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Yeah, I just checked and I watched that one. I think I gave it a 7.5/10 which, for me, is a decent rating, like a C+ on the ABCDF scale.

This comment is a masterpiece of Koreanesque delusion, denial and misrepresentation, a good example for others who wish to defend the psycho Korean fan culture that kills celebrities.

"HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT NETIZENS WHEN HE SAID 'CYBER-WRECKERS, HE WAS CLEARLY TALKING ABOUT BLAH BLAH BLAH, WAHHHHHHHHHHHH..."

You don't think Korea's society is toxic in regard to fan-culture, media, law enforcement, netizens and the public? This statement reads as an indictment of all of those things and their poisonous toxicity.

So...are you Korean or just some condescending international fan defending the country from us racists and imperialists and shit?

Nope, the largest cohort on MDL is American women 15-30 years of age. They're the biggest shriekers who misunderstand and think everyone else is obliged to live in their bubble. Sad, I know.

A BL?

Are you speaking of the Chinese 200-episode drama, "Hidden Love?" I just read the brief synopsis and had to laugh when I got to "five years older than her..." lol

Five year age gap as pedophilia...only on MDL. I bet a lot of the tender flowers in comments there are "uncomfortable" and find the show "problematic," right?

I watch almost no Chinese shows at all, as my little boycott in response to their ban on gay content, and I watch almost no dramas at all other than BLs. Too freaking long and straight. :)

Bravo! Well-said.

"I really do feel very offended and indeed it is best to cease this conversation." hahahahaha Poor thing.

LOTS of homophobes don't consider themselves such. Some are gay themselves.

"I would have said and written the same thing if a girl and a boy had acted in the movie." I doubt it.

"I do actually feel offended by that." Who cares? You deserve it.

Well, it's good you don't make movies then. I bet you're uncomfortable about a lot of things sexual in nature, and that is YOUR problem, not the film's.

Why? Kids that age know a LOT more than adults like you (assuming you're an adult) even begin to imagine. They also have sexual and romantic feelings toward their peers, just like the boys in the film.

Deal with your sexual hangups.

Please explain why you need to pretend that 12-year-olds don't have sexual or romantic feelings? I had crushes on other boys in first grade, just like the straight kids.

Thankfully, none of the people who made this wonderful film have share your delusional thinking.

LOTS of MDLers are very easily made "uncomfortable" much of the time. The usual suspects pretend that kids don't have sexual feelings until the stroke of midnight their 18th birthday, and anything sexual earlier than that is PEDOPHILIA!!!!!!!!!

There are many undisputed BLs in which the struggles of coming out/accepting oneself/being ostracized by friends and family are dealt with. MANY of them. I'll provide a list if you want.

"Queer" is a nouveau-hip,-pseudo-intellectual way of saying "gay" or "LGBTQ" and it's annoying.

Instantly, one of my fave Japanese movies of all time. Excellent.

9.5/10

Well stated.

Actually, I had in mind the far-left version. I see them as having taken over where the far-right ones left off. And what's most ridiculous is that they have no idea they've done so.

Plus, I don't think there are many far-right American Asian cinema/drama fans, and even fewer of those on MDL.

Same here in the U.S., but somehow it's a whole other level in Korea. It seems like all the Western countries have been in a hysteria about alleged sexual misconduct, be it rape, groping, or even just a suggestive comment. The press here is careful to always use words like "alleged," or "reported," but they're just covering their asses. In every other way the accusations are reported as if proven to be true.

And men lose their jobs instantly over things that are accusations, not facts, or their careers are destroyed. But again, it's a whole other level in Korea, and I think it's about the shame-based nature of their culture.

Are you familiar with the American actor Kevin Spacey? Oscar winner, lead in a long-running, successful series, lots of great performances in other major films over a period of years. Then one waiter in a bar accused him of "sexual assault," and after that the worms came out of the woodwork to accuse him of silly shit from many years earlier.

The press assumed it was all true, he was fired from his star role in the series, dragged through the mud, outed as gay (though that was an open secret) and a few of these allegations went to trial, including one in England. He has been found not guilty in every case, and that waiter later recanted his accusation completely. It's horrifying.

I'm waiting, hoping he sues the shit out of some people, and I hope LSK's widow does the same.

But again, I think the Korean press is especially nasty, relentless, and vicious in a way that makes the Americans and French look positively gentle. I've watched Korean news broadcasts on Youtube with subtitles and they don't use words like "alleged" or "reported" with any great regularity.

And I saw an online Korean news story which read, "...investigation into LSK's drug use..." NOT alleged, reported or accused, the story stated it as if it was a fact.

The membership of MDL is 25% American. Can you believe that shit? I am one of them. Until I found that out, I assumed I was, like, one in a hundred here.

A lot of the self-righteous, judgmental, sex-phobic, hyper-SJW/PC, know-it-all, Church Lady BS comes from young American women who have been brainwashed by super-PC university environments that encourage that mode of seeing the world. They have no inkling of how Puritanical and censorious they are; not in the least.

"But that's what Korean society and the Korean news media/police do. They harass the person so long, they will eventually say they're guilty just to get it to stop."

Precisely. When you are beaten over the head over and over and over with false accusations and assertions, you lose your bearings and just collapse. This is how corrupt cops get innocent people to "confess." It's what the Seoul cops did to LSK in THREE endless interrogations, the last one lasting for NINETEEN hours, before he gave up and checked out.

As for Choi JS and Choi JY's mom, omg, I know, I know. Which is what makes it all the harder to conceive of what CJY's mindset must have been when he killed himself, to make him go ahead with it, knowing what it would do to his mother. However, depression isn't rational. At its base, it is the result of a chemical imbalance in the brain which affects every aspect of one's thinking. From that black pit of despair, he likely had no thought of his mother at all; just that oblivion would end his agony. I don't judge those who die by suicide.

And I hate when people say suicide is "selfish" or "cowardly." Give me a break. How many people stare into the black unknown of death and walk right into it despite their fear? Seems brave to me. As for "selfish," seriously, fuck whoever says that. Who are they to judge?

There is a video of the Chois' mom on what I believe was the first anniversary of her son's death. She is at his grave site, which is right next to that of his sister, kneeling down and just wailing and keening. It is one of the most heart-rending sounds I have ever heard.

Choi Ji Sil left behind two young children. That right there shows the power of shame in Korean culture.

Last time I came close the limit was 30. There are far more than 30 block-worthy people on MDL. :)