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You're challenging my tactics? Ha. Where, then, would you put the incredibly well trained, well armed martial artist? You'd have him hide behind a door with a dozen women? Remind me not to put you in charge of a fight.

Hmmm. Deploy lethal bodyguards to a more advanced position where they could defend everyone and the entire stronghold ... and keep the enemy from finding/invading their specific hiding place ...or ... keep them in a room full of non-fighters where they can't do anything to help anyone until the very last minute when it's essentially too late for everyone? What would you do?

I'm wondering if you have answered the wrong person? I didn't say these things. All that I said was that his motivation included the fact that he knew he could never get out of his obsession while he was alive. It was one of the things he said to her. His actions were not purely for her sake. He did what was best for both of them.

ML absolutely never wanted to be Emperor and still doesn't at the end ... so I imagine that he'll just be an advisor.

hmmm not everyones opinion

I would have liked more as well. The scene where CP finds out that TY has been thinking of himself as the expendable blade ... and then finds out that CP really sees him as 'my man' instead. There was a really nice couple of moments in that scene. Some good acting. And it was just wonderful to see the younger man grow in self esteem and hope and also in his appreciation for his boss. You could just see all these new layers in their relationship being uncovered and reformed and just ... deepened. Wonderful!

masterpiece !!!

they get a very HE :-) happy and ideal

when he's dying in her arms he says that he wouldn't be able to change and break his obsession with her ... so he was essentially sacrificing himself for her sake and his own. the situation he was creating could never have just gone away cuz he would never get over her.

oh. we'll have to agree to disagree. maybe you just liked him more than i did :-) I hadn't even encountered the actor before ..

haha. i guess i don't need to watch generation to generation now :-)

i was curious about why 'you' liked it. I mean I'll try an ep without your guidance but you seemed to want to share.

He had a habit of trying out new medications on himself before giving them to the CP. And they had been extreme in the past so I imagine that the one he found that finally worked, did a good amount of harm to them both. Miracles are costly. Often they're poisonous and ... also it's pretty bad to have to watch someone you care and worry about go through a lot of pain. It can be worse than experiencing the pain yourself. Which might be why he ended up looking worse than the CP did.

It wasn't all faked though. He was going down that path until she told him why she chose his brother's love over his. Once he understood that he needed to change but couldn't, he decided to go to the worst extreme so that his behavior would benefit her and take him out of the picture.

I don't think that he loved her more than the CP did. And I don't think he loved her in both of her lives. I think he was a possessive man who couldn't live with the knowledge that he had failed to protect or save his wife the first time around. He had terrible guilt and remorse and was desperate for another chance. Partly for her and partly because he couldn't live with that picture of himself. Anyway, I wasn't sorry to see him go because in going he proved that he had finally understood both her and himself. He really hadn't been able to see or appreciate the difference between his love and his brothers and what the difference meant to her. So, it was a true revelation for him, when he finally asked and she described the difference. That changed him. It didn't happen before that. He was honestly becoming quite a frightening villain but he turned that around to her advantage when he made his final decision to redeem himself and do what they both needed him to do. I don't quite agree that it was a glorious redemption or a wholehearted love though. He just realized that he was hurting her, ruining himself and he would never be able to break away from his guilt-ridden, possessive obsession in any other way. Reality, futility and better thinking finally sank in.

I felt exactly the same way! That can't wait til the next episode and that excitement when you get it in the morning. Those are really very very good signs that a drama is working well. Very enjoyable.

what makes it a gem?

Decisions. Decisions. Great ending. and a lovely conclusion, for an excellent drama. Now ... should it be 9.0 or 9,5? I think I need to do a start to finish binge-style re-watch ... to flow right through without the starts, stops and all that wait time. That should decide the .5 difference and ... well ... I just want to see it again. I want to see Tian Yuan's flat out run of joy again, the sweet moments that follow it. And absolutely everything that led up to them. And no stopping to read people's complaints on mdl. I want to just watch with my own thoughts cuz there's a lot of excitement in this drama but there are a lot of contemplative quiet moments too and they deserve to be enjoyed without noise. So, see you next time everyone. I hope you all enjoyed this drama as much as I did. It's not everyday that you get such a good blend of fun, funny, seriousness, excitement, drama, love, hate, infighting, suspense, mystery ... shamelessness :-) ... between some quite memorable characters.

What? Too many words? I just like to tell people about things that I enjoyed. Pls forgive and do whatever. Actually, I just looked at your watchlist and maybe you won't like it at all.

hahaha. Yes. Definitely. But at the end you might want it to be even longer! I did. Actually, I kinda binged it in three parts and it went by pretty fast with the well paced 45 minute episodes. Lots of cliffhangers. Lots of great characters and amazing moments including some fantastic fight scenes. So, it kinda just flows by. And you just might love it too. Try it and see :-) You might get bitten by it too. I mean ... which of those characters will be Lost Forever? If you're like me you might get very invested in the answer to that question. Let me know if you ever try it :-)