Ha Jung Woo is a complete stud and owns this film start to finish. Yao Jin Goo continues to blow me away with each successive film I see him in. He will be a legendary life-long film star. Perhaps most impressive is the acting from all the extras/supporting actors who played passengers and crew. I never saw one second when everyone in a passenger cabin shot was not 100% engaged and in the moment. Phenomenal direction. I also never saw one moment when the CGI did not look 100% real. When the plane was flying you-know-what near the end I nearly shit myself.
I've been aware of this for a few years now, but I love how the film highlighted the plight of SK citizens whose friends or family defect to the North (as rare as that is) and who are then harassed as Commies, or in reverse, that of NKs who defect to the south and are forever labeled Commies and spies. They can't f**king win.
Just incredible/remarkable/stunning, a cinematic achievement of the highest rank. Korean cinema continues to shock me with its excellence. Now if only it could get its cops, netizens, and trash media under control so these people could be free to do their very best work.
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Regarding "See Your Love," are you referring to the shower scene? omg...so hot and...steamy. :) I had goosebumps. I love sex scenes like that where emotion and joy are conveyed along with sexuality. If I recall correctly, Sean and SP both were smiling and laughing in between passionate smooches.
As for "top or bottom," yes I know; it's insane. But also kind of hilarious in its stupidity. When I first started watching BLs it bothered me because I feel it promotes artificially rigid sex roles in gay relationships, as if that's the way it always is, which it's not. 40% of gay men NEVER have butt sex. There are lots of other options.
The other thing that annoys me is the insistence in scripts that bottoming is PAINFUL, always...which is bullshit. If it were always painful, nobody would do it. It is highly pleasurable and otherworldly, but of course, the first few times one has to take it slowly and gently.
About the only thing I was disappointed about in See Your Love was the bit at the end when the side couple woke up after a first night of sex and the younger one specifically said that it was painful. Damn boys, learn how to do it or don't do it at all. What we need is a scene where we actually see and hear the guys do it the first time, and it's taken with love, care, and gentleness. Doesn't have to be explicit to accomplish that. Would be so hot.
I would LOVE to see a BL in which a couple was entirely versatile, or in which the one who mostly tops gives it up to the bottom now and then just out of love and a desire to provide pleasure. That would be incredibly sexy AND romantic.
But almost five years of watching this stuff have left me viewing the bottom/top trope it with amusement and an eye roll rather than anger. Which, again, is why it would be incredibly funny/interesting/hot to see that trope flipped, so to speak. Let's see a bottom refuse to allow access to his mangina until the top does the same for him!
Finally, yes, it's sad how prudish the 25 and under crowd has become over the last few years; very sex-negative, obsessed with judgments about age gaps, non-verbal consent, and all sorts of other sexual matters they judge as "creepy" or "inappropriate." Creepy and inappropriate can be what makes a show dramatic and fascinating, as well as sexy.
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I love your comment. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Rambling often brings out ideas/concepts we otherwise wouldn't get to if we were editing ourselves as we write. Like free associating... :D
My take on Sei and Fuji is that they are in the same situation as the BF of the girl. They once had a physical relationship, but now one has pulled away. I'm totally open to being entirely wrong about this.
If they are just roommates, the exchange in the kitchen about the texting would be super weird and out of place. As a roommate, what concern is it of his who his roomie is texting? And the texter even asked if he wanted him to stop, which is more like a BF question.
The scene in the Thai BL you describe is the type of thing I've been glad to get away from by not watching stuff out of that country. lol I think those scenes are a nod to the sex-phobic, young Western girls who make up a large part of the BL audience. They want their gay boys to be sex drive-free puppies, not human beings.
My understanding is that true Fujoshis, out of Japan, love intense physical passion between their BL characters. Am I wrong?
While I do avoid Thai BLs, I'm open to checking out one that is suggested as worthwhile if it comes along. ALL of the early BLs I discovered five years ago were Thai. Shows like "Love Sick," "Make It Right," "TharnType," "Together With Me," etc. So please let me know if there are any Thai shows you recommend.
Its really a shame he stopped acting/retired too early. So skilled at acting, so handsome. He had so much left…
I have no idea why he stepped away, although I'm about to research to see if I can find out. Being a celebrity in Korea can be a hellish nightmare that has driven many to choose suicide. Maybe he got a little taste of that and got the hell out.
sometimes the biggest enemy of women is another woman who supports and encourages bad behaviour like tops. thank…
Kris and Seungri are awesome! I love that him being out living life after being punished is driving you crazy. I love that him having a girlfriend pisses you off. He paid for his crimes. You are repeating unfounded exaggerations and lies, but that's what Korean psycho fans do.
Trying to drive up that Korean celebrity suicide total, aren't you? You're a rumor and lie-mongering, Puritanical, vicious troll who gets off on trashing celebs to make yourself feel better about YOU. P**s off.
I thought he played the villian role well. He smoked weed, big deal. people need to mind and worry about their…
I worry about TOP, Yoo Ah In, and others who are being tortured and destroyed by Korea's insanely Puritanical and backward drug laws. I worry because I don't want another suicide. Korea specializes in killing off its celebrities that way.
Yoo hurt no one but himself, all the Propofol was prescribed, yet prosecution wants him to serve FOUR years. Worst of all, his amazing acting career has been wrecked and Korea will torture him over the drug thing for years after he gets out of jail. Madness. He is the country's finest young actor, and with probation and ongoing treatment he should already be back to doing what he does best: Amazing and entertaining us with his unbelievable acting skills.
F**k Korea's drug hysteria. It's something out of the 1980s in the U.S. Recreational Marijuana use is legal in many states now, right alongside booze, where it should be. I wish TOP, Yoo, and a few other Korean actors/entertainers would move to the U.S./Hollywood/New York and relaunch their careers from here. We don't persecute people for being human, at least regarding Marijuana use, and we LOVE entertainers who make a big comeback after a drug problem or anything else that throws their career off-track. Yoo especially would be in high demand here. He is wildly popular because everyone knows him from his many roles on Netflix.
"he has a beer keg gut" even if thats true why are you body shaming somebody? Its bully behaviour "drugs and…
idiot. lol I saw "Commitment" long before I knew anything about BIG BANG and through the entire film I was thinking "who is this amazingly intense and charismatic actor who I've never seen before?" After watching I looked at his bio and wondered why there was nothing after Commitment. Later I learned it was another stupid, mountain-out-of-a-molehill Korean "scandal" that took him down, over...get ready....smoking pot.
Korea needs to finish growing up and so do you. He is extremely talented.
how miserable your life must be for you to spew such hate
Marijuana and dementia? Maybe if they smoked ten joints a day...meanwhile, Korea, with the highest rate of alcoholism and abuse in the developed world, drowns in Soju every night and no one cares. It's insane.
Damn. I haven't cried this hard at the end of a movie in a long time and I cry at the end of a lot of movies. Our leads are a dream team of older/younger actor excellence. Both are phenomenally gifted dramatic AND comedic actors. In the first half of the film I guffawed out loud multiple times, and in the second half, even though I had a feeling where things were headed, I well, you know...
Maybe a tad heavy on the schmaltz a few times. I have watched many war movies from all over the world and no one does the tragicomedy and insanity, yet inevitability of war as well as the Koreans. So many Korean films flesh out multiple characters so thoroughly that if something bad happens to any one of them it's heartbreaking...kind of like real war; made all the more poignant by the real-life madness/sadness of the Korean War and the peninsula's bitter divide to this day. Any fantasies of reunification are just that...fantasies.
That tanned skin made Yeo Jin Goo all the easier on the eyes. Wow.
Another excellent Korean war flick, this one as much comedy as action/tragedy. Recommended.
>> "haven't kicked into touch their partners, honestly beggars belief. Who the fuck would put up with that shit?"Regarding…
I mentioned in my OP that it's either some profound mystery yet to be revealed or simply bad writing. Right now I lean toward that latter; either that or LAZY writing. In other words, we could never get an explanation as these two unlikely, neigh impossible, situations are merely devices by which to set up the overall scenario. It wouldn't be the first time a BL pulled this stunt. I hope this isn't the case because in many other ways I like what I've seen here.
But yes, absolutely; normal young people would be pounding away nonstop even if they didn't like each other that much. I felt so bad for the skinny lead who jerked off so pathetically and alone in bed. His future lover is far more conventionally hot, but I find the scrawny one's narrow face, little hawk nose and thin lips inexplicably attractive. I want to take care of him; perhaps because he looks as if he might snap in two at any moment.
While I'm babbling here...do I have this element right?: These two have connected randomly via a mistyped email address, but of all the addresses in the world theirs just happen to belong to two guys who just happen to work in the same city/building/company? Is that it? Did I miss something? Is it maybe a mistyped address but with the same @__________ of the company? But if that's the case, wouldn't they both be curious and looking already to find out who within the company it is that they're talking to?
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Ha Jung Woo is a complete stud and owns this film start to finish.
Yao Jin Goo continues to blow me away with each successive film I see him in. He will be a legendary life-long film star.
Perhaps most impressive is the acting from all the extras/supporting actors who played passengers and crew. I never saw one second when everyone in a passenger cabin shot was not 100% engaged and in the moment. Phenomenal direction.
I also never saw one moment when the CGI did not look 100% real. When the plane was flying you-know-what near the end I nearly shit myself.
I've been aware of this for a few years now, but I love how the film highlighted the plight of SK citizens whose friends or family defect to the North (as rare as that is) and who are then harassed as Commies, or in reverse, that of NKs who defect to the south and are forever labeled Commies and spies. They can't f**king win.
Just incredible/remarkable/stunning, a cinematic achievement of the highest rank. Korean cinema continues to shock me with its excellence. Now if only it could get its cops, netizens, and trash media under control so these people could be free to do their very best work.
BRAVO.
10/10
As for "top or bottom," yes I know; it's insane. But also kind of hilarious in its stupidity. When I first started watching BLs it bothered me because I feel it promotes artificially rigid sex roles in gay relationships, as if that's the way it always is, which it's not. 40% of gay men NEVER have butt sex. There are lots of other options.
The other thing that annoys me is the insistence in scripts that bottoming is PAINFUL, always...which is bullshit. If it were always painful, nobody would do it. It is highly pleasurable and otherworldly, but of course, the first few times one has to take it slowly and gently.
About the only thing I was disappointed about in See Your Love was the bit at the end when the side couple woke up after a first night of sex and the younger one specifically said that it was painful. Damn boys, learn how to do it or don't do it at all. What we need is a scene where we actually see and hear the guys do it the first time, and it's taken with love, care, and gentleness. Doesn't have to be explicit to accomplish that. Would be so hot.
I would LOVE to see a BL in which a couple was entirely versatile, or in which the one who mostly tops gives it up to the bottom now and then just out of love and a desire to provide pleasure. That would be incredibly sexy AND romantic.
But almost five years of watching this stuff have left me viewing the bottom/top trope it with amusement and an eye roll rather than anger. Which, again, is why it would be incredibly funny/interesting/hot to see that trope flipped, so to speak. Let's see a bottom refuse to allow access to his mangina until the top does the same for him!
Finally, yes, it's sad how prudish the 25 and under crowd has become over the last few years; very sex-negative, obsessed with judgments about age gaps, non-verbal consent, and all sorts of other sexual matters they judge as "creepy" or "inappropriate." Creepy and inappropriate can be what makes a show dramatic and fascinating, as well as sexy.
My take on Sei and Fuji is that they are in the same situation as the BF of the girl. They once had a physical relationship, but now one has pulled away. I'm totally open to being entirely wrong about this.
If they are just roommates, the exchange in the kitchen about the texting would be super weird and out of place. As a roommate, what concern is it of his who his roomie is texting? And the texter even asked if he wanted him to stop, which is more like a BF question.
The scene in the Thai BL you describe is the type of thing I've been glad to get away from by not watching stuff out of that country. lol I think those scenes are a nod to the sex-phobic, young Western girls who make up a large part of the BL audience. They want their gay boys to be sex drive-free puppies, not human beings.
My understanding is that true Fujoshis, out of Japan, love intense physical passion between their BL characters. Am I wrong?
While I do avoid Thai BLs, I'm open to checking out one that is suggested as worthwhile if it comes along. ALL of the early BLs I discovered five years ago were Thai. Shows like "Love Sick," "Make It Right," "TharnType," "Together With Me," etc. So please let me know if there are any Thai shows you recommend.
Yoo hurt no one but himself, all the Propofol was prescribed, yet prosecution wants him to serve FOUR years. Worst of all, his amazing acting career has been wrecked and Korea will torture him over the drug thing for years after he gets out of jail. Madness. He is the country's finest young actor, and with probation and ongoing treatment he should already be back to doing what he does best: Amazing and entertaining us with his unbelievable acting skills.
F**k Korea's drug hysteria. It's something out of the 1980s in the U.S. Recreational Marijuana use is legal in many states now, right alongside booze, where it should be. I wish TOP, Yoo, and a few other Korean actors/entertainers would move to the U.S./Hollywood/New York and relaunch their careers from here. We don't persecute people for being human, at least regarding Marijuana use, and we LOVE entertainers who make a big comeback after a drug problem or anything else that throws their career off-track. Yoo especially would be in high demand here. He is wildly popular because everyone knows him from his many roles on Netflix.
Korea needs to finish growing up and so do you. He is extremely talented.
I haven't cried this hard at the end of a movie in a long time and I cry at the end of a lot of movies.
Our leads are a dream team of older/younger actor excellence. Both are phenomenally gifted dramatic AND comedic actors. In the first half of the film I guffawed out loud multiple times, and in the second half, even though I had a feeling where things were headed, I well, you know...
Maybe a tad heavy on the schmaltz a few times.
I have watched many war movies from all over the world and no one does the tragicomedy and insanity, yet inevitability of war as well as the Koreans. So many Korean films flesh out multiple characters so thoroughly that if something bad happens to any one of them it's heartbreaking...kind of like real war; made all the more poignant by the real-life madness/sadness of the Korean War and the peninsula's bitter divide to this day. Any fantasies of reunification are just that...fantasies.
That tanned skin made Yeo Jin Goo all the easier on the eyes. Wow.
Another excellent Korean war flick, this one as much comedy as action/tragedy. Recommended.
8.5/10
But yes, absolutely; normal young people would be pounding away nonstop even if they didn't like each other that much. I felt so bad for the skinny lead who jerked off so pathetically and alone in bed. His future lover is far more conventionally hot, but I find the scrawny one's narrow face, little hawk nose and thin lips inexplicably attractive. I want to take care of him; perhaps because he looks as if he might snap in two at any moment.
While I'm babbling here...do I have this element right?: These two have connected randomly via a mistyped email address, but of all the addresses in the world theirs just happen to belong to two guys who just happen to work in the same city/building/company? Is that it? Did I miss something? Is it maybe a mistyped address but with the same @__________ of the company? But if that's the case, wouldn't they both be curious and looking already to find out who within the company it is that they're talking to?