I thought the idea that the daughter caused the accident (previously posted by another commenter) was harsh, but…
And the little girl purposefully wanted to kill herself and/or her mother? Sorry, but isn't that's kind of ridiculous? I can't think of an explanation that would be less likely. Unless there was an accidental switch leading to an unintended outcome. Like she had a sudden impulse or whim to drive fast or fly, maybe. But still. Really unlikely imo :-)
morally grey FL's are nothing new to Kdramas.There are many Kdramas with similar kind of FL.What we never get…
It's true that this kind of FL isn't new to kdramas but she doesn't come along very often. Women don't forgive other women very easily so this kind of FL will have to show redeeming characteristics but soon or the drama will get trashed right along with the character.
And, it's also true that the heroic, or misunderstood, ML who is half of a fated love story will always, in fact, be a virgin. It's a part of his being a hero or his being misunderstood :-) but we do get morally grey ML's whose sexual history isn't explored.
It's not talked about or reviewed visually, but you know that they're not virgins because it's just so incredibly obvious. They're so good looking that women fall at their feet. And they're so entitled that they see this silly behaviour as being a given. Of course they're sleeping around.
Actually, you don't see it as much in more recent dramas, but, for me, it's more irritating that the women who write kdramas show so many women worshipping a pretty face even if the owner of it is a reprehensible person. I guess it's accurate that pretty boys and girls get away with too much in life but it's disheartening to see it portrayed so often.
I see people who are dropping because they dislike the FL. I don't like her much either but I'm not dropping because…
I totally agree with you on every point. And it really irks me that this only seems to happen with unlikable FLs. And, at it's heart, it's a kind of sexism that the bar is set so much higher for the behaviour of female characters.
I mean, you don't hear much about it when the drama's ML starts off as a horrible person. He's just described as being 'tsundere' and everyone lets it go even if he doesn't actually improve much throughout the drama, or he only improves, as a rudimentary human being, in relation to the FL that he's fallen in love with.
A FL that begins a drama with bad qualities rarely gets away with it. People just love to hate them, won't tolerate them and become incensed enough to drop the drama because of them, even though they will obviously undergo some kind of transformation to improve as human beings.
So, this kind of dropping is silly, really. Why not wait for that predictable thing called character development and enjoy the transformation?
Go Mun Young in It's Ok Not to be Ok is another case in point. People were outraged at her behaviour and were slow, or quite unable, to forgive her even as she changed and you learned why she had been the way that she was.
I thought the idea that the daughter caused the accident (previously posted by another commenter) was harsh, but…
I thought that the daughter was experiencing her power for the first time while they were driving in the car. Not sure what it was, exactly, but her eyes lit up bright blue. And that's when her mother lost control of the car. I didn't think that the mother or the daughter had done anything deliberate to cause a deadly collision. No murder-suicide or anything like that. It was just unfortunate timing that caused an accident. But it seems that, ever since then, the daughter has been seeing herself as being at fault for the accident and every misfortune that has occurred since then. Poor kid. Someone needs to help her feel better about what happened.
Just two episodes in and ... this is actually very cool. It's quirky, different, intriguing. A really original premise with some very unlikely, super(anti)hero, main characters and a very solid cast.
The parents are played by two talented veterans. I only know the female lead from Be Melodramatic but that was excellent so, enough said about that. I have a feeling that this will be Jang Ki Yong's best drama selection and best work to date. It looks like he's chosen well for his first drama after enlistment. And the young girl who plays his daughter? I have always wanted to see more of her. She has great potential for a long and successful career in kdramas.
Anyway, for those who are asking, so far, it isn't similar to Moving at all. It's not based on a webtoon or a novel. It's an original screenplay that is communicating very well as it comes out of the block. The cinematography and tone have a suspenseful moody feel to them and, overall, it has the feel of quality about it, which probably has something to do with Jo Hyun Taek, the Baeksang Arts Award winning director of Sky Castle.
Hmmm. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing more of this.
Some comments and people...I don't think we will ever get something we all enjoy together at all!! 😅 I know…
They don't want other people's opposing opinions to be heard. Sometimes they don't want a drama to be seen by other people who might enjoy it. So, they swamp it with the lowest possible rating just to bring the rating down as far as possible. Some will even create multiple accounts for the purpose. So, basically, it's a juvenile power trip kind of thing.
This reminds me of "Extraordinary You". In the first part, the rating was very high, and then it dropped. I hope…
So pessimistic. You'll jinx us if you aren't careful :-) But I enjoyed EY all the way through so I don't quite understand what everybody else was complaining about. All it seems to take is a couple of episodes that lose a little momentum and then everyone jumps ship. I mean you have to expect a few rest episodes before the high notes that come at the end. Don't ya think? :-)
Watch First scenes of ep1 and skip to the last scene of ep 4 and thank me later : spoiler 😂😂
Not sure that's a spoiler. It's that you made a really smart observation !!! So, she still doesn't know/remember him but she answers straight away instead of on the 22nd ring like when she was so distraught in the hospital. Ahhhh. progress, maybe :-)
but we've seen SJ save her twice already. And there was the flashback to her waking up in the hospital screaming…
I hope and imagine that there will be a few plot twists and it seems that they will compete for the girl so ... maybe? But I'm still doubting it. Second leads don't usually have their fates all intertwined with a first lead. That honour usually goes to the other main lead.
it could be tae sung are the one who save im sol guys..just my theory
but we've seen SJ save her twice already. And there was the flashback to her waking up in the hospital screaming 'why did that person have to save me?' while he was standing outside the door also in tears. I guess there will be a next accident where TS might be the one to save her. But, unless they start tag-teaming to protect her, I have a feeling that it's always going to be SJ who seems to have that as part of his fate.
Guys I finally got banned from the other forum site for posting too many comments. I guess ep 3-4 made me mental.…
reddit r/KDRAMA? It's not OK. That's one draconian rule from a place that used to be a great spot for friendly discussion. Just make another account and join again. Although it's going downhill so bad and a lot of us will fall out with these new rules.
I just don't understand how nowadays those entertainment agencies still don't seem to run a full background check…
This actor has been working in kdramas since 2003. There have been many jobs and many contracts. And her past would undoubtedly have come out by now if she really had a past like the one being described in these stories. In other words, the background checks have already been done throughout her 20 year career and she has passed them.
Now put that up against some anonymous, unproven, allegations and ask why we should jump to believe claims that have obviously been designed to kill someone's career ... ?
Why do we give these things the time of day? They're just nasty stories from anonymous people who want to strike a blow at someone famous. I mean she's 37. She's been around in the business for 20 years, right back to the time when this allegedly happened ... in high school. And now there are allegations just after she's successfully played a bully in a big drama. Please! How ridiculous.
so the KSY pain is more than anyone else...no it isn't, how dare he forget his father killed someone's son, and…
We know that the dad was hateful and showed no remorse when he was alone in front of SooHyun. But nobody else knows that because she didn't defend herself. Every one else but the viewer saw him on his knees in court saying how sorry he was ...
There's no proof or reason to believe that SuHo wasn't alone in the house on the day of the accident. We just don't know yet who opened the door and why.
the difference is her child was innocent and his dad murdered a kid..
His dad didn't murder the child though. We don't know everything about that accident yet but, if what we know is actually right, it really wasn't some kind of premeditated first or even a second degree murder.
The dad accidentally hit a little boy who was running in the street. He went to take him to the ER in his car and then panicked when the boy seemed to have stopped breathing, at which point, he left him in the park and briefly ran away before turning himself into the police.
So, it was a hit and run where the delay getting to the hospital might have affected the outcome i.e. hit and run manslaughter. Definitely bad. Definitely a tragedy. But not intentional.
SooHyun, however, intentionally killed someone which is definitely second degree and arguably first degree murder.
That means, from SeonYul's point of view it was an accident that his father was sorry for ... compared to a murder for which SooHyun showed no remorse.
I regret watching the whole thing. It started out interesting but with most Kdramas they tend to drag after ep.10.…
Whoa. I think you're really not into Kdramas and should probably stop watching them. So many, very large, complaints.
But this one is based on a webtoon, so it's supposed to be way over the top and not some kind of realistic depiction.
It was obviously intended to be funny. Comedy. Romance. Youth. Drama.
And OMG it was seriously funny! I laughed so hard on the first and this, my second, viewing as well. And it's so nice to have something to laugh about. But, you didn't laugh at all?
For me it's the second funniest Kdrama and one of the funniest dramas from anywhere in the world. It's second to Welcome to Waikiki for pure, silly, sweet and just plain FUN humour.
It's a very close second, though. So enjoyable :-)
Who hires the first kidnapper (the homeless man in the first two episodes) ? How did he know where to find Rohee…
Jayden and the mercenary guy both work for X Capital where the RoHee's evil doctor dad went to get a second wave of investors for his experiment. One was a "fund manager"/investor and the other was a fixer/'handyman'. Their boss was the guy we heard on the phone that one time; presumably the CEO and/or the largest investor.
The homeless man, on the other hand, wasn't a 'first kidnapper'. He was some opportunistic dude for hire who was probably working for RoHee's uncle who wanted to find and eliminate RoHee since she stood in the way of his inheriting his family's money.
So, basically, the family wanted RoHee to be gone or dead. And the investors wanted her alive as long as she could quietly make them a lot of money. Therefore, homeless dude was killed by the X Capital handyman to preserve the return on investment.
Why the heck does Ryang Eum have white hair??? Like, huh?? Did I miss something?
Why wouldn't he have white hair? He's in a mad-house prison because he's someone who knows the truth. Presumably they have no evidence for a death penalty but they would need to discredit his words so they jail him in an asylum where nobody will listen or believe him if he tries to speak. It redefines him as a crazy person and it would have given them a whole lot of time and space to treat/torture him into changing his words. And then they left him to rot in the dark where nobody could hear or find him.
And, it's also true that the heroic, or misunderstood, ML who is half of a fated love story will always, in fact, be a virgin. It's a part of his being a hero or his being misunderstood :-) but we do get morally grey ML's whose sexual history isn't explored.
It's not talked about or reviewed visually, but you know that they're not virgins because it's just so incredibly obvious. They're so good looking that women fall at their feet. And they're so entitled that they see this silly behaviour as being a given. Of course they're sleeping around.
Actually, you don't see it as much in more recent dramas, but, for me, it's more irritating that the women who write kdramas show so many women worshipping a pretty face even if the owner of it is a reprehensible person. I guess it's accurate that pretty boys and girls get away with too much in life but it's disheartening to see it portrayed so often.
I mean, you don't hear much about it when the drama's ML starts off as a horrible person. He's just described as being 'tsundere' and everyone lets it go even if he doesn't actually improve much throughout the drama, or he only improves, as a rudimentary human being, in relation to the FL that he's fallen in love with.
A FL that begins a drama with bad qualities rarely gets away with it. People just love to hate them, won't tolerate them and become incensed enough to drop the drama because of them, even though they will obviously undergo some kind of transformation to improve as human beings.
So, this kind of dropping is silly, really. Why not wait for that predictable thing called character development and enjoy the transformation?
Go Mun Young in It's Ok Not to be Ok is another case in point. People were outraged at her behaviour and were slow, or quite unable, to forgive her even as she changed and you learned why she had been the way that she was.
The parents are played by two talented veterans. I only know the female lead from Be Melodramatic but that was excellent so, enough said about that. I have a feeling that this will be Jang Ki Yong's best drama selection and best work to date. It looks like he's chosen well for his first drama after enlistment. And the young girl who plays his daughter? I have always wanted to see more of her. She has great potential for a long and successful career in kdramas.
Anyway, for those who are asking, so far, it isn't similar to Moving at all. It's not based on a webtoon or a novel. It's an original screenplay that is communicating very well as it comes out of the block. The cinematography and tone have a suspenseful moody feel to them and, overall, it has the feel of quality about it, which probably has something to do with Jo Hyun Taek, the Baeksang Arts Award winning director of Sky Castle.
Hmmm. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing more of this.
Now put that up against some anonymous, unproven, allegations and ask why we should jump to believe claims that have obviously been designed to kill someone's career ... ?
There's no proof or reason to believe that SuHo wasn't alone in the house on the day of the accident. We just don't know yet who opened the door and why.
The dad accidentally hit a little boy who was running in the street. He went to take him to the ER in his car and then panicked when the boy seemed to have stopped breathing, at which point, he left him in the park and briefly ran away before turning himself into the police.
So, it was a hit and run where the delay getting to the hospital might have affected the outcome i.e. hit and run manslaughter. Definitely bad. Definitely a tragedy. But not intentional.
SooHyun, however, intentionally killed someone which is definitely second degree and arguably first degree murder.
That means, from SeonYul's point of view it was an accident that his father was sorry for ... compared to a murder for which SooHyun showed no remorse.
But this one is based on a webtoon, so it's supposed to be way over the top and not some kind of realistic depiction.
It was obviously intended to be funny. Comedy. Romance. Youth. Drama.
And OMG it was seriously funny! I laughed so hard on the first and this, my second, viewing as well. And it's so nice to have something to laugh about. But, you didn't laugh at all?
For me it's the second funniest Kdrama and one of the funniest dramas from anywhere in the world. It's second to Welcome to Waikiki for pure, silly, sweet and just plain FUN humour.
It's a very close second, though. So enjoyable :-)
The homeless man, on the other hand, wasn't a 'first kidnapper'. He was some opportunistic dude for hire who was probably working for RoHee's uncle who wanted to find and eliminate RoHee since she stood in the way of his inheriting his family's money.
So, basically, the family wanted RoHee to be gone or dead. And the investors wanted her alive as long as she could quietly make them a lot of money. Therefore, homeless dude was killed by the X Capital handyman to preserve the return on investment.