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I agree with that. I didn't pick up on Tian trying to tease Wang (I've been trying not to giggle over his name thru the entire series. Second only as an Asian dick-like name to "Dong." I know; I'm excessively immature.) with his shirtlessness. He seemed oblivious to what Wang was feeling...and seeing in his head. :)

Which reminds me...how weird was it that we got that boner-in-the-morning scene, which I found hilarious and refreshingly raunchy, especially in the context of the rest of this show, and then NOTHING else along those lines the rest of the show? l. I don't count the bare butts on sports day (lamest episode of all!) because while they were nice to view, there was nothing erotic going on there, just standard boys-bare-butts humor.

This series could have benefited from more boner-type frivolity.

Oh, I fully acknowledge what I wrote.

OK...truce?! :D

"And I will say that fix your shitty mentality! Have a broader perspective! I don't want to waste my energy on people like you who just talk shit without using their brain! Hope your hating job pays you well! 🥰
Hope to never meet you again! 💖
Hope to never meet you again!"

How respectful.

Thanks.

Beautifully-stated. Up until about episode 7, I was all-aboard with this thing, despite already-apparent pacing issues and filler all over the place. "Squandered potential" indeed.

I guess you've never heard of "internalized homophobia" then, a condition that raised its head mightily in the last 30 minutes of this show. LOTS of gay people suffer from internalized homophobia, me being one of them, though it has improved a lot since coming out and getting real many years ago. You are exhibiting many of the symptoms I used to experience (without the bad writing part, though).

Who asked for a BL with "no plot or emotions or feelings, but just filled with the SEX scenes!?" Certainly not me. (Your inability to spell out the word S-E-X is a hilarious indication of your fear and loathing of S-E-X, especially that nasty gay kind).

But that's how it is with people like you: You pretend that a live-action adaptation can only be TWO things: ALL longing glances/furtive stares/nervous giggles and NO SEX or ALL butt-f**king, BJs, and hand jobs. There is a universe of gay gray between the black/white extremes in which you think, if one can call it thinking. You seem more emotional than rational.

"fyi, Tian experienced that incident in his "childhood" in which his father was having s*x with another person while he was already married to Tian's Mom! You call this irrelevant..? Ofc He has feelings for Sheng...And he do want to confess his feelings but his fear of what he saw in his childhood is pulling him back! And Sheng realised his feelings for Tian in ep 11..And Tian came to know about Sheng's feelings in "episode 11". He was not waiting for Sheng to admit his feelings! They both were not just ready to admit it! There were things that were pulling them back from confessing which is completely understandable! Are you even watching the same drama..? At least try to give some logical criticism, even if you just want to hate the drama. "

WRONG. The effects you imagine Tian's childhood experience to have had on him may indeed be part of the novel, I have no idea, but they are not ever shown in this adaptation. He resents his dad for cheating on his mom, not because he cheated with a man. So of what relevance is his dad's gay sex?

"And I will say that fix your shitty mentality! Have a broader perspective! I don't want to waste my energy on people like you who just talk shit without using their brain! Hope your hating job pays you well! 🥰
Hope to never meet you again! 💖
Hope to never meet you again!"

Now that I know you're 12 years old, I have a better understanding of your childish style of ranting/writing.
My hate job pays extremely well.
You'll be seeing me everywhere.
You'll be seeing me everywhere.

Thanks for the giggles.

Well, divergence and differences of interpretation and nuance can be enlightening when shared coherently, which you do well. I'm not here to read my opinion reflected back at me word-for-word. How boring would that be?

It's good that we're in the same patch of "weediness" though. :)

"This is simply hate!"
You poor, sensitive thing who likes exclamation points. So she wrote her opinion with a bit of snark. This is the Internet. Get used to it.

You: "Hate! Hate! Hate! You spread hate and make me have bad fee-fees! You are a moron! Hate! Hate! You don't care about feeling and emotions like I do! Hate! Hate! Hate!

"satisfy your THRUST...?" lol You know nothing about how I really like to satisfy my "THRUST."

I do enjoy my time with our Bad BL Hater Club. DM me if you get a brain cell and would like to join.

Also you: "I love exclamation points most of all, even more than the word "hate!" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I tried reading one of Mame's novels, but the English translation was so bad and childish, I dropped it.

Hate "bromances."
NEVER watch censored bromance trash out of China.

A lot of people here call a lot of things "crimes" that are actually just human behaviors they like to pretend don't exist. I love toxic, angst, drama, distress, anger in my live-action dramas; give me the darkness, because any light that comes after is all the brighter for what went before.

Max and Tul's BL is on my Best 30 BLs list. People make mistakes in life, especially when they're drunk. There are a million levels of "betrayal," from Max's 15-minute, drunken mistake to another person having a secret affair for 15 years and never being caught. And Max's character suffered mightily for what he did.

WAY too many MDLers seem to believe that if a negative behavior is portrayed in a movie or drama, that automatically means the behavior is being CONDONED, which is absurd, and that everyone who sees it will run out and re-enact the same behavior because...something.

Ridiculous.

Its first season is on my Top 30 BLs list. The second is on my worst list. :)

EXACTLY. I have made this point a number of times since watching episode 12 last night: What was the purpose of the well-done but ultimately meaningless, last scene of episode 11?

I never saw Tian struggle with his sexuality in any way. He seemed throughout to be very accepting of what he felt for Wang and in my view was waiting for Wang to admit to himself what he already knew, suck it up, and get it on. To grow a pair, in other words. No indication from Tian of internalized homophobia at all, least of all stemming from what we saw at the end of ep. 11.

What the child Tian saw could just as easily have been a scene involving his dad and a woman, but either way, the WHY of his resentment toward his dad was never explored, and WHAT a missed opportunity! Instead, the show-makers gave over half the screen time to nonsense about school sports days, villains sneaking into the dorm and forcing all the guys and girls to share beds, and a slew of other absurdities that did nothing of interest to move the plot. Oh, I musn't forget the horrendous kidnap-and-rescue-of-Jin-or-Jane-or-whatever-her-name-was. WTF was that?

The powerful scene at the end of 11 turned out to be of no importance. How can it not be relevant that Tian saw what he saw? And yet it wasn't.

Interesting. You are a good read. :)

As a gay BL-watcher, I actually do not care for the fantasy BLs where everyone is gay or gay-friendly, and all the hot, straight athletes are in love with the most feminine of the slew of fem gay boys available on campus, and damn proud of it. (See: Secret Crush On You. I watched this abomination to the end because I could not believe what I was seeing.)

All my fave BLs center on some form of struggle with self-realization, self-hatred, self-acceptance, and hopefully self-love which leads to romance with another. This is not surprising as all of my fave films, gay or straight, are filled with angst, struggle, pain, suffering, and even sometimes great joy. :) The darkness before the light makes the light all the brighter.

A major part of this preference is that it so powerfully reflects back to me the pain I went through related to all this IRL. When I first found BL about five years ago, I was astonished and deeply moved; I felt I was seeing my own adolescence played back at me in many ways, but usually with a different outcome. It was a revelation.

For months, as I binged all the classics which had completed their run long before, I sat sobbing in my living room chair, watching on my laptop as young Asian actors touched me as I hadn't been touched before. In most of those, I got to feel a lot of good feelings too. That too, was a revelation for me.

And thus began my appreciation and continued interest in watching BLs. Ironically, all the first BLs I watched and which deeply effected me were Thai. Beginning a bit over two years ago, I barely watch Thai BLs at all. Thailand has become a BL Assembly Line, producing defective product after defective product. The most affecting BLs for me come out of Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. There have been almost no Fillipino BLs I could stomach. There have been a couple nice ones out of Vietnam though.

MDL, for whatever secretive reasons, still refuses to recognize the existence of BLs from Vietnam or Cambodia. I've written the head honchos here asking why that is, but am always ignored. MDL also continues to refuse to publish articles on its front page relating to gay films or BL. NEVER. Not once. This is obviously an editorial choice but they refuse to acknowledge it. Again, multiple inquiries on my part have been ignored.

Do you mean you didn't enjoy them and dropped?

"...but it was at the same time less boring and more coherent that 95% of thai BLs."

Ever hear of the phrase "It was damned by faint praise?" :D

The first season is on my 30 Best BLs list. Season 2 is on my 30 Worst BLs list. Now THAT'S some of the worst writing ever in BL World. Almost as bad as Love By Chance 2.

Hey Jemima, YOUR energy feels negative because you disagree with me. Please leave. NEXT

I want to thank you again for your hard work in that regard. :D

Ummm...and? They still remain unrelated by blood. It makes no difference whatsoever to anyone outside of BL World.

He CAN'T distance himself; they will see each other multiple times a day. And you're right, Wang is trying to emotionally distance himself too but, how long would that realistically work in the situation you describe? He loves him and now all of a sudden decides he can "correct" his romantic and sexual orientation just like his eyesight corrected itself, right?

Trope, trope, and trope. And trope again.

Benjamin's tremendous acting and some of the supporting characters are the only reason to watch this series, and then by skipping past all scenes without Benjamin.