On second watch: Sexy, a little kinky, sweet, and romantic. In its comical way, one of the most true-to-life representations of young gay male desire in BL.
My parents didn’t drink, and I don’t drink. I know other people who weren’t drinkers. People can just be…
Is this addressed to me? Because I never said people can't be happy with non-alcoholic beverages, and I never said KTO was self-righteous. I said certain people in this thread are self-righteous.
You're not telling me anything I haven't known all my life about booze, and your and your family's drinking habits are irrelevant to this discussion. I have not, in any of my comments, promoted or discouraged drinking, one way or the other. Please learn to read what's in front of you on the screen, not what you imagine to be there.
I'm going to quote myself from my comment above to which you seem to be responding: "This isn't mainly about drinking or not drinking. It's about people like this guy living in terror that any sign of imperfection will end his career and potentially his life. We have no idea what he does in the privacy of his home. Maybe he has a cocktail or two, maybe he gets shit-faced now and then, maybe he never drinks. Whatever, it's none of our business."
Do you really just accept as gospel anything a celeb or their agency says in public?
Meaning he's had the fear of god pounded into him by the Korean Press and Public Suicide Machine, and he's afraid…
If that's the life he truly "chooses," independent of the Korean Celebrity Suicide Machine, that's fine, that's great, that's wonderful. If he's afraid to leave his house or look at someone the wrong way because of Korea's pscyho celeb culture, that sucks. And from the sound of his answers in this stupid article, that is exactly what's going on.
Do you believe everything celebs and their management say? In Korea, of all places? A country that will throw you in jail for smoking a joint while you're IN ANOTHER COUNTRY?
Two things: 1. The fact that you feel a few paragraphs constitute an "essay," only reveals your intellectual laziness. Oh, and you could choose to, I don't know, not read my essays. 2. I am "so bothered" by this article because I am sick to death of Korean celebrities being hounded to their deaths by Korean purity culture and the media. That you aren't bothered by that says what it says about you. You're part of the problem.
Koh incessantly calls Jira long after he's been told not to.Koh stalks Jira and shows up at his apartment long…
Give me a break.
You directly compared one to the other: "...say what you will about koh but he's straightforward. pheem is obsessive and a liar." In other words, Koh is straightforward, while Pheem is the obsessive and lying one.
Here, I'll help: "Koh and Pheem are both obsessive liars, but at least Koh is straightforward about it."
See? That wasn't so hard.
No, I'm not "upset." That's you attempting to minimize my objections by attributing them to over-emotion. YOU seem upset, and I do know why.
Reading all the self-righteous, "I never drink either" comments from Puritanical MDL Church Ladies below is both hilarious and sad.
This isn't mainly about drinking or not drinking. It's about people like this guy living in terror that any sign of imperfection will end his career and potentially his life.
We have no idea what he does in the privacy of his home. Maybe he has a cocktail or two, maybe he gets shit-faced now and then, maybe he never drinks. Whatever, it's none of our business.
Believing every carefully chosen word uttered by a terrorized actor and his publicist is childish.
alcoholism: ❌🙅♀️alcoholism in korea: ✅🙆♀️you guys kill me when you all do this.
We know and understand this already. That's why we say what we say about Korea's perfection culture and the pressure that comes with it, leading people to drink, which leads to imperfect actions, which leads Lily Malice and the rest of trash media to hound people to suicide.
Oh yes, I understand all to well. Understanding it is a reason to criticize, not to shut up.
alcoholism: ❌🙅♀️alcoholism in korea: ✅🙆♀️you guys kill me when you all do this.
This. Most alcoholic of all OECD nations. They pressure one another to be perfect, then drink to escape the pressure, which can lead to actions that are less than perfect.
Which can lead to Lily Malice and the press hounding them to suicide.
"When asked if he feels a sense of responsibility..."
That's Lily Malice and the Korean media warning KTO that they have their eye on him: What a stupid f**king question. I wish he had said, "F**k, no. I'm not responsible for the moral instruction and tender fee-fees of knetz and the psycho Korean public. Get your own life."
You can feel this poor guy weighing and choosing each and every word, carefully placing one after the other in his mind before releasing them slowly out of his mouth, knowing just one less-than-perfect syllable could end his career and potentially his life.
In 25 years of appalling numbers of celebrity suicides, these freaks and Lily Malice have learned nothing, and have no intention of doing so.
Wow. Shakespearean madness, sex, political intrigue, executions, blood, slapstick hilarity, murderous drama, and more. And oh...did I mention sex? ;) Dragged in a couple of places.
Love it.
Ju Ji Hoon is fine afand a great actor. Both FLs are spectacular Costumes, sets, cinematography are excellent.
movies about the relationship between an old man and a young woman are the worst, There is nothing exciting in…
And yet you watched all the way to the end. Then, you came here to leave a spoiler-infested comment proclaiming your righteous outrage. "It is always something repeated." Though you claim to hate them, how many other films with this theme have you watched?
Sexy, a little kinky, sweet, and romantic.
In its comical way, one of the most true-to-life representations of young gay male desire in BL.
Bravo!
Because I never said people can't be happy with non-alcoholic beverages, and I never said KTO was self-righteous.
I said certain people in this thread are self-righteous.
You're not telling me anything I haven't known all my life about booze, and your and your family's drinking habits are irrelevant to this discussion.
I have not, in any of my comments, promoted or discouraged drinking, one way or the other. Please learn to read what's in front of you on the screen, not what you imagine to be there.
I'm going to quote myself from my comment above to which you seem to be responding:
"This isn't mainly about drinking or not drinking. It's about people like this guy living in terror that any sign of imperfection will end his career and potentially his life.
We have no idea what he does in the privacy of his home. Maybe he has a cocktail or two, maybe he gets shit-faced now and then, maybe he never drinks. Whatever, it's none of our business."
Do you really just accept as gospel anything a celeb or their agency says in public?
I lol'd during the scene where they showed him going wild with his pastels as if he were Picasso.
Do you believe everything celebs and their management say? In Korea, of all places? A country that will throw you in jail for smoking a joint while you're IN ANOTHER COUNTRY?
Two things:
1. The fact that you feel a few paragraphs constitute an "essay," only reveals your intellectual laziness. Oh, and you could choose to, I don't know, not read my essays.
2. I am "so bothered" by this article because I am sick to death of Korean celebrities being hounded to their deaths by Korean purity culture and the media. That you aren't bothered by that says what it says about you. You're part of the problem.
Was this too long for you?
You directly compared one to the other: "...say what you will about koh but he's straightforward. pheem is obsessive and a liar." In other words, Koh is straightforward, while Pheem is the obsessive and lying one.
Here, I'll help: "Koh and Pheem are both obsessive liars, but at least Koh is straightforward about it."
See? That wasn't so hard.
No, I'm not "upset." That's you attempting to minimize my objections by attributing them to over-emotion.
YOU seem upset, and I do know why.
This isn't mainly about drinking or not drinking. It's about people like this guy living in terror that any sign of imperfection will end his career and potentially his life.
We have no idea what he does in the privacy of his home. Maybe he has a cocktail or two, maybe he gets shit-faced now and then, maybe he never drinks. Whatever, it's none of our business.
Believing every carefully chosen word uttered by a terrorized actor and his publicist is childish.
That's why we say what we say about Korea's perfection culture and the pressure that comes with it, leading people to drink, which leads to imperfect actions, which leads Lily Malice and the rest of trash media to hound people to suicide.
Oh yes, I understand all to well.
Understanding it is a reason to criticize, not to shut up.
They pressure one another to be perfect, then drink to escape the pressure, which can lead to actions that are less than perfect.
Which can lead to Lily Malice and the press hounding them to suicide.
That's Lily Malice and the Korean media warning KTO that they have their eye on him:
What a stupid f**king question.
I wish he had said, "F**k, no. I'm not responsible for the moral instruction and tender fee-fees of knetz and the psycho Korean public. Get your own life."
You can feel this poor guy weighing and choosing each and every word, carefully placing one after the other in his mind before releasing them slowly out of his mouth, knowing just one less-than-perfect syllable could end his career and potentially his life.
In 25 years of appalling numbers of celebrity suicides, these freaks and Lily Malice have learned nothing, and have no intention of doing so.
Are you really asserting that because Koh is OPENLY obsessive, that means he is NOT obsessive? lol
The number of question marks in your reply indicate not even you believe what you're saying. :)
Shakespearean madness, sex, political intrigue, executions, blood, slapstick hilarity, murderous drama, and more. And oh...did I mention sex? ;)
Dragged in a couple of places.
Love it.
Ju Ji Hoon is fine afand a great actor.
Both FLs are spectacular
Costumes, sets, cinematography are excellent.
Highly recommended.
9/10
Then, you came here to leave a spoiler-infested comment proclaiming your righteous outrage.
"It is always something repeated." Though you claim to hate them, how many other films with this theme have you watched?
Admit it: You love this shit.