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I hope I got it right. It would be great to hear other opinions too. Dong Man and Jin Man are interesting individuals; sensitive, creative, eccentric, wounded, long suffering survivors. And their relationship is intriguing and engaging too. Not always easy to understand since they are so alike and so different at the same time. I still have a couple of episodes to watch so I'm still hoping to learn more about their family upbringing in childhood. And I keep imagining a particular ending but I'm not there to see it just yet.

I could be wrong but my take is this: Jin Man couldn't hit the person that he truly wanted to hit. Gyeong Se. Because it would only have made things worse if he attacked Gyeong Se. GS would sue and put him in prison, for sure. But he wants to keep his brother away from that old 'friend' so he made that known by hitting Dong Man instead. On the one hand, he's telling his kid brother that he's an idiot for his bad behaviour and for sticking where he isn't wanted. But he's looking at Gyeong Se and GS is left in awe. He's pretty clear what could happen to him next time when there are no witnesses around. It's like , on the other hand, he's saying ... 'this situation is so wrong and it makes me so angry that I'll do this to my own brother ... imagine what I will do to you, if you keep treating this situation and my brother the way that you have been.' And, I think, it works. Little brother feels the point and GS is truly left in a state of awe and fear at the end of the demonstration. The message is crystal clear that he is taking a huge risk when he messes with this guy's kid brother. Stop now or you're next.

I don't know what the ratings were like for The Smile has Left Your Eyes but the script was good, it was a serious role, definitely not a rom-com and she killed it along with her costar. It absolutely proved her acting chops to me so, if you haven't really watched it, you should. With that and AOS it hit me that she's one of the most reliably talented FLs in NKorea. She definitely has range in her performances even if she and her team have chosen a few projects that weren't also exactly to my taste. Very few actors have a resume with no bad choices on it. Look at Yoo Seung Ho. Great actor with some great roles and quite a few bad ones as well. These two are similar to me in this respect.

thank you !!!

Is there a point where the he stops hating her and she stops humiliating herself? If so, please let me know what episode to skip to. I'm on episode 3 right now and I can't take it anymore.

I love how you speak as though you're right and nobody else can have an opinion. But of course, I disagree.

season 3.

After reading the webtoon first, I liked the drama better. s1 and s2. So, not everyone feels the same way. The drama has so much more subtlety and depth. It's moving. But that's partly due to the differences between the two mediums and the fact that they probably shouldn't be compared. imho.

Apparently, the filming has wrapped.

oh ... i loved it too. sooo underrated.

LoL. You weren't asking me ... and you have probably seen them but, just in case, Beyond Evil, Flower of Evil, Nobody Knows, Mouse and Black Out.

It is if you want it to be and it isn't if you don't want it to be ...

there are a couple of difficult fight scenes mainly because s2 pits him against much better fighters ... so he has to keep turning to his unorthodox weapons (including the pen and another sharp instrument) but ... they're telegraphed early enough for you to be ready to turn your head.

Be prepared for the rooftop fight and the final fight. they're both quite brutal because he must win ... but, you'll see them coming and ... in my mind they didn't hit as hard as the ep1, ep7 or the ep8 fights in season 1. Those were the ones that I found hardest to watch.

Also ... there's more humour in this second season. It's kind of zoomed out a bit from the close personal, psychological focus and retributions of s1.

Anyway, i hope you enjoy it all. I think you will.

He definitely exists in this season. In fact, his being there is incredibly important for the mood and si eun's development ... and, if we're lucky enough to get a part 3 he will, no doubt, have his own development once again. In the webtoon, he magically steps out of his coma ... at the very end of the story ... only si eun doesn't find out about it until he's back out in life all healed again. happy ending but extremely rushed :-)

oh my. you want a count? how about you just watch with your eyes closed for the bits you don't like ... there will be a few but it's still a good story

He desperately needs his friendship, approval, help because he values him most and doesn't fully trust anyone else.

I feel the same way that you're describing here. I couldn't even re-watch all of s1 even though I loved it so much ... but I could easily re-watch s2. Knowing what happens in the second half of 1 makes it too emotionally difficult. But I know that there isn't anything in 2 that's going to cause me too much pain. It was all really great though. And I'm looking forward to a s3 with everyone that we love in it.

I loved the first season but omg it was harsh. I've re-watched the first 4 episodes a number of times and then had to stop before the pain begins. S2 I can re-watch all the way through without feeling too badly beat up :-)

please don't listen to people who are saying that s2 is no good. s1 is excellent. It's hard hitting but amazing. And s2 is a good continuation. It's different, not as hard hitting with more funny moments ... that you will need after watching s1. So, please give them both a look. I have no idea why people are being so hard on the second instalment of what will probably be a trilogy. Anyway ... enjoy ...

Yes 'different' and 'incorrect' should be clarified.

You're mixing up something that's important when you say that your opinion is correct and other people's opinions are incorrect. Why?Because people have opinions rather than facts when it comes to things like art.

The correct distinction is as follows. Opinions are not fact. People's opinions are not factual. Your opinions are not some kind of objective statement of fact while other people's are different and incorrect.

The word 'correct' or 'incorrect' applies to statements of fact and things that can be proven. You can offer evidence to back up an opinion. You can state your reasons for holding an opinion.

But your reasons and your evidence do not make your opinion into a fact. Your opinion can be well supported or not ... but it is still just an opinion and someone else's opinion is still just their opinion. Neither of you are holding onto facts.

So, don't claim that your opinions are correct as if they are facts. Instead ... go to the dictionary to learn the next important and related distinction ... between what is subjective and what is objective.