everything about her is odd. I just can't figure out if she was always mean in the first place or if she became mean out of frustration after she understood that fuheng would never be in love with her.
whatever she did was putting herself in a difficult position, or even destroying every chance to have a good life. she was smart and gave very good advises to ming yu, when ming yu was the one being jealous. it means that she fairly understood the pros and cons of the decisions she made in the situation she was herself in. but she chose consciously the wrong way to deal with it. she lead herself in a situation where everybody would hate her. who does that?
my point is, her behavior isn't consistent. the only way I could explain it is this one: narcissistic people often destroy the very person who is saving their life. they seems to be enable to understand that they are hurting themselves in the process until it's too late. they do it out of envy, because they think too highly about themselves: "if he/she can save me, that means he/she thinks I am less powerful than they are. and I am not."
the problem is, even if we assume she is a narcissist, she goes way too far... I mean she makes too dangerous decisions, and act too dangerously compared to the benefits she can gain out of it. for example, she knew that her relationship with the queen was one of those helping her to stay in fuheng's life. she had very little to gain in destroying the queen, and a lot to loose. if we assume that she wanted to hurt fuheng and the queen, all she had to do was killing her step-mother. no need to enter the forbidden city again, not as risky as killing the queen, and she would be the only mistress of her house.
I really don't understand this character. what do you think about this?
my 2nd spoiler will be about wether or not ying luo loved the king.
she said she did, but I don't believe it. 2 reasons:
1st: when people are kidnapped (kept in detention, here in the forbidden city) they tend to love their geolink (Stockholm syndrome). here, the king, because he is the only person free to leave the forbidden city if he wants, and also the only person who can decide whether those who live in the city can leave it. It is also the person with the most power, the one who can protect you or kill you with one word. this attachment mechanism is intended to ensure survival. the longer capture lasts, the deeper the attachment.
2nd: she is never honest with him. we can compare her conversations with fuheng to those she has with the king. With the king she makes a lot of noise. she manipulates him all the time. she pretends to want something, then changes her mind, she’s very unpredictable, which is consistent with a lack of trust and a seduction game. with fuheng she is serious. she speaks little (although she also plays). but above all, she is very honest, she says straight forwardly what she wants (her revenge), and does not manipulate him or play games. That means she not only loves him, but she trusts him. most of all, the only person in the world to have a scented pouch embroidered by ying luo, is fuheng.
what are your feelings about these? I don’t think she should have gone back to the forbidden city. But she had to take revenge, didn’t she?
my first spoiler will be about the 2 last episodes
why was it disappointing for me? 1st, the insects thing was like a dive inside a fantasy style story. I know the drama isn't historical (or is it?), but it could be. this insects thing had nothing to do here. I searched on the internet and couldn't find any "corps' bug". if this do exist, please tell me. 2nd, it was a little too easy to kill fuheng. it's like they didn't know how to deal with this character while wrapping the story. 3rd, yuan shun wang was obviously telling the truth about his birth otherwise the empress dowager would not react this way. 4th, ying luo didn't want to be the empress because of the duties embedded in the role. but still ended up being in charge. I don't think it suits her, even in the old age.
To me it was a total waste First of all, when he travels back and comes to 2018 for the 1st time, realising that…
as I said, so many things should have been said and done, and so many shouldn't.... we agree, it was a very disappointing drama. maybe you meant I should have score it less? I don't know.... I really loved the beginning, and I hope someone REmake it and hold all the destiny's threads together.
I enjoyed it too, it was so promising! that's why I was so disappointed in the end...
but the way it happened was disappointing. he didn't want to be with her and all of a sudden she knows everything about the highway and have her way by force. she didn't learn anything. she did the same stalking when she met him for the first time and I hated it. and then, here she is doing it again like that's a good thing! he evolved a lot but she didn't. and I really hate this idea that you have to stalk your lover to be with her/him. that's disgusting. I don't know if you understand my point of view...?
I was about to drop it, and I will just watch the 2 last episodes. about doctors being playful you thought wrong: being stressed all the time, they tend to be very childish and playful all the time. I have many friends and family in this business (if we can it like that) and they are terrible people to talk to in every day conversations. they learn to behave like that in med schools. in every students' city in france, if you also have a med school, their parties will always be the (worse) craziest ones. it's part of the tradition here... so, I think the characters of the show are nice.
That is precisely how I felt about this drama: cowards. Im Eun Sob is an exception though; I just loved his character…
I understand. I also have some issues to point some behaviors and sometimes I need more time to acknowledge my own feelings. in this case it was easy and fast for me because I am naturally passionate and impulsive. lukewarm situations just make me boil inside. but I can understand that's difficult for a cooler person. thanks for sharing your thoughts.
do someone has the answer? nothing clear was said (or I missed it) about their former marriage. did jiho registered the divorce or not? did they remarry or not? I know they agreed to not have a ceremony. I am not talking about that. so, do someone know?
It's over. I'm one of those rare ones that liked it from beginning to end and didn't find any part boring. Yes,…
I loved it too. I don't understand why people criticized so much, and why they kept watching if they didn't like it. when I get bored, I just stop. this show was very soothing and funny.
JUST FINISHED THE LAST EP, HAEJIN DESERVED MUCH BETTER~!!
I think that's for the best. think about it: he has his family's support now, so he will never use drugs again. his story with seun is over: meaning he has no unrequited love anymore, his heart will eventually heal, and at this moment he will be able to meet and love for real. most of all: AMY loves him at last!!!! that's just awesome! ;-)
everything about her is odd. I just can't figure out if she was always mean in the first place or if she became mean out of frustration after she understood that fuheng would never be in love with her.
whatever she did was putting herself in a difficult position, or even destroying every chance to have a good life. she was smart and gave very good advises to ming yu, when ming yu was the one being jealous. it means that she fairly understood the pros and cons of the decisions she made in the situation she was herself in. but she chose consciously the wrong way to deal with it. she lead herself in a situation where everybody would hate her. who does that?
my point is, her behavior isn't consistent. the only way I could explain it is this one: narcissistic people often destroy the very person who is saving their life. they seems to be enable to understand that they are hurting themselves in the process until it's too late. they do it out of envy, because they think too highly about themselves: "if he/she can save me, that means he/she thinks I am less powerful than they are. and I am not."
the problem is, even if we assume she is a narcissist, she goes way too far... I mean she makes too dangerous decisions, and act too dangerously compared to the benefits she can gain out of it. for example, she knew that her relationship with the queen was one of those helping her to stay in fuheng's life. she had very little to gain in destroying the queen, and a lot to loose. if we assume that she wanted to hurt fuheng and the queen, all she had to do was killing her step-mother. no need to enter the forbidden city again, not as risky as killing the queen, and she would be the only mistress of her house.
I really don't understand this character.
what do you think about this?
she said she did, but I don't believe it. 2 reasons:
1st: when people are kidnapped (kept in detention, here in the forbidden city) they tend to love their geolink (Stockholm syndrome). here, the king, because he is the only person free to leave the forbidden city if he wants, and also the only person who can decide whether those who live in the city can leave it. It is also the person with the most power, the one who can protect you or kill you with one word. this attachment mechanism is intended to ensure survival. the longer capture lasts, the deeper the attachment.
2nd: she is never honest with him. we can compare her conversations with fuheng to those she has with the king.
With the king she makes a lot of noise. she manipulates him all the time. she pretends to want something, then changes her mind, she’s very unpredictable, which is consistent with a lack of trust and a seduction game.
with fuheng she is serious. she speaks little (although she also plays). but above all, she is very honest, she says straight forwardly what she wants (her revenge), and does not manipulate him or play games. That means she not only loves him, but she trusts him. most of all, the only person in the world to have a scented pouch embroidered by ying luo, is fuheng.
what are your feelings about these?
I don’t think she should have gone back to the forbidden city. But she had to take revenge, didn’t she?
why was it disappointing for me?
1st, the insects thing was like a dive inside a fantasy style story. I know the drama isn't historical (or is it?), but it could be. this insects thing had nothing to do here. I searched on the internet and couldn't find any "corps' bug". if this do exist, please tell me.
2nd, it was a little too easy to kill fuheng. it's like they didn't know how to deal with this character while wrapping the story.
3rd, yuan shun wang was obviously telling the truth about his birth otherwise the empress dowager would not react this way.
4th, ying luo didn't want to be the empress because of the duties embedded in the role. but still ended up being in charge. I don't think it suits her, even in the old age.
what do you think about these?
we agree, it was a very disappointing drama. maybe you meant I should have score it less? I don't know.... I really loved the beginning, and I hope someone REmake it and hold all the destiny's threads together.
about doctors being playful you thought wrong: being stressed all the time, they tend to be very childish and playful all the time. I have many friends and family in this business (if we can it like that) and they are terrible people to talk to in every day conversations. they learn to behave like that in med schools. in every students' city in france, if you also have a med school, their parties will always be the (worse) craziest ones. it's part of the tradition here... so, I think the characters of the show are nice.
nothing clear was said (or I missed it) about their former marriage. did jiho registered the divorce or not? did they remarry or not?
I know they agreed to not have a ceremony. I am not talking about that.
so, do someone know?
I don't understand why people criticized so much, and why they kept watching if they didn't like it. when I get bored, I just stop.
this show was very soothing and funny.
remember what jiho said about how he spent these 5 years eating with her? the beginning of the video is now so heart wrenching... I think the drama has a huge rewatch value.
enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KgOv3ek9Uk&list=PLUuBTK6_1XRpHe19C1BJ2SCXAsy19ZHJN&index=36
he has his family's support now, so he will never use drugs again.
his story with seun is over: meaning he has no unrequited love anymore, his heart will eventually heal, and at this moment he will be able to meet and love for real.
most of all: AMY loves him at last!!!!
that's just awesome! ;-)