LSK is a god, as usual. Let's get that out of the way.
For me, the movie is jumbled and confusing, replete with flashforwards and flashbacks and flash somewhere-in-betweens that make it impossible to understand in one viewing. While I am a fan of rewatching my fave flicks, it seems a movie ought to reveal at least most of itself in one sitting, because that is all most of the audience will get...ever.
The only upside of the obscurity is that it occasionally distracted me from the unconvincing wig LSK was forced to wear.
It was not a relationship; it was an OBSESSION. That's the point. He was suffering from major PTSD, on meds, and…
Please quote me where I said you being unimpressed with this film "bothers" me. Thanks. I'm not impressed with the movie either. It's weird how so many MDLers make assumptions about other commenters based on their own insecurities
The couple's interaction being more of an obsession than anything else was NOT "obvious" to you or you would have worded your original comment differently.
Sigh...two of the best-ever Korean actors together and I'm sadly underwhelmed. :P
I respect Lee Je Hoon and Koo Kyo Hwan a great deal, and both are sensational in these parts. However, the plot is so full of absurd improbabilities, impossibilities, convenient coincidences, and many other cliche near-escapes and last-second rescues throughout, that I was pulled out of it repeatedly. I finally gave up and watched the last third for the thrill of two massively talented craftsmen working their magic on screen.
KKH is fascinating and entertaining to watch fill a character with specific tics, mannerisms, and nuances that make the people he portrays feel REAL. Also, he plays bitchy/butch off each other but together, like no one else I've seen. He's going to be a big star.
LJH does his usual fantastic work here, but the material is far beneath him.
I wish the two of them had pooled their influence as known names to force corrections to all the script silliness that made it impossible to take seriously. How many machine guns firing at once in a straight line at two guys running directly ahead of them for minutes on end, does it take before someone takes a bullet? lol Not nearly as many as we're asked to believe here. And that's just ONE implausible. There are hundreds more.
7/10 because it stars LJH and KKH. Otherwise, 5/10.
I just realized there's an actor with amazing acting skills named Koo Kyoo Hwan. He delivers an outstanding performance…
Yup. He is an up and comer. One of the best Korean actors I've seen. Check out the series "D.P." on Netflix, or elsewhere online, two seasons. It is excellent.
So because his mother "collapsed," he went back in the closet, later married a woman whose life he will ruin, had a kid, and will spend the rest of his life hooking up anonymously on Grindr behind her back...got it. Thing is, he's far too decent a person to do that to a woman; thus I don't buy that ending at all.
Futoshi's ending was much better and more realistic, and in keeping with Japanese BL conventions, a tad bittersweet. Did anyone else catch that fake-ass kiss on the cheek near the end? His lips did not even touch Futoshi's face. These weird-ass BL actors and directors who keep making BLs despite being uncomfortable with normal displays of affection are annoying af.
Good parts. Lame parts. OK parts. Not nearly as crazy-good as it could have been.
Everyone here is forgetting the dude had severe psychological symptoms as a result of PTSD when the movie began…
Where did I say "sex addiction and lust are not two different things?" You mistook my meaning. I meant to say that lust is an element of sex addiction, not that they are the same thing separately.
Another MDL trait is that when commenters run out of ways to justify what they wrote, they accuse the other commenter of being "emotional" or "angry" or "not having a life," whatever. Cuts no ice with me.
You sound super emotional in this last reply. Please calm yourself if you choose to reply again.
It was a shock that he decided to murder his lover just because he ignored him in front of his fiance and parents…
Please read my other reply above. I wrote that if all American men were jailed, the murder rate would go down by 99%, and that's damn near true.
But what you and White Rose seem to suggest only supports MY opinion that what drove Su Min to attempt to have the jerk killed was not his love for him, it was his RAGE. I don't know where you live but if you have a dominant media culture driving the idea these murders come out of "love," your country is very sick. I am NOT "justifying" what Su Min did, I am explaining his motivations, which is NOT the same as condoning them.
And yes, in this case I do believe that Su Min loves the jerk. He loves him very much. He also hated him for what he was doing, and allowed his rage to overcome that love. People can and do hold multiple, even contradictory feelings simultaneously. This story has layers on layers. It's too bad you missed them.
Again, and this is another habit on MDL, portraying a horrible action or choice is a film is not automatically condoning it or approving of it in some way. Su Min will have all kinds of problems to clean up after this episode. And the boyfriend will help him, testify for him, and if he goes to jail for a while, he will wait for him. That is what the crotch grab is all about and why they both smile at the ridiculousness of it all.
It was a shock that he decided to murder his lover just because he ignored him in front of his fiance and parents…
OK, as to all your insults and psychiatric evaluations, kiss my a**. If I bring anger and paranoia here, it can also be said that you bring stupidity. With that out of the way, you seem to have forgotten the car crashed into an electrical pole. So you are saying the cop would think the dudes in the car crashed the car into the pole in full view on the side of the road to make out or f**k. hahahahahahaha
It was a shock that he decided to murder his lover just because he ignored him in front of his fiance and parents…
This film is not about YOU and what YOU would do. It is about the characters in the movie and the choices THEY made. It is not LOVE that drove Lee Su Min to try to have Song Jae Min murdered; it was betrayal and RAGE that overtook his better angels.
This happens all the time, and it is almost always men. They feel wronged when a lover dumps them and that leads to murder all too often. If all American men were imprisoned for a month, the murder rate would go down 99%.
This is a mistake I see over and over here on MDL. People say "oh, I would never do that...blah blah blah." OK fine, the movie isn't about you and you choices.
OK, I'll try: What is it, precisely, about the FL you don't like? You have every right to dislike her, but your above comment begs this question. If you posted the comment as an exercise in trolling, that's fine too.
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7/10
For me, the movie is jumbled and confusing, replete with flashforwards and flashbacks and flash somewhere-in-betweens that make it impossible to understand in one viewing. While I am a fan of rewatching my fave flicks, it seems a movie ought to reveal at least most of itself in one sitting, because that is all most of the audience will get...ever.
The only upside of the obscurity is that it occasionally distracted me from the unconvincing wig LSK was forced to wear.
Meh.
7/10
One thing it doesn't look like is a self-censored BL.
And apparently, you are literally a dunce from somewhere she's too embarrassed to claim. lol
Nvm, you're a dunce.
The couple's interaction being more of an obsession than anything else was NOT "obvious" to you or you would have worded your original comment differently.
I respect Lee Je Hoon and Koo Kyo Hwan a great deal, and both are sensational in these parts. However, the plot is so full of absurd improbabilities, impossibilities, convenient coincidences, and many other cliche near-escapes and last-second rescues throughout, that I was pulled out of it repeatedly. I finally gave up and watched the last third for the thrill of two massively talented craftsmen working their magic on screen.
KKH is fascinating and entertaining to watch fill a character with specific tics, mannerisms, and nuances that make the people he portrays feel REAL. Also, he plays bitchy/butch off each other but together, like no one else I've seen. He's going to be a big star.
LJH does his usual fantastic work here, but the material is far beneath him.
I wish the two of them had pooled their influence as known names to force corrections to all the script silliness that made it impossible to take seriously. How many machine guns firing at once in a straight line at two guys running directly ahead of them for minutes on end, does it take before someone takes a bullet? lol Not nearly as many as we're asked to believe here. And that's just ONE implausible. There are hundreds more.
7/10 because it stars LJH and KKH. Otherwise, 5/10.
6/10
So because his mother "collapsed," he went back in the closet, later married a woman whose life he will ruin, had a kid, and will spend the rest of his life hooking up anonymously on Grindr behind her back...got it. Thing is, he's far too decent a person to do that to a woman; thus I don't buy that ending at all.
Futoshi's ending was much better and more realistic, and in keeping with Japanese BL conventions, a tad bittersweet. Did anyone else catch that fake-ass kiss on the cheek near the end? His lips did not even touch Futoshi's face. These weird-ass BL actors and directors who keep making BLs despite being uncomfortable with normal displays of affection are annoying af.
Good parts. Lame parts. OK parts. Not nearly as crazy-good as it could have been.
6.5/10
If you blocked me why am I able to write you?
Another MDL trait is that when commenters run out of ways to justify what they wrote, they accuse the other commenter of being "emotional" or "angry" or "not having a life," whatever. Cuts no ice with me.
You sound super emotional in this last reply. Please calm yourself if you choose to reply again.
But what you and White Rose seem to suggest only supports MY opinion that what drove Su Min to attempt to have the jerk killed was not his love for him, it was his RAGE. I don't know where you live but if you have a dominant media culture driving the idea these murders come out of "love," your country is very sick. I am NOT "justifying" what Su Min did, I am explaining his motivations, which is NOT the same as condoning them.
And yes, in this case I do believe that Su Min loves the jerk. He loves him very much. He also hated him for what he was doing, and allowed his rage to overcome that love. People can and do hold multiple, even contradictory feelings simultaneously. This story has layers on layers. It's too bad you missed them.
Again, and this is another habit on MDL, portraying a horrible action or choice is a film is not automatically condoning it or approving of it in some way. Su Min will have all kinds of problems to clean up after this episode. And the boyfriend will help him, testify for him, and if he goes to jail for a while, he will wait for him. That is what the crotch grab is all about and why they both smile at the ridiculousness of it all.
People are complicated.
With that out of the way, you seem to have forgotten the car crashed into an electrical pole. So you are saying the cop would think the dudes in the car crashed the car into the pole in full view on the side of the road to make out or f**k. hahahahahahaha
This happens all the time, and it is almost always men. They feel wronged when a lover dumps them and that leads to murder all too often. If all American men were imprisoned for a month, the murder rate would go down 99%.
This is a mistake I see over and over here on MDL. People say "oh, I would never do that...blah blah blah." OK fine, the movie isn't about you and you choices.