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the dimples!! they make him look sooo attractive

yes i noticed this too! they probably don't think he's handsome enough to be paired with bai lu, but his visuals are just more masculine than the typical popular male lead because of his boxier look. i personally think he's very attractive, even more with the glasses

honestly this comment section surprised me with how much they're throwing wanghe under the bus when in other drama comment sections the mls get defended for the tiniest things lol. and this is a very realistic drama too, so it shouldn't be so surprising that the leads are flawed.

Agreed, I've seen way worse male leads. He still cares for her, he just prioritizes his work first.

Yep, the Italian genes must just be really strong lol

The grandmother married a man of Italian descent, and they had a son who is Siyi's dad. Siyi's mom remarried after the dad died and had the little brother, so the brother is on Siyi's mom's side, while the grandmother is on Siyi's dad's side.

It's really interesting to see how the dynamics have shifted between the three best friends who grew up together now working as a boss and two subordinates, and how that takes a toll on their relationship as friends. Wanghe has always been someone who strove for greatness, even as a little kid. And that is essentially what differs him from Fenghua in how they manage their businesses. Wanghe prioritizes money and success, while Fenghua focuses on the people and their wellbeing.
I think a character had already mentioned this before, but if those 4 weren't childhood best friends that spent their whole lives together, they definitely would not have been friends if they met as adults. Wanghe's drive for success has already put a strain on his relationship with Fenghua and the boys. Realistically, a future relationship with Fenghua would be super unideal. It's weirdly more unrealistic than all 5 of their ancestors being connected through the newly discovered ship. Wanghe will need to change a lot for this relationship to ever work, but I'm starting to have my doubts considering his personality hasn't changed much from how he was as a kid

I think the romance and the relationships Huazi has with the boys is very telling that this story was written by a man. Wanghe being her great love that she has never wavered from, the lines that you mentioned of women not being "ambitious" and her only going to Beijing for Wanghe. I tried giving Wanghe the benefit of the doubt but these recent episodes are making it hard...

okay fair

I don't think he does. I think he's way too focused on his career to realize how it's inpacting Fenghua's, but not to the extent of him thinking he's better than her

They definitely have changed, you can see it through how they behave at work, especially Fenghua. Xingchi has become a lot more brash too. When they're together, they behave the way they did as kids, but that's typical because they grew up together.

Like one of the characters said, I hope Fenghua's feelings for Wanghe truly have faded a lot after everyone going their separate ways and the timeskip. I need him to pursue her loudly and unashamedly once he falls for her, because Fenghua deserves that and more.

I feel like the casting made a misstep when casting Aesun's mother. The actress is great no doubt, but she looks visibly old, and they literally state the character died at 29 years old. The whole story behind her death was that she died young due to smoking and being a Haenyeo.

I also think the visible contrast would've been great in the scene of episode 8, where Aesun spends her last night at her mother's house and her mother visits her again in a dream. But this time Aesun is middle aged, older than her mother will ever be. She would have spoken to her still-29 year old mother, who she has now outgrown. That contrast of the daughter outgrowing the mother would have been painfully beautiful.

It's more value based I guess but the kids get along just like the reply88 kids

It's decent so far! The parents have equal screentime to the kids so it can get a little boring at times, really depends on what kind of genre you like. It's very much a family-based slice of life drama like reply 1988

I'm watching the cdrama 'Northward' along with this since both are currently airing, but it's interesting how both dramas coincidentally also have a couple themes in common:
- both reference the Dragon Water King
- both stories are heavily tied in with water
- both have female leads that get bullied by elders for being born a woman

I saw this comment before watching the ep so I thought I was prepared... I wasn't 😭 that was so unexpected im in shock just like you

It's so satisfying every time the kids crash out on their dads, especially when they're defending their moms it's almost cathartic

Male relative ("uncle") attempted to sexually assault her many times, including opening the lock of her locked room when no one was in the house. Other men also tried sexually assaulting her when she was in a shared apartment. She was basically abandoned by her mother after her father died, the mother ran off to live with her new family while she was forced to live with relatives that verbally and physically abused her. A boss at her old job also inappropriately touched her but spread lies to make it seem like she started the affair, which made all her coworkers mistreat her

Definitely, I prefer the dynamics in tff's love story more than hidden love's. HL has the cute "brother's best friend" age gap romance, while the first frost is built on pining and a more mature kind of love