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wait who cheated

Haha can’t blame you. A lot was happening in the last ep.

thank you for explaining!!

All though the last two eps were a let down, this drama still kept me hooked. For me, this drama was like a treat after watching all the botched dramas with messy plots being released this year of this genre. It could have been better but I still thoroughly enjoyed it.

That kid was saved by the main lead in the chaotic shooting scene that happened in last ep

can you lmk the reason behind this

The parents themselves are so flawed, they keep creating more “defective” offsprings. This butch body b is pointing fingers at everyone but herself. She is the definition of imperfection, how can she expect her “daughters” that she raised herself to be perfect?

This!!!!
I feel the exact same about thier whole dynamics

Hey, just to clarify — it’s not just about not having a lesbian romance. It’s about the consistent pattern of erasing queer elements from source material, especially when they’re central to the story. People aren’t saying there’s a conspiracy, but it is fair to question why queer stories keep getting rewritten to center straight narratives. You can enjoy music and acting and still want respectful representation — the two aren’t mutually exclusive.Calling people’s frustrations a “victim mindset” is dismissive and harmful. Wanting respectful and accurate representation isn’t about victimhood — it’s about visibility, dignity, and fairness. Marginalized people speaking up about consistent exclusion isn’t playing the victim; it’s demanding better. If you’re more upset about people asking for representation than the erasure itself, maybe ask yourself why.

No worries, I didn’t expect reading comprehension to be your strong suit anyway. Take care, darling. 💖

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. While I can see you’ve invested a great deal of passion into your arguments, I’ll gently point out that volume doesn’t equal clarity, nor does moral certainty equal moral superiority.

It’s interesting that you accuse others of being intolerant while simultaneously framing any disagreement with your worldview as a form of oppression. That’s a bold move — and one that doesn’t quite land, considering you're the one insisting certain perspectives shouldn't be spoken or even speculated upon unless they align with your own.

People interpret stories through their lived experiences, their identities, and yes — sometimes their hopes for better representation. That isn’t a threat to your existence. But reacting to it as if it is, kind of underscores the very discomfort you claim not to have.

No one is stopping you from disliking shipping culture or from speaking your mind. But if you post strong opinions in a public space, expect strong opinions in return. That’s not oppression. That’s just what dialogue looks like.

Lastly, if you're going to frame yourself as the "silent" side, you might want to reflect on why your monologue spans several hundred words and touches every square inch of your worldview. Silence isn’t the issue here. Volume, maybe.

Still — I wish you peace, and I hope one day you’ll learn that not every disagreement is an attack, and not every difference is a threat.

Here’s a thought: if you’re this bothered just because people interpret emotional closeness between two men as possibly romantic, maybe ask yourself why it hits such a nerve. Because honestly, that kind of knee-jerk defensiveness says a lot more about you than it does about the people asking.

No one is stopping you from enjoying platonic friendship. No one’s saying every male bond must be romantic. But when you act like it’s some kind of crime to even wonder if two men might love each other — in a world where queer stories are still rare, censored, or buried in subtext — you're not “defending friendship.” You're just being dismissive.

Let’s not pretend this is about “confusion.” If the exact same dynamic was between a man and a woman….people would be yelling “they’re in love!” without a second thought. But when it’s two men? Suddenly it’s “ugh, stop thinking they are gay.”

And while we’re at it: stop acting like “BL” automatically means sexual. It doesn’t. BL is about romantic connection between men — emotional, psychological, sometimes yes, physical — just like any other love story. How is this mocking or an insult to anyone? The fact that you instantly reduce it to sex says more about your own assumptions than it does about the genre or the people asking about it.

Calling it “BL-crazy” or mocking people for looking for queer subtext is lazy and ignorant. Just say you’re uncomfortable with anything that isn’t straight and go. You don’t get to police what others see, especially when queer people have had to scrape for the tiniest bit of representation for decades. That curiosity? That hunger for possibility? It exists because we've been denied open representation for so long.

You can love platonic friendship without acting threatened every time someone else sees something romantic. The problem isn’t that people interpret things differently — the problem is your over-the-top, almost hostile reaction to the idea of queerness. That’s what really needs checking. You want to enjoy bromance, great — then let others enjoy it however they interpret it. “Making it all gay” ????????You just refuse to see anything outside straight norms. Two men getting close? Some might see love. You see a threat in that. Ask yourself why that is. ‘Making everything gay’ is just code for ‘I’m uncomfortable with anything that isn’t centered around straight people.’

Let’s actually clear the air then — because what you're doing here isn’t about “clearing confusion.” It’s about shutting people down for daring to ask if there’s queer representation. That’s the real issue.

No one is confused about what BL means. People are just asking if there’s something romantic between two male characters — the same way people constantly speculate about romance when it’s a man and a woman, often with way less emotional depth. But that never seems to bother anyone, does it?

What is weird is the way you’re practically yelling “THERE’S NO HOMOSEXUALS!!” like it’s a crime to wonder otherwise. If someone asked if there’s a straight love story, I doubt you'd write a whole paragraph defensively “clarifying” it. So ask yourself — why are you so pressed when the question is about gay romance?

You say you “have no idea” why people ask. Really? Maybe because queer people exist. Maybe because they have grown up with little to no representation and learned to look for it wherever they could. Maybe because emotional intimacy between men is so rarely shown that when it is, people wonder if it means more. That’s not confusing — that’s human.

So if you want to love a good bromance, go ahead. But acting like people are somehow ruining it just by asking a question? That says a lot more about your own discomfort than anything else.

I just wanna add something to your perspective. Hope you don’t take this as an offensive comment. You say the show is doing well "as a stand-alone creation," but that only works if you ignore the context: it’s a queer story based on a queer manhwa, centered around a queer couple. So when nearly every episode spends more time exploring the straight couple’s chemistry, conflict, and growth than it does with the actual main characters, the criticism isn’t just valid — it’s necessary. You checked that it is only 4 to 5 mins of straight couple screen time? Go check again. It is also about the development in their story.
People are bothered because they’re hogging the screen in a story where they’re supposed to be secondary. If a BL drama sidelines its queer leads to spotlight a straight romance, that’s not just bad adaptation — it’s a systemic issue. It’s not about “who you like,” it’s about erasure and misrepresentation.
Also, calling Heesu’s development “good” just because he’s slowly getting over someone doesn't excuse the lack of depth in his relationship with Seungwon. Emotional pacing isn’t the same as relationship building. Viewers are asking for actual substance: meaningful moments, intimacy, conversations, growth — the kind the straight couple is getting by default.
People invested time, emotion, and hope into this “adaptation” because queer stories are so rare and often mistreated. Saying “just drop it” completely misses the point. Why should queer fans have to settle or disappear to make space for more of the same straight romance we see everywhere else?
So no, this isn’t about “screen time math” — it’s about what the story promised, what it prioritized, and who it’s actually centered around. If that still feels hard to grasp, we can talk more about this.

And in this case no one should invalidate someone’s criticism because this story caters to their preference and they are “okay” with this. I have seen so many korean bl’s having straight side couple and not one infuriated me. Because those stories were marketed as bl’s and lived upto it. None of them had straight romance in our faces when it was about a queer story. I will spell it out in case someone still cannot see the problem, this story is about two guys falling in love and i want to embrace their love story. I will appreciate a SIDE love story too, but not when it is in my face for 30 minutes, all i want to see is the actual main couple and how their relationship progresses. I wouldn’t be this mad, if they had given them equal screen time in SIX EPISODES OUT OF TEN EPISODES.

And also most of the straight romance kdramas has SIXTEEN 1 hour long episodes, so thats why they cannot focus solely on the main couple. Comparing that to bl, when we have been getting TEN 40 minute episodes is pointless. I would have tolerated it, if we got to see development between actual main couple first and in last few episodes, the side couple’s story. I wish you just take a step back and see why “a bunch of fujoshis” are bothered by this.

This isn’t about tolerance for straight pairing—it’s about narrative priorities and representation. No one said we wanted 40 minutes of hand-holding and longing stares—we’re asking for equal emotional investment and screentime. Newsflash: nobody is mad that straight people exist—we’re mad that in a QUEER story, the queer couple is being sidelined for yet another copy-paste hetero romance that we’ve seen in 300 dramas already. Y’all act like asking for actual development and depth for the main couple is equivalent to wanting 40 minutes of fanservice and forehead kisses. It’s not.

This show is getting or should be getting the criticism it deserves. Just because you as a non bl fan or whatever you like to call yourself is okay with straight couple overshadowing THE MAIN QUEER COUPLE IN A QUEER STORY, doesn’t mean everyone should be. Don’t be like “Im a bl fan but i like straight couple” I don’t care. This is not about you liking the straight couple. This is about them overshadowing queer couple in a queer story. This wouldn’t be happening in a straight series. Its a queer story, bl fan or not, people have the right to criticise because it is sad how we are more than half way into the series and all im seeing is basic ass couple with same straight kdrama romance plot taking more than half of the screen time. I want to learn more about the queer couple, their back stories, their interests, their dynamics and not some side character’s tennis sob story. People have appreciated the manhwa and waited for the adaptation to come see this disappointment. This is such a simple perspective, idk why y’all are having a hard time seeing it. We are NOT saying straight couple is bad or we hate them, we are saying they are overshadowing the main couple in a queer story which is truly disappointing. THERE ARE SO MANY STRAIGHT ROMANCE DRAMAS, and now when we are getting queer dramas, this happens. I would have no issue with this if the original plot was Mr tennis boy and Miss nonchalant famous girl’s love story and the queer couple were a side characters. But its not, and that infuriates me. The recent bl manhwa adaptation without the bl aspect also made me furious. Like why is everyone so scared of showing love between two people.

well said.