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He did not say her name in episode 1 when he saw her at the car with Issei. You should check again. He learned her name when Yoshitora send him her information when Hayame was about to start to work at the inn in episode 1.

I didn't misread your post. I don't really see a power imbalance because Hayame doesn't have some huge edge over Issei. She might be more experienced in some ways but as seen on her divorce situation (where he was the adult one in the way he pushed her to deal with the situation) but he has his own brand of maturity, own type of experience that she doesn't have. I would see it as a difference like any other in a relationship - which is a bond between two different people who will always have different kind of experience and maturity and not all maturity comes hand-in-hand with age. The vast majority of divorces is between people who are very close in age, it's their inability to bridge their differences and make compromises which cause the relationship to fail (I'm talking in general not including reasons like physical abuse and that like). Age is not a reason for breakup, it's merely an excuse.

As for dating, dating is not marriage. Dating is not a goal to achieve and a reward which one receives for becoming an adult. Teenagers date as young as 14 maybe even less. Dating is the process where people meet each other, spend time with each other, get to know each other better, test whether they are compatible both physically and in character without it neccessary becoming sexual. It's a process through which a relationship matures so taking that away from Issei just because he is a few months from becoming 18 and Hayame is 27 is unfair, it would be taking away his opportunity to grow up and becoming the man Hayame needs.

You see, this is what I referred to in my previous post - if Hayame were just a teenager or, let say, 20, none of this would be an issue because it would be just two teenagers dating. But in the end, it's all the same - two people dating to find out whether they are compatible.

As for Seigo, he himself fell for Hayame when he was 17. He can see that Issei is attracted to her and what he finds strange, and logically so, is that she would stay with strangers and refuse to move away when he gives her a way out. It would be interesting to know what was the age difference between his parents because when people grow up with parents or other couple in their family that has a bigger age difference between them, they don't find it strange. Also, his grandmother is having quite a dating life in the ripe age of 78 and is quite open-minded and eccentric (she even allowed her own son to marry a commoner hostess even though they are a high-class family therefore they are not a family which suffers from prejudices and bias be it social station or age), so it's not that surprising that Seigo would genuinely wonder whether Hayame is interested in his younger brother.

But if they asked him if he liked a 17-year-old girl from his school it would be OK? Why? In the end, it's the same thing. It's not illegal to like, kiss or date someone older. It's illegal to have sex with someone below the age of consent and that's definitely not happening in the story.

It's clear he is not being groomed or taken advantage of by Hayame, on the contrary, she has a positive effect on him as he is becoming more mature and less rebellious because of her so there is a legitimate and logical reason to actively support the relationship.

Also, they both live and sleep under the purview of his grandmother who is clearly open-minded herself and sees that her grandson is finally becoming better after 10 years of rebellion, when nothing else worked, because of Hayame.

LOL! I don't see that happening. The manga has 10+ volumes and Issei/Hayame are pretty much on every cover. Just from it, it's obvious which couple is the endgame.

From Five to Nine,
Love Shuffle,
Kurosaki-kun no Iinari ni Nante Naranai (2 special episodes + a movie),
Pin to Kona,
Proposal Daisakusen,
Suki na Hito ga Iru Koto,
Nobunaga Concerto,
Nodame Cantabile,
Rich Man Poor Woman,
Nobuta Wo Produce,
Hanazakari no Kimitachi e,
Hana Yori Dango,
Long Vacation

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People don't think and act logically in these sort of situations. They are overwhelmed. She left because she wanted to run away - get away from that situation, avoid dealing with it at that moment because it was too much. She left immediately and didn't stay long enough to discuss it with the husband farther so obviously, she hasn't divorced him yet, she didn't have time to sign the divorce papers.

Episode 2 shows that she doesn't pick up the husband's calls. She still hasn't accepted what happened and is afraid facing the situation. In a way she probably thinks that the husband may change his mind considering how she was ready to forgive him.

She left because she is fiercely proud and independent. Those are her main character traits. I suspect it has something to do with her family and past which is shrouded in mystery.

You disagree with my opinion and that's fine with me but I think you take the word "series" too literally. As you mentioned, only one episode is out so when I say "series" of course I mean episode 1 I think most people understand that I mean by it only that one episode since it's normal meronymy. Most people don't assume that I somehow hacked the production company and watched the remaining 10+ episodes. Also, there is no saying that my opinion won't change after more episodes.

I read this opinion often that you shouldn't judge a series based on one or only few episodes or before it ends. But then there would be no point for this comment section or we wouldn't be talking about ongoing shows, novel series or comics at all. I mean, there are many comments here loving the series based on that one episode, literally using the word "series" and saying how good it is so far. Shouldn't you comment on their posts with a similar reply - that they shouldn't judge the series based on one episode? Just because my reaction is negative doesn't mean it's any less relevant.

Also, are you saying that a negative opinion doesn't have a place in this comment section? Do you think that people go in these comment sections to only share their enjoyment of the shows they watch? Sometimes I wish that were true but I think you haven't been to many MDL comment sections.

I don't need to review it since I wrote it. In my post I criticize an opinion and behaviour of certain group of people, not launching a personal attack on them and their private lives. You should know the difference but judging from your previous comment you don't so any further discussion with you is pointless.

Edit: I wasn't attacking the person who posted the links but the authors of those articles and the ones creating and promoting those labels. If you actually read my post carefully instead of getting triggered and making assumptions based on your own bias you would have realized it.

My watchlist is a result of 15 years of watching Asian dramas and movies and rarely watching Western ones. I'm not a disgruntled author. I have my own life, family and friends. However, I think your comment says a lot about you - it's perfectly normal to disagree with someone else's opinion but instead of disagreeing with my opinion, you are simply attacking my person based purely on the number of shows on my watchlist. The writer and stories are not toxic because in the end they are only fiction, but it's people like you who are really toxic. You are attacking real people not fictional characters.

This series is such a mess. It's superficial to its core and relying on throwing uninformed seemingly cool shade on BL industry under the guise of being woke, catering to a particular audience that is suffering under the illusion that they have some sort of moral high ground and love to bash BL writers while having absolutely no problem consuming their stories and toxicly shipping actors in real life, not giving a damn how negatively it affects their private lives.

The writing of the series fails at the most important thing - giving screentime to the development of its characters. It's normal that the first episodes sometimes drawn themselves in way too much exposition but they usually establish certain emotional depth and motivation to one of its leading characters at the very least, but episode 1 of LW didn't show any of that. Its main characters are flat and one-dimensional caricatures of real people.

The editing is a mess, the acting is mediocre at best, the music and sound effects are awful. The only decent thing about the show is the camera and I would say the directing but considering that in these independent productions it is the writer and director who are in charge of editing as well I have to say even the directing is a failure.

Actually, there are two or three moments which the series gets right about the BL industry (probably unwittingly) but no one is actually talking about them. One of them being the moment Gene is being introduced to the director at the casting. He is a bestselling author but no one knows what he looks like or who he really is. He is not famous. Just imagine that people wouldn't know how J.K. Rowling or Tolkien looked like. And that's the real problem of BL industry - everyone cares about the actors and talks about how amazing they are, how they ship them both in the series and real live, but no one gives a damn about the writer who created the whole fictional world and gave them the opportunities. The only time people talk about the writer is to bash him or her, usually her because to certain audience being a female BL writer is the worst heresy there can be in this toxic hypocratical fandom.

Mr. Queen did not merely fail at narrative storytelling, but, most importantly, it failed at what it aimed to be and supposed to be from the start - an adaptation. I doesn’t matter whether it’s an adaptation of the original novel or Go Princess Go (as the tvN team admitted after the backlash over the novel’s author presumed anti-korean sentiments) because both the novel and the cdrama had the king falling in love with the time-traveling and transmigrating man from the future and not with the original princess’s soul. The cdrama had three different endings and in all of them they were the endgame, including one where both protagonists met in the future as men. Also, if a cdrama beats you at representation, you know you messed up.

It’s completely normal to employ creative licence when adapting a story but every decent adaption keeps the main plot point, message and storyline of the original intact. However, Mr. Queen completely disregards it - it’s even more glaring because it only has one. It’s as if a production company made adaptations of Pride & Prejudice or Lord of the Rings where Mr. Darcy would marry Jane Bennet and Aragorn were the one to destroy the one ring. Such changes would simply destroy everything the original authors intented and built up in their storytelling and such an adaption would suffer both critical and public backlash as a result.

Just look at the partial ratings of kdramas that have the 8,7-8,9 overall rating (like Weightlifting Fairy, Descendants of the Sun or Goblin) and compare it with the partial ratings of TharnType, SOTUS, Together with Me or even I Told the Sunset about You. The difference between their ratings and the sheer unfairness of it is glaring and undeniable.

This is a perfect example of toxic labelling and exclusion. There is no such thing as a difference between BL and LGBTQ. In the end, they both feature love stories between men. There is no such labelling in heterosexual love stories - no such thing as "low/high" genre label. The only correct label is ROMANCE. Anyone who makes the difference between LGBTQ/BL genre or yaoi/BL is just someone who is pushing their own questionable moral high ground, "superior"opinion and narrative on the issue.

Never trust the "overall" ratings or raking on this website. A year ago TharnType had 8,9 and while the partially ratings barelly changed, its overall ranking went down to 8,2. The ratings here are manipulated and downgraded regularly. There is no transparency to it. The system is rigged in favour of kdramas especially.

Frankly, the moment I notice someone calling a show problematic it's the moment I immediately take interest in it because nowadays what people call "problematic" is basically realistic portrayal of life with its complexities and negative aspects because no one and no relationship are perfect.

Don't worry. You are not in your little corner. A majority of people love this show. They just don't bother venturing among the toxic people who usually gather in this comment section or on MDL CS in general which is basically the gathering place of TharnType haters (that's not to say that there are not some good comments but they are in the minority which makes it not worth the bother). Just go to Twitter or Tumblr if you're looking for intelligent and informed TharnType audience.

I rarely even scroll down to the comment section here because let's face it, it's one of the most toxic places filled with unadultered stupidity and hate or blind love. It's the people who spread hate here who are toxic, not the series.

MDL is amazing at what it is called - a database which is perfect for making your personal list of the movies and series you watch. Nothing more, nothing less. When I pick a new show to watch, I do so based on trailers, summaries, actors, and posters, never on some questionable "overall ratings", which are made by some shady systems or artificial modifications, or comments of people I never heard of before and who don't know me or my taste. I can make my own decision and opinion.

This is true definition of a spin-off:
"In genre fiction, the term parallels the usage in television; it is usually meant to indicate a substantial change in narrative viewpoint and activity from that (previous) storyline based on the activities of the series' principal protagonist and so is a shift to that action and overall narrative thread of some other protagonist, which now becomes the central or main thread (storyline) of the new sub-series. The new protagonist generally appears first as a minor or supporting character in the main story line within a given milieu, and it is very common for the previous protagonist to have a supporting or cameo role, at the least as a historical mention, in the new sub-series."

It changes narrative viewpoint from the main protagonist to a different character. It doesn't change the canon story which is something Bamboo Forest does. The events in BF are canon,

To prove my point what a spin-off is, WandaVision is an Avengers spinoff. Spinoffs shift the POV, they don't go against their parent stories.

So it really are your brain cells that are lacking.