Watched without subs, so I may have missed some nuance. Commenters below suggest the MC is a sex addict. I think he wants affection, but is looking for it in the wrong places.
This director does bits of dark humor well.
If anyone comes along who knows where I can watch with subtitles, please leave a link. Thanks.
If you're looking for fluff and happy endings, you're on the wrong page. I never look for fluff, and happy endings can become monotonous, so this is right in my sweet spot.
Good acting, though not a lot is required. The bully/bad guy is particularly well-acted. Commenters below found it hard to follow what was going on, but it registered with me on the first watch. Above all, what registers is the near-catatonic depression of one character, who by the end is in need of immediate intervention, and the blank acceptance of his misery of another. The bathtub scene was darkly comical.
I'm going to watch it again right now, in case I missed something.
"...with his agency releasing a statement expressing grief over the actor's passing and urging the public…
Thirty-three-year-olds dropping dead and/or coming down with facial palsy - totally common. Add in that this is an actor in notoriously suicide-prone Asia = suicide.
It's fine if you don't want to believe that. I don't care.
Not necessarily. It could have been anything, but they don't want rumours to spread because that only causes hurt…
You actually believe the authorities, his agency, and the media give a shit about "...the people in his life who he loved?" You actually believe that speculating about how someone left this realm prevents the deceased from "resting in peace?
You are frighteningly naive and silly. He's resting just fine.
Oh, and thanks for the "stfu," but I won't. Oh, and also, the authorities, his agency, the media, and his family will likely never cop to the fact of a suicide. This is authoritarian CHINA we're talking about here. They don't like when people choose to leave their Communist paradise by suicide or any other means.
News says he was found deceased at his residence. Does not elaborate.
How weirdly lame.
I love when people leave unnecessary replies to my comments, keep replying after that, and then tell me to "touch grass." You need to eat some ass, I mean grass, of your own.
Silly, stupid, hilarious, sweet, charming, stupid, funny, cute...did I already say stupid? But also stupid in the best possible way. Turn off your brain and sit back for some retro, nonsensical fun with a heart the size of Texas.
And here you are, a vigilante on social media, telling everyone to stfu. How many suicides do you have to see…
I'm sorry you've had the experience of losing a friend or family member to suicide. That is something the pain of which I can only try to imagine. The combination of grief, horror, and guilt that derives from that situation must be catastrophic. And I'd guess it will never totally go away, but like other forms of trauma, it can only be borne and gotten used to over time.
I haven't been clear that in this discussion, I 100% distinguish a famous person's suicide from that of some bloke down the street. As I mentioned, a celeb's suicide is always going to be news, far more so than if they died in a car wreck or by natural causes. A private citizen known only to friends, family, and colleagues is another matter. In that case, it would be horrible for someone to get online and announce to the world that X had taken their own life. It is not newsworthy; everyone who needs to know already would.
And the impulse to shush a celeb suicide out of fear of copycat incidents is misguided in my opinion. Rather, it is much healthier and direct to make it known what happened, why it happened, and then provide contact information for anyone who may be experiencing suicidal ideation, along with the story. I feel that silence around issues like this is never the solution. Rather, it makes things worse.
Do you know Kpop? I'm a big fan of Jonghyun-era SHINee, though I did not become aware of them until two years after Jonghyun's suicide. In that case, it was well-known and reported, almost immediately, that he took his own life, likely because the rescue attempt, rush to the hospital, etc., was all so public, there was no way to cover it up.
Regardless, it's a wonderful thing that Jonghyun's mother and sister formed an association in his name dedicated to helping people become aware of and gain access to mental health services, and to reducing the stigma surrounding open discussion of suicide. Who knows how many people might have been helped with depression and suicidal ideation in the nine years since Jonghyun's death?
As a big fan, I was especially distressed by the suicide of Lee Sun Kyun over two years ago. In the following months, it seemed perhaps the industry and society would begin an open reckoning with Korea's suicide problem, but that hope has faded. I fear that nothing has or will change, and then when the next celeb suicide happens, Koreans will pretend, once again, to be "shocked." Please.
"...with his agency releasing a statement expressing grief over the actor's passing and urging the public…
It doesn't turn it into anything other than what it is, except in your mind.
You call it "gossip," a negative word, because you want people to stfu. I call it speculation and information-seeking, entirely normal human reactions to such an event.
"...with his agency releasing a statement expressing grief over the actor's passing and urging the public…
You say it's disrespectful. I say it's only disrespectful if you think someone dying by suicide is shameful, which I don't. I say when an Asian actor dies suddenly at a young age, especially given the history of suicides in Asia, public speculation is going to happen, whether you like it or not.
"Anyone" would want to speculate about that in the first place...oh maybe because they have a working brain? If you're so above it all, why are we having this discussion?
"...with his agency releasing a statement expressing grief over the actor's passing and urging the public…
I have a question: Let's say it emerges that this actor verifiably did NOT die by suicide. How is it a big deal that people speculated it was suicide before that announcement? So what? Where's the harm?
Asian cultures feel that suicide is a shameful, embarrassing way to die; thus, the impulse of authorities, especially in China, to silence talk of it. But suicide is one way of dying among many. Speculation about it is speculation about it, not a cataclysmic event.
I should emphasize that I have never engaged in vicious rumor-mongering about a celebrity who is ALIVE. It's after they've died and the authorities and other concerned parties tell me to stfu about it, that I begin speculating, as anybody with a brain cell would do.
News says he was found deceased at his residence. Does not elaborate.
Of course not. Because that's what Asian authorities and news media, especially in dictatorial China, do after the suicide of a famous person. They know how he died, so why haven't they said so? Because it doesn't reflect well on them or their country, that's why.
Commenters below suggest the MC is a sex addict.
I think he wants affection, but is looking for it in the wrong places.
This director does bits of dark humor well.
If anyone comes along who knows where I can watch with subtitles, please leave a link.
Thanks.
8.5/10
About as bleak as bleak can be.
If you're looking for fluff and happy endings, you're on the wrong page.
I never look for fluff, and happy endings can become monotonous, so this is right in my sweet spot.
Good acting, though not a lot is required.
The bully/bad guy is particularly well-acted.
Commenters below found it hard to follow what was going on, but it registered with me on the first watch. Above all, what registers is the near-catatonic depression of one character, who by the end is in need of immediate intervention, and the blank acceptance of his misery of another.
The bathtub scene was darkly comical.
I'm going to watch it again right now, in case I missed something.
I like it.
9/10
Add in that this is an actor in notoriously suicide-prone Asia = suicide.
It's fine if you don't want to believe that. I don't care.
Also, got a link to this stairs-falling video?
I had to google "main character syndrome." lol
Thanks for accepting the supporting role of Self-righteous Dolt in my movie.
You actually believe that speculating about how someone left this realm prevents the deceased from "resting in peace?
You are frighteningly naive and silly.
He's resting just fine.
Oh, and thanks for the "stfu," but I won't.
Oh, and also, the authorities, his agency, the media, and his family will likely never cop to the fact of a suicide. This is authoritarian CHINA we're talking about here. They don't like when people choose to leave their Communist paradise by suicide or any other means.
I love when people leave unnecessary replies to my comments, keep replying after that, and then tell me to "touch grass."
You need to eat some ass, I mean grass, of your own.
Thanks for the laughs. :)
But in the best possible way.
Silly, stupid, hilarious, sweet, charming, stupid, funny, cute...did I already say stupid?
But also stupid in the best possible way.
Turn off your brain and sit back for some retro, nonsensical fun with a heart the size of Texas.
BTW, team A-Hong all the way here. :)
8/10
I haven't been clear that in this discussion, I 100% distinguish a famous person's suicide from that of some bloke down the street. As I mentioned, a celeb's suicide is always going to be news, far more so than if they died in a car wreck or by natural causes. A private citizen known only to friends, family, and colleagues is another matter. In that case, it would be horrible for someone to get online and announce to the world that X had taken their own life. It is not newsworthy; everyone who needs to know already would.
And the impulse to shush a celeb suicide out of fear of copycat incidents is misguided in my opinion. Rather, it is much healthier and direct to make it known what happened, why it happened, and then provide contact information for anyone who may be experiencing suicidal ideation, along with the story. I feel that silence around issues like this is never the solution. Rather, it makes things worse.
Do you know Kpop? I'm a big fan of Jonghyun-era SHINee, though I did not become aware of them until two years after Jonghyun's suicide. In that case, it was well-known and reported, almost immediately, that he took his own life, likely because the rescue attempt, rush to the hospital, etc., was all so public, there was no way to cover it up.
Regardless, it's a wonderful thing that Jonghyun's mother and sister formed an association in his name dedicated to helping people become aware of and gain access to mental health services, and to reducing the stigma surrounding open discussion of suicide. Who knows how many people might have been helped with depression and suicidal ideation in the nine years since Jonghyun's death?
As a big fan, I was especially distressed by the suicide of Lee Sun Kyun over two years ago. In the following months, it seemed perhaps the industry and society would begin an open reckoning with Korea's suicide problem, but that hope has faded. I fear that nothing has or will change, and then when the next celeb suicide happens, Koreans will pretend, once again, to be "shocked." Please.
You call it "gossip," a negative word, because you want people to stfu.
I call it speculation and information-seeking, entirely normal human reactions to such an event.
I say it's only disrespectful if you think someone dying by suicide is shameful, which I don't.
I say when an Asian actor dies suddenly at a young age, especially given the history of suicides in Asia, public speculation is going to happen, whether you like it or not.
"Anyone" would want to speculate about that in the first place...oh maybe because they have a working brain?
If you're so above it all, why are we having this discussion?
I will continue speculating as I see fit, thanks.
Asian cultures feel that suicide is a shameful, embarrassing way to die; thus, the impulse of authorities, especially in China, to silence talk of it. But suicide is one way of dying among many. Speculation about it is speculation about it, not a cataclysmic event.
I should emphasize that I have never engaged in vicious rumor-mongering about a celebrity who is ALIVE. It's after they've died and the authorities and other concerned parties tell me to stfu about it, that I begin speculating, as anybody with a brain cell would do.