivity, im not talking about right or wrong.
in short. Both characters here are complex, and your comment oversimplify them both. I asked you about Mu-Hee's not as a test, i really like to know more what you thought about her, so maybe i can add what i interpreted.
1st part is about them mistranslating eachother.2nd part is about him learning her language through her past,…
Netflix's translation adding more confusion.
in short, 1.) Ho-Jin thought that Mu-Hee's feeling to him is not genuine. 2.) Ho-Jin told Mu-Hee that he have move on from Ji-Seon.
Ho-Jin is already moved-on from Ji-Seon. He said it to Mu-Hee, that is why she cried later on, knowing her insecure feeling led her mistaken the situation and blabbering to make things worse.
Ho-Jin already open his heart, and about to move to next chapter with Mu-Hee.
But he thought Mu-Hee's effort is manythings except genuine feeling. He thought her effort is just to regain her pride after previous Ho-Jin's rejection.
He thought her effort is just to satisfy her curiousity about him after his rejection, something like her ego made her did it, not her heart.
While Ho-Jin is really genuine with her, he is just about to close his horror romance with Ji-Seon, just to be played by Mu-Hee.
to make it more complicated between them two, Mu-Hee's language usually contradictive with her meaning, or how she feel. While Ho-Jin is type of person who take words as literal meaning, he can't read emotion underneath it.
Once again, both speak same literal language, but different emotional language.
WTF IS SHE DOING IN EPISODE 8. im actually so pissed off right now i thought this was going to be good but the…
1st part is about them mistranslating eachother. 2nd part is about him learning her language through her past, trauma, anxiety, etc. it's like 2 different vibes, but its good storytelling.
both attracted to eachother, both speak same language, but they keep mistranslate it. So us audience saw it as push and pull along the show.
oh and between those 2 part, Ho-Jin begin to speak her language when he agree that they saw "rainbow". Ho-Jin also try to speak her language when he simply threw words to encourage her, rather than explaining scientific things about aurora.
In ep07 they having conversation about their last conversation in Canada (end of ep06 that you questioning?).
end of ep10 is when he is finally able to learn her language.
1st : it's you2nd : it's you3rd : it's youall that reasons you said, begin with "i", it's your pov, you…
your personal taste, 1) "I hated how long the FL chased the ML" 2) "I really don’t like the trope where someone is secretly or unrequitedly in love for years and never does anything about it" prevent you to look deeper.
if you dissect her, she is more than cute or tolerable. if you dissect him, he is more than pathetic.
The first time they meet, they crossing the railtrack together. When they got sepearated, the railtrack is between…
I mean the railtrack after their 1st meeting in Japan. There are 3 railtracks during their 1st meeting. 1st railtrack is about them beginning journey together (move on from previous chapter of their relationship). 2nd railtracks is about them being together (bonding). 3rd is about them on the crosspath (go back to previous, or continue new chapter with new person).
their 2nd meeting is also in Japan, it's when she ask him to the doctor. im sure i saw train and railtrack.
then like you mentioned, one in Canada.
and there is still more of it, i just don't remember.
but i do remember his closing about zombie romance. He met with Ji-Seon in a train to Busan, and he comfortably speak his feeling to her in the past.
They advertise this drama as romance, which it is, but it borderline on a psychological strange concept. This…
the back and forth are necessary, because that is where they lost in translation. (But it does annoying for us, viewer.)
in the end, Ho-Jin able to speak in Mu-Hee's language, eventho Mu-Hee still hard to understand his. Because between them two, Ho-Jin is the one with skillset to dissect and learn new language.
Ho-Jin's confession sentence is confusing, because that reflect his way of thinking, realistic way. But then he use Mu-Hee's language : kiss.
rewatch it, at episode 07. After their heartbreak conversation in episode 06, when Mu Hee visit Ho-Jin's house by writer Kim's invitation.
During conversation between Mu-Hee and Ho-Jin when cooking. Mu-Hee metaphorically use boiling water as early phase of cooking as their current situation : they're not even begin with, it's just started heating.
Then Ho-Jin in literally cooking activities, he shut down the stove, but Mu-Hee once again use it as metaphor for their relation, expect him not to shut their fire (relationship) down, yet.
When Ho-Jin said "it's just water with kelp. There is nothing to it, really". That's how he thought of Mu-Hee's feeling to him (meaningless, nothing serious). Then Mu-Hee annoyed with him, because she is serious, and answered to him in direct word that she kissed him (he mean something to her).
This convo is explaining about each other feeling during their time in Canada, but once again, the filmmaker use indirect language so some of us probably failed to catch what happened with him in Canada.
But yes, that conversation between them at the end of episode 06 is quite confusing.
PS. When Ho-Jin shut down the stove to let kelp cooling before seasoning, it's also metaphorically describe their story later. They need their relationship too cool down before seasoning and finally become delicious meal.
Can someone answer why the fls mother wanted to kill the dad n her kid? I think I missed the part where this was…
FL's dad is about to break their relationship, but FL's mom use pregnancy to keep him. They never have a marriage.
And when they are already a family with Mu-Hee, i think FL's dad is about to leave her again, or their relationship isn't happy one. So her crazy thought is : "if she can't have him, let die together when they still a family".
I guess Mu-Hee have that kind of obsessive thought passed down from her mom.
Can someone explain ep 6? what does ML meant in his conversation with her at the crossroad after he chased after…
Ho-Jin are already moved on from Ji-Seon, he already open his heart and is about to begin new chapter with Mu-Hee. But he thought Mu-Hee's effort is not genuine enough, he thought her effort is just to regain her pride after Ho-Jin's previous rejection.
He thought her effort is manything else except genuine feeling. That hurt him, because he seriously is open his heart for her.
Mu-Hee's word manytimes is contradictive with her feeling (and so is most women), and Ho-Jin is type person whom take everyone word as literal meaning (and so is most men). That is where them two lost in translation.
Ohh, and Ho-Jin is already about to cross that railtrack when in Japan. He is about to move on from Ji-Seon when he met Mu-Hee.
he like calm and quiet, while she and her world is so noisy. they're totally opposite.
You can see him discomfort with her since episode 01.
in short,
1.) Mu-Hee's insecure feeling threatened with Ji-Seon's news.
2.) Ho-Jin told Mu-Hee that he have move on from Ji-Seon.
3.) Ho-Jin thought that Mu-Hee's feeling to him is not genuine.
Ho-Jin is already moved-on from Ji-Seon. He said it to Mu-Hee, that is why she cried later on, knowing her insecure feeling led her mistaken the situation and blabbering to make things worse.
Ho-Jin already open his heart, and about to move to next chapter with Mu-Hee.
But he thought Mu-Hee's effort is manythings except genuine feeling. He thought her effort is just to regain her pride after previous Ho-Jin's rejection.
He thought her effort is just to satisfy her curiousity about him after his rejection, something like her ego made her did it, not her heart.
While Ho-Jin is really genuine with her, he is just about to close his horror romance with Ji-Seon, just to be played by Mu-Hee.
to make it more complicated between them two, Mu-Hee's language usually contradictive with her meaning, or how she feel. While Ho-Jin is type of person who take words as literal meaning, he can't read emotion underneath it.
both speak same literal language, but different emotional language.
This drama have it's own version of DID.
i'm not forcing what i thought, but her disorder here is like plot device for story telling.
i add what i saw, and how i interpreted it.
1.) Mu-Hee is never a normal person, she have her disorder passed down from her mom.
Mu-Hee also have obsessive behavior like her mom, that explain why Mu-Hee crazily chase her ex oversea to Japan, when she herself can't even speak Japanese. She did crazy things normal people won't. She throw her dignity to confront her ex, because she have this obssesive thought passed down from her mom.
Mu-Hee is partly crazy. She know it, that is why she grew anxiety what if the world know it?
What if Ho-Jin, the person she like, know she is crazy?
2.) Mu-Hee that we meet, is the mask.
Actual Mu-Hee is that crazy her who have obsessive thought, and doing things impulsively. After her family's accident, she learn how to restrict her self. She learn how to hide her self, that is why there is constant whisper in her mind to runaway, to hide as usual.
3.) Mu-Hee have obsessive thought.
That explain why she chase the chef to Japan. That explain why she shamlessly keep coming to Ho-Jin.
Her mom, have that obsessive thought. The show explained with how her mom use pregnancy to keep her lover, Mu-Hee's dad.
When they are family with Mu-Hee, once again Mu-Hee's dad about to leave her again, that is why her mom have that crazy thought : "if i can't have you, let us die together as a family."
4.) Her disorder became worse after sudden rise of popularity, then 2nd trigger when she is affraid that Ho-Jin will know her crazy part then abandon her like everyone else.
After visiting doctor in Japan, Mu-Hee have this constant thought of insecurities, how Ho-Jin will react, if he know her more?
That thought become burden for her, and she is hesitant to tell him. That is when Impulsive Do Rami begin to take over.
When Mu-Hee finally shared that burden to Ho-Jin, her burden is gone, and so is Do Rami.
This drama have it own version of DID.
The way i interpreted it, Do Rami gone not because Ho-Jin's care, (maybe some part of it) but Do Rami is manifestation of Mu-Hee's burden.
When the burden is gone, and so is Do Rami. Mu-Hee herself is not cured, because Do Rami is her. Do Rami that we see onscreen is visual storytelling. Do Rami's behavior is part of Mu-Hee.
Mu-Hee's ex, the chef with the pregnant lady, probably have revealed her crazy side, not just her relation with her family. That is why the pregnant lady called Mu-Hee as miserable woman.
That Mu-Hee's part. would you elaborate about Ho-Jin?
the way i saw it, there is two Do Rami that appear on screen.
Do Rami the hate comment, and
Do Rami the impulsive.
Both are related, but appear on different situation because they triggered by different things.
well i can't say further, but would like to know what you thought when everything is revealed.
your disliking prevent you to look deeper. i'm not questioning objectivity, im not talking about right or wrong.
in short.
Both characters here are complex, and your comment oversimplify them both.
I asked you about Mu-Hee's not as a test, i really like to know more what you thought about her, so maybe i can add what i interpreted.
in short,
1.) Ho-Jin thought that Mu-Hee's feeling to him is not genuine.
2.) Ho-Jin told Mu-Hee that he have move on from Ji-Seon.
Ho-Jin is already moved-on from Ji-Seon. He said it to Mu-Hee, that is why she cried later on, knowing her insecure feeling led her mistaken the situation and blabbering to make things worse.
Ho-Jin already open his heart, and about to move to next chapter with Mu-Hee.
But he thought Mu-Hee's effort is manythings except genuine feeling. He thought her effort is just to regain her pride after previous Ho-Jin's rejection.
He thought her effort is just to satisfy her curiousity about him after his rejection, something like her ego made her did it, not her heart.
While Ho-Jin is really genuine with her, he is just about to close his horror romance with Ji-Seon, just to be played by Mu-Hee.
to make it more complicated between them two, Mu-Hee's language usually contradictive with her meaning, or how she feel. While Ho-Jin is type of person who take words as literal meaning, he can't read emotion underneath it.
Once again, both speak same literal language, but different emotional language.
2nd part is about him learning her language through her past, trauma, anxiety, etc. it's like 2 different vibes, but its good storytelling.
both attracted to eachother, both speak same language, but they keep mistranslate it. So us audience saw it as push and pull along the show.
oh and between those 2 part, Ho-Jin begin to speak her language when he agree that they saw "rainbow".
Ho-Jin also try to speak her language when he simply threw words to encourage her, rather than explaining scientific things about aurora.
In ep07 they having conversation about their last conversation in Canada (end of ep06 that you questioning?).
end of ep10 is when he is finally able to learn her language.
1) "I hated how long the FL chased the ML"
2) "I really don’t like the trope where someone is secretly or unrequitedly in love for years and never does anything about it"
prevent you to look deeper.
if you dissect her, she is more than cute or tolerable.
if you dissect him, he is more than pathetic.
There are 3 railtracks during their 1st meeting.
1st railtrack is about them beginning journey together (move on from previous chapter of their relationship).
2nd railtracks is about them being together (bonding).
3rd is about them on the crosspath (go back to previous, or continue new chapter with new person).
their 2nd meeting is also in Japan, it's when she ask him to the doctor. im sure i saw train and railtrack.
then like you mentioned, one in Canada.
and there is still more of it, i just don't remember.
but i do remember his closing about zombie romance. He met with Ji-Seon in a train to Busan, and he comfortably speak his feeling to her in the past.
in the end, Ho-Jin able to speak in Mu-Hee's language, eventho Mu-Hee still hard to understand his. Because between them two, Ho-Jin is the one with skillset to dissect and learn new language.
Ho-Jin's confession sentence is confusing, because that reflect his way of thinking, realistic way. But then he use Mu-Hee's language : kiss.
After their heartbreak conversation in episode 06, when Mu Hee visit Ho-Jin's house by writer Kim's invitation.
During conversation between Mu-Hee and Ho-Jin when cooking. Mu-Hee metaphorically use boiling water as early phase of cooking as their current situation : they're not even begin with, it's just started heating.
Then Ho-Jin in literally cooking activities, he shut down the stove, but Mu-Hee once again use it as metaphor for their relation, expect him not to shut their fire (relationship) down, yet.
When Ho-Jin said "it's just water with kelp. There is nothing to it, really". That's how he thought of Mu-Hee's feeling to him (meaningless, nothing serious). Then Mu-Hee annoyed with him, because she is serious, and answered to him in direct word that she kissed him (he mean something to her).
This convo is explaining about each other feeling during their time in Canada, but once again, the filmmaker use indirect language so some of us probably failed to catch what happened with him in Canada.
But yes, that conversation between them at the end of episode 06 is quite confusing.
PS.
When Ho-Jin shut down the stove to let kelp cooling before seasoning, it's also metaphorically describe their story later. They need their relationship too cool down before seasoning and finally become delicious meal.
2nd : it's you
3rd : it's you
all that reasons you said, begin with "i", it's your pov, you failed to see their pov. you failed to translate this drama.
thats a way to brainwash yourself. kidding tho
And when they are already a family with Mu-Hee, i think FL's dad is about to leave her again, or their relationship isn't happy one. So her crazy thought is : "if she can't have him, let die together when they still a family".
I guess Mu-Hee have that kind of obsessive thought passed down from her mom.
He thought her effort is manything else except genuine feeling. That hurt him, because he seriously is open his heart for her.
Mu-Hee's word manytimes is contradictive with her feeling (and so is most women), and Ho-Jin is type person whom take everyone word as literal meaning (and so is most men). That is where them two lost in translation.
Ohh, and Ho-Jin is already about to cross that railtrack when in Japan. He is about to move on from Ji-Seon when he met Mu-Hee.