Ok, so I can understand when people complain about The On1y One or Heesu in Class 2 not being BL, being censored,…
Hi any_anka. Thanks for your reply. It will give me a chance to clarify a bit.
I dropped the show two and 3/4 episodes in, so I my comments apply only to that portion of its running time. That said, I am of the strong opinion that any "BL" that doesn't show me some significant BL vibes or action in the first almost 90 minutes, is not a BL. Anything I saw was the bare minimum, if that.
Moreover, during those near-72 minutes, I saw nothing that interested me enough to keep watching, BL or otherwise. This is where my "standards-free" remark comes in: I don't know, or want to know, how to lower my standards for a drama or film just because it's a BL. Thai BL makers know their audience does just that, which is why they keep putting out such dreck. They know BLers will keep watching, no matter what. Unfortunately, SK, JP, and TW BL makers lately seem to be following the Thai example.
If I'm bored, I'm bored; it doesn't matter if it's BL or mainstream content. If I'm rolling my eyes at lame acting or hilariously awful production values and writing, my eyes are doing loops, whether gay or straight characters are on screen.
As to what qualifies as a BL, I'd say the romance not only has to be between two dudes, it has to be believable. This is why I mentioned above, I see straight-acting actors pretending to be gay here, not actors BEING gay characters. And that problem is three-pronged: Actors holding back because they don't want to be TOO convincing as a gay character and thus be taken as gay IRL, thus in their minds jeopardizing future career prospects; actors not being talented or experienced enough to inhabit their characters convincingly; and directors who suck.
I'll add the qualifier I hate adding to all of the above, and say it is JUST MY OPINION. I hate adding that qualifier because the fact that I wrote it kind of indicates it is my opinion and no one else's. Seems to me, MDLers spend a lot of time apologizing for their opinions out of fear of being swarmed by those who disagree with them. I bet I've been attacked a couple hundred times here with words to the effect of "well, that is just YOUR opinion," or "I have a right to my opinion," and other variations, when, of course, I wrote nothing implying otherwise. :D
On edit: I saw no believable attraction or chemistry between the mains.
Tell me, exactly, what happened to the "victim" while she was in her shoes? I'd like to know the deep pain she has experienced, so that I can empathize.
Oh also, could you please explain how you know what this "piece of shit" did to her?
idk why she isnt fired yet.She is not allowed to let her personal thoughts and opinions into these articles but…
Her PERSONAL thoughts are made apparent by the fact that she disappeared Yoo Ah In from an article about a film in which he is one of the five leads. She may as well have written, "I think Yoo Ah In is unworthy of having his name mentioned, because he was charged, tried, and convicted of a crime. It does not matter that he has been punished and released from jail. We should pretend he does not exist as continued punishment, and as a means of wiping his existence from the culture." Lily Alice isn't honest enough to write the above statement. Instead, she simply removed Yoo from the mention. It is weird and Orwellian of her to do so.
The thing is that the prosecution are appealing the verdict.
So what?
The appeal has zero relevance to Yoo's name being deliberately excluded from an article about a movie in which he is one of the five leads. Should Yoo be re-tried, should he go back to jail; neither possibility changes the fact that he is one of the leads in the film. The article is about the film. Pretending Yoo doesn't exist because of outside issues is a great example of what is so twisted about Korean entertainment media. At the least, she should have mentioned Yoo along with the other leads, then followed that up with the latest status of the case; the prosecutor's appeal (which is insane in itself, of course. Korean prosecutors never know when to let go). Is Lily Alice a mind-control censor, controlling and editing what we are allowed to know, or is she an entertainment writer who deals with facts? She can't be both.
Your question seems to indicate you agree with Lily Alice on this issue of disappearing entertainers from the culture. If so, you are a Knetz. You are part of the problem.
I don't know what's your problem but listen it is bl they have chemistry with good story as well maybe you have…
"...maybe you have a problem that they are not showing their relationship..." lol Yes, it is sort of a problem when a Boys Love show does not show any, you know, "boys love..." But maybe that's just me.
We are on entirely different wavelengths regarding BL, so no point in a discussion.
A lot of potential here, all of it ruined by the vertical aspect and short-episode format. I can't get used to that narrow, vertical frame; I feel like I'm missing 2/3 of whatever should be in the shot. That said, the actors were quite good. The class president and his dimples had me all wet.
And you need to check your eyes! The kisses were good for a kbl especially the last one.
lol Awful, gum-munching kisses are far better than dead fish kisses any day. I had the same sort of thought when they first went at it, though...I was like wtf is happening? They were sort of chewing away rhythmically, with no build-up at all; just BOOM! tongues down stomachs.
Pornography is banned in about 37 countries. No country has banned the words "porn," "pornography," or "pornographic." How would they write laws against pornography without using the words? lol MDL has not banned those words either. You can rest easy. Why do you keep hiding your replies as spoilers?
This was literally 3 episodes of the same scene just from different POVs of the guys with some added scenes. Waste…
Yeah, I don't get it either. I thought perhaps they were all high when they made it, but unless they stayed high while editing and uploading it too, none of it makes sense. Oh, but none of it makes sense anyway. Quite odd.
They look nice naked.
5/10 All points for partial nudity, smooching, and talk of "cumming inside." :D
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I dropped the show two and 3/4 episodes in, so I my comments apply only to that portion of its running time. That said, I am of the strong opinion that any "BL" that doesn't show me some significant BL vibes or action in the first almost 90 minutes, is not a BL. Anything I saw was the bare minimum, if that.
Moreover, during those near-72 minutes, I saw nothing that interested me enough to keep watching, BL or otherwise. This is where my "standards-free" remark comes in: I don't know, or want to know, how to lower my standards for a drama or film just because it's a BL. Thai BL makers know their audience does just that, which is why they keep putting out such dreck. They know BLers will keep watching, no matter what. Unfortunately, SK, JP, and TW BL makers lately seem to be following the Thai example.
If I'm bored, I'm bored; it doesn't matter if it's BL or mainstream content. If I'm rolling my eyes at lame acting or hilariously awful production values and writing, my eyes are doing loops, whether gay or straight characters are on screen.
As to what qualifies as a BL, I'd say the romance not only has to be between two dudes, it has to be believable. This is why I mentioned above, I see straight-acting actors pretending to be gay here, not actors BEING gay characters. And that problem is three-pronged: Actors holding back because they don't want to be TOO convincing as a gay character and thus be taken as gay IRL, thus in their minds jeopardizing future career prospects; actors not being talented or experienced enough to inhabit their characters convincingly; and directors who suck.
I'll add the qualifier I hate adding to all of the above, and say it is JUST MY OPINION. I hate adding that qualifier because the fact that I wrote it kind of indicates it is my opinion and no one else's. Seems to me, MDLers spend a lot of time apologizing for their opinions out of fear of being swarmed by those who disagree with them. I bet I've been attacked a couple hundred times here with words to the effect of "well, that is just YOUR opinion," or "I have a right to my opinion," and other variations, when, of course, I wrote nothing implying otherwise. :D
On edit: I saw no believable attraction or chemistry between the mains.
So, did you watch any of this? If you did, how far did you get?
I'd like to know the deep pain she has experienced, so that I can empathize.
Oh also, could you please explain how you know what this "piece of shit" did to her?
She may as well have written, "I think Yoo Ah In is unworthy of having his name mentioned, because he was charged, tried, and convicted of a crime. It does not matter that he has been punished and released from jail. We should pretend he does not exist as continued punishment, and as a means of wiping his existence from the culture."
Lily Alice isn't honest enough to write the above statement. Instead, she simply removed Yoo from the mention. It is weird and Orwellian of her to do so.
The appeal has zero relevance to Yoo's name being deliberately excluded from an article about a movie in which he is one of the five leads.
Should Yoo be re-tried, should he go back to jail; neither possibility changes the fact that he is one of the leads in the film. The article is about the film. Pretending Yoo doesn't exist because of outside issues is a great example of what is so twisted about Korean entertainment media. At the least, she should have mentioned Yoo along with the other leads, then followed that up with the latest status of the case; the prosecutor's appeal (which is insane in itself, of course. Korean prosecutors never know when to let go).
Is Lily Alice a mind-control censor, controlling and editing what we are allowed to know, or is she an entertainment writer who deals with facts? She can't be both.
Your question seems to indicate you agree with Lily Alice on this issue of disappearing entertainers from the culture. If so, you are a Knetz. You are part of the problem.
lol Yes, it is sort of a problem when a Boys Love show does not show any, you know, "boys love..." But maybe that's just me.
We are on entirely different wavelengths regarding BL, so no point in a discussion.
Enjoy the show. :)
I suppose when I come back for the third time, I'll have to drop my rating another star or two.
6/10
I can't get used to that narrow, vertical frame; I feel like I'm missing 2/3 of whatever should be in the shot.
That said, the actors were quite good.
The class president and his dimples had me all wet.
7/10
Awful, gum-munching kisses are far better than dead fish kisses any day.
I had the same sort of thought when they first went at it, though...I was like wtf is happening? They were sort of chewing away rhythmically, with no build-up at all; just BOOM! tongues down stomachs.
The last one seemed an improvement though.
Just a thought, man, bye.
No country has banned the words "porn," "pornography," or "pornographic."
How would they write laws against pornography without using the words? lol
MDL has not banned those words either. You can rest easy.
Why do you keep hiding your replies as spoilers?
I'm gay. I've watched straight "stuff" all my life. Still do.
Why do you spell porn as "gorn?"
I thought perhaps they were all high when they made it, but unless they stayed high while editing and uploading it too, none of it makes sense.
Oh, but none of it makes sense anyway.
Quite odd.
They look nice naked.
5/10 All points for partial nudity, smooching, and talk of "cumming inside." :D