Does anyone know how Prince Ning and the Emperor are related? Clearly, Prince Ning is the son of the former Emperor and his concubine and it looks like they are brothers, but the Emperor keeps calling him "uncle", which baffles me.
Well, that was one hell of an unsatisfying makjang mess, brilliantly acted, with incredible chemistry between the leads and nice OST, but a mess nevertheless. The opposite of tightly plotted, with all tropes imaginable and million side plots thrown in, without the main story and characters being properly developed, and lacking even a semblance of basic logic. Utterly disappointing, even more so because it had such a huge potential, which ended up being wasted. The focus should have been on fixing the main OTPs relationship; there were so many ways to develop that relationship, especially with KJW and KSH, such acting powerhouses, as the leads.
I don´t know about Germany but in most European countries there are visiting hours for anybody to visit the paitent,…
She is in ICU. It's right after the operation. The doctors know she has most likely lost her memory and that she is vulnerable, they wouldn't let a stranger in. It's even likely they wouldn't let anyone in. I'm from Europe and have friends in Germany.
No hospital would let ES in Haein's room. Even if he showed them a fake marriage certificate or a document of guardianship, the hospital knows Hyunwoo is her husband & guardian since he's been acting in her stead & been by her side the whole time while her memories were intact. The hospital would be the first to find it suspicious and called cops on him. Come on, writer, I thought you were smarter than this.
I think there is a completely sound logic here - it's the same as when Rain worked so hard to submit his homework…
Like I said, there is no one else. All his friends are busy, it would jeopardise them submitting their homework before deadline, Rain's parents are hundreds and thousands miles away respectively. There is no one else, but Prapai. Rain is out of options here, especially after Sky rejected staying at the hospital, an option that would be best for him and everyone else. Rain is in a desperate situation so he takes desperation measures and choose the only choice available to him. Sky might want nothing to do with him but this is not about Sky's feelings, this is about his wellbeing, his health, maybe even his life, so Rain chooses to trust Pai because he is Payu's best friend and Payu trusts him unconditionally.
In the end, it's the only logical option available, how could he asks his friends to do something, he himself can't? Drive across the whole Bangkok, get stuck in the traffic and risk missing and important deadline. Besides, those other friends aren't Sky's best friend, he is.
Also, it's two relatively short paragraphs which answered your question - no one other than Pai was available.
sometimes I realize I can't be bothered by the logic of BL's... lol... so you're sky's best friend but you can't…
I think there is a completely sound logic here - it's the same as when Rain worked so hard to submit his homework on time. Deadlines are ruthless and professors don't forgive them unless you have a written excuse from a doctor. Rain literally said that he would have stayed with Sky but he left his homework at Payu's house so he would need to drive across Bangkok to get there and back again. The traffic is heavy and terrible he would have lost hours, stuck in it, being unable to finish his homework and we already saw in previous episodes how it gutted him and the consequences of missing a deadline. Moreover, Sky would never forgive himself if Rain got an F because of him.
The same goes for his other friends, they simply don't have the time. Besides, it was Sky's fault he refused to stay at the hospital where he would have been properly taken care of by doctors so there is no need to blame his friends for it. They are his friends not his keepers and they don't live exactly next door. Bangkok is huge.
Lady Jin isn't your typical mage, she is a priestess, as strong as Bu-yeon. She controls divine powers and can…
No, that is not a speculation but a fact. Cho-yeon literally spelled it out - that they are priestesses wielding divine powers and able to trap and manipulate souls - and the audience saw Bu-yeon manipulate the soul-shifting according to her will at several occasions. Those are facts. But then, if actual facts spelled out on screen even for the people in the back haven't convinced you, then probably nothing will.
I'm again raising a question why the heck the villains had to go through this elaborate fake Bu-Yeon plan instead…
Lady Jin isn't your typical mage, she is a priestess, as strong as Bu-yeon. She controls divine powers and can trap souls, Bu-yeon had made Naksu soul-shift inside her and blocked her powers, she also prevented Wook from getting soul-shifted. It would be near impossible to soul-shift Lady Jin against her will because the priestesses of the Jin family wield over power which allows them to resist soul-shifting unless they themselves desire it.
I saw many comments on Tiktok, Twitter and Facebook. And I was like are we even watching the same show guys?!…
More like hilarious, considering the previews are usually so misleading and there are so many mysteries to uncover that no one does even know what's going to happen in the next episode. And now, these 'experts' claim they know what's going to happen in Part 2 which has barely started production.
Regarding the rumours about Jung So Min 's appearance in Part2, just a remainder that Kit Harington had spent a year claiming Jon Snow was dead and he was not coming back for GoT Season 6.
Those who master soul shifting can also shift other's soul to different bodies, like Jang Gang had done with the…
No, the only ones who could or can perform soul shifting have been the founder of Songrim, Jang Gang, Jin Mu (who was taught it by JG) and Naksu (whom JM taught). The others soul shifters were created by Jin Mu. As I mentioned those who can perform soul shifting can shift the souls of others without shifting their own soul.
There may be another person we don't know about yet, but the number of people who can perform soul shifting is very limited.
Question - How many people have mastered Jipsu, Ryusu, Chisu and Hwansu? I thought in episode 4 I heard Heo Yeom…
Those who master soul shifting can also shift other's soul to different bodies, like Jang Gang had done with the man at the beginning of episode 1 or how Jin Mu shifted Jang Gang's soul back to his body.
People should stop panicking about the 'low' rating. The MDL rating counter needs a week or two after the premiere to reflect the actual rating. If you hover over the rating with your cursor, you will see that the people currently watching the drama have given it a 8,72 rating.
it's not just this drama where there is such violent behavior normalised and used for comical effect from those…
I agree. But the problem is, as I mentioned before, that you can't separate the well-written parts of her character from the badly written ones because, at the end of the day, it's the writers who create the character as a whole. And she beats Thyme so often and so violently that at this point it isn't a random thing and it should be viewed as an inherent part of her personality. It's so sad because it ruins her character and development - she's been such an amazing heroine - and diminishes the quality of the entire show.
Thyme had started as a flawed person overcoming his deficiencies and maturing, but while Gorya has been shown to have flaws the writers almost never portray them as flaws, she grows very little as a character which makes the relationship and her character lopsided and unsatisfying.
Gorya kicks Thyme in his balls which makes him writhe in pain, punches his face so hard it send him stumbling and flying, and then she throws him on the bed and proceeds to pin him down. It’s disturbing and terrible behaviour and also abysmal writing.
She is obviously not pulling her punches. Even as an isolated incident this would be horrible in any relationship but this is only another violent episode in a series of Gorya going postal on Thyme. And she is getting more brutal each time. The worst thing about this is that it hasn’t been portrayed as something negative but played out for comic relief instead almost each time, including this. The crew put it even into the BTS video as if it were something worth seeing from different angles and ‘laughing’ about it again. At this point, Gorya beats Thyme in almost every episodes at least once that it pretty much has become a tradition.
No other HYD adaptation had the female lead beat the male lead on regular (either daily or weekly) basis, not even the manga at its most exaggerated manga-like moments.
There is literally no outcry about these scenes from the audience compared to when Thyme almost hit Gorya but stopped himself in episode 7. Just imagine their roles were reversed - Thyme would kick Gorya’s breasts (her most vulnerable part), punch her face so hard it send her flying so far that she would knock down a vase and then he would throw her to bed and pin her down to it. Would it still be OK? No. It wouldn’t be even if he did one of those things. So no, this is not a funny scene, this is a scene of domestic violence.
Whenever Thyme became violent in the past it was always shown as negative and uncomfortable, he had been an abusive bully who went on a redemption arc, but he has never laid his hand on Gorya, be it in anger or in any other instance. She was emotionally cruel to him in the past, falsely accused him of wrongdoings and physically attacked him so Thyme had reasons to defend himself but he never has. Even now, he is only taking the punches even though he has superior physical strength and could subdue her any time.
There are also moments when Thyme seriously expects Gorya to attack him with a knife and when she is ready to attack him with a hanger and all of these occur in his own house. And Gorya never apologises for her mistakes which is in such a stark contrast to when the writers have Thyme apologising to all his victims and to Gorya pretty much on daily basis even for things that aren’t his fault.
The writing of these moments is awful on so many different levels - it’s illogical, it ruins the entire narrative and Gorya’s character, and showing a character regularly being physically violent to her lover is genuinely terrible behaviour.
Such writing portrays Gorya as a complete hypocrite who preaches about hating violent people but instead of talking things out or leaving she regularly beats the man she claims to love on regularly basis. She accuses him of ‘doing something dirty’ to her and ‘wanting to take advantage of her’ and then she throws him to the bed and pins him down there herself. And Thyme is there lying, using his hands as a cover to protect himself.
Not only isn’t Gorya’s violent behaviour shown as wrong, it keeps getting worse. How can anyone explain this scene? Even if she felt uncomfortable, despite the fact Thyme never even tried to kiss her, never tried to touch her without her permission and that the only physically abusive person in this relationship is her, the normal thing would be to just leave or ask him and talk it out. And that’s the whole problem - Gorya always throws her fists at Thyme first and goes on a violent rampage instead of trying to understand him and communicate with him, and it’s never portrayed as disturbing or wrong, or her flaw or fault. Over the time, Thyme has literally become Gorya’s punching bag.
Gorya beat Thyme when he was on his sick bed. Yes, he was not dead or dying but he was badly hurt and she could have hurt him even more.
Audience can judge a character only by what they see on screen and Gorya clearly has anger management issues and violent tendencies. The writers portray her as mature and loving most of the times but with Thyme she becomes irrational and violent. She doesn’t beat anyone else except for him - be it her family or friends. She always trusts strangers blindly but always assumes the worst of Thyme, the man who has been proving himself to her and never let her down.
The writers must have gotten high on some drugs while writing these scenes because they are written so terribly that at this point the only way to enjoy the show is to selectively forget these scene hampering Gorya’s character exist because the rest of the drama is pretty much awesome. However, it’s impossible to do that because there are so many of them and play quite a substantial role in the story.
Just because they are fluffy you label them as garbage? 🙄🙄🙄
Not once have I mentioned in my post the word 'fluffy'. That's you putting words into my mouth that I have never said/wrote here. A drama can be fluffy and still have well-rounded characters with flaws who argue and have a believable chemistry between them and compeling conflict - Bad Buddy and Dali and the Cocky Prince are good examples. I don't dislike and criticize the shows I mentioned in my previous comment because they are fluffy but because they have terrible writing and characters who are nothing but caricatures of real people.
Finally a Japanese Bl drama with realistic characters with actual character flaws, believable relationship development, OTP chemistry and compelling conflict after all the 'wholesome, functional and healthy' garbage like Kieta Hatsukoi or Cherry Magic where the main characters don't get angry at each other nor do they argue because they are so 'perfect and fuctional' they are above such 'toxic and problematic emotions' and instead conduct their romantic relationship with the maturity of 6th graders which makes them as believable as Prince Charming.
Its Kdramaland what do you expect? Reality lol they stereotype their own people let alone foreigners, although…
Then, are you going to pay them those hundred thousands, maybe even a million, of dollars, to authentically portray them?
Futhermore, the purpose was to show people who are snobs and obsessed with money and status because those character traits alone are something to be made fun of to begin with, therefore the caricaturization of those rich foreign characters was on point. They didn't portray them that way just because they didn't care, it was on purpose.
Finally, considering there is quite a lot of people who genuinely thought this was shot in Netherlands, the question above being a perfect example, they've done one hell of a good job at portraying Netherlands with the limited resources they had and covid restrictions .
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The focus should have been on fixing the main OTPs relationship; there were so many ways to develop that relationship, especially with KJW and KSH, such acting powerhouses, as the leads.
I'm from Europe and have friends in Germany.
In the end, it's the only logical option available, how could he asks his friends to do something, he himself can't? Drive across the whole Bangkok, get stuck in the traffic and risk missing and important deadline. Besides, those other friends aren't Sky's best friend, he is.
Also, it's two relatively short paragraphs which answered your question - no one other than Pai was available.
The same goes for his other friends, they simply don't have the time. Besides, it was Sky's fault he refused to stay at the hospital where he would have been properly taken care of by doctors so there is no need to blame his friends for it. They are his friends not his keepers and they don't live exactly next door. Bangkok is huge.
So, I would say it makes perfect sense.
I think the only people who had mastered Hwansu were the two people mentioned by master Heo, with Jang Wook potentially being the next one.
There may be another person we don't know about yet, but the number of people who can perform soul shifting is very limited.
Thyme had started as a flawed person overcoming his deficiencies and maturing, but while Gorya has been shown to have flaws the writers almost never portray them as flaws, she grows very little as a character which makes the relationship and her character lopsided and unsatisfying.
She is obviously not pulling her punches. Even as an isolated incident this would be horrible in any relationship but this is only another violent episode in a series of Gorya going postal on Thyme. And she is getting more brutal each time. The worst thing about this is that it hasn’t been portrayed as something negative but played out for comic relief instead almost each time, including this. The crew put it even into the BTS video as if it were something worth seeing from different angles and ‘laughing’ about it again. At this point, Gorya beats Thyme in almost every episodes at least once that it pretty much has become a tradition.
No other HYD adaptation had the female lead beat the male lead on regular (either daily or weekly) basis, not even the manga at its most exaggerated manga-like moments.
There is literally no outcry about these scenes from the audience compared to when Thyme almost hit Gorya but stopped himself in episode 7. Just imagine their roles were reversed - Thyme would kick Gorya’s breasts (her most vulnerable part), punch her face so hard it send her flying so far that she would knock down a vase and then he would throw her to bed and pin her down to it. Would it still be OK? No. It wouldn’t be even if he did one of those things. So no, this is not a funny scene, this is a scene of domestic violence.
Whenever Thyme became violent in the past it was always shown as negative and uncomfortable, he had been an abusive bully who went on a redemption arc, but he has never laid his hand on Gorya, be it in anger or in any other instance. She was emotionally cruel to him in the past, falsely accused him of wrongdoings and physically attacked him so Thyme had reasons to defend himself but he never has. Even now, he is only taking the punches even though he has superior physical strength and could subdue her any time.
There are also moments when Thyme seriously expects Gorya to attack him with a knife and when she is ready to attack him with a hanger and all of these occur in his own house. And Gorya never apologises for her mistakes which is in such a stark contrast to when the writers have Thyme apologising to all his victims and to Gorya pretty much on daily basis even for things that aren’t his fault.
The writing of these moments is awful on so many different levels - it’s illogical, it ruins the entire narrative and Gorya’s character, and showing a character regularly being physically violent to her lover is genuinely terrible behaviour.
Such writing portrays Gorya as a complete hypocrite who preaches about hating violent people but instead of talking things out or leaving she regularly beats the man she claims to love on regularly basis. She accuses him of ‘doing something dirty’ to her and ‘wanting to take advantage of her’ and then she throws him to the bed and pins him down there herself. And Thyme is there lying, using his hands as a cover to protect himself.
Not only isn’t Gorya’s violent behaviour shown as wrong, it keeps getting worse. How can anyone explain this scene? Even if she felt uncomfortable, despite the fact Thyme never even tried to kiss her, never tried to touch her without her permission and that the only physically abusive person in this relationship is her, the normal thing would be to just leave or ask him and talk it out. And that’s the whole problem - Gorya always throws her fists at Thyme first and goes on a violent rampage instead of trying to understand him and communicate with him, and it’s never portrayed as disturbing or wrong, or her flaw or fault. Over the time, Thyme has literally become Gorya’s punching bag.
Gorya beat Thyme when he was on his sick bed. Yes, he was not dead or dying but he was badly hurt and she could have hurt him even more.
Audience can judge a character only by what they see on screen and Gorya clearly has anger management issues and violent tendencies. The writers portray her as mature and loving most of the times but with Thyme she becomes irrational and violent. She doesn’t beat anyone else except for him - be it her family or friends. She always trusts strangers blindly but always assumes the worst of Thyme, the man who has been proving himself to her and never let her down.
The writers must have gotten high on some drugs while writing these scenes because they are written so terribly that at this point the only way to enjoy the show is to selectively forget these scene hampering Gorya’s character exist because the rest of the drama is pretty much awesome. However, it’s impossible to do that because there are so many of them and play quite a substantial role in the story.
Futhermore, the purpose was to show people who are snobs and obsessed with money and status because those character traits alone are something to be made fun of to begin with, therefore the caricaturization of those rich foreign characters was on point. They didn't portray them that way just because they didn't care, it was on purpose.
Finally, considering there is quite a lot of people who genuinely thought this was shot in Netherlands, the question above being a perfect example, they've done one hell of a good job at portraying Netherlands with the limited resources they had and covid restrictions .