I see alot of racist and ignorant comments.Korea is not nearly as sick as the Western imperialists who have raped,…
You are full of s**t. The subject here is celebrity suicide in Korea, not World History.
Perhaps you should start a thread somewhere else about the evils of Russian communism and evil American Imperialism. This isn't really what's being discussed here.
Oh, and NO ONE said Korea is the most evil country in history. What drugs are you on?
Maybe suicide is selfish but everone has to bear own pain and when one can't endure anymore, also has a right…
LSK "chose to go" and no one here is in a position to judge him for it. Which I'm surprised to read you doing, since just a couple comments above you said the same thing I just did.
Maybe suicide is selfish but everone has to bear own pain and when one can't endure anymore, also has a right…
No one alive can comprehend what it means to die.
This is why people who die by suicide, who stand looking into the black, bottomless maw of death, and choose to walk into it are, when viewed from that perspective, as brave as a person can be.
Artist are special people. They are more sensitive and can transform that sensitivity into their craft. Brother,…
"Suicide is selfish." For the love of god, just STFU if you are so ignorant as to make such a statement. You are literally beating a dead, not horse, but MAN. You have zero understanding or compassion for the hellish emotional state this man had to have been in by the time he fired up the briquets. I'm not going to list all the agony he'd been through over the last two months with no end in sight, because if you're commenting without knowing all that, your statement is doubly appalling. People in a black pit of depressive despair aren't thinking rationally.
On the other hand, in Korean culture there is a twisted sense of honor in killing yourself under such circumstances. In doing so, you end the "disgrace" you have been brainwashed into believing you are heaping upon your family by even being mentioned in such a "scandal." You take "responsibility" and "save face" by taking yourself and the "shame" you've been cudgeled into thinking you deserve out of the picture. Seen from that perspective by a person in deep emotional anguish, suicide makes perfect sense...in places like Korea.
See? Over, done, finale. Within two weeks, Korean media will have moved on, or would have if there wasn't a slight possibility the douchebags who started all this will go on trial and be punished by the legal system. I wouldn't hold my breath.
He tested negative for drug use, so if he didn't do no wrong, why didn't he sue everyone left and right? His agancy…
Your comment is revolting because ever-so-slyly, you place the blame back on the victim AGAIN, after he's freaking DEAD.
"...so IF he didn't do no wrong..." (I won't address the atrocious English)? "IF?!!!!" Good job keeping unjustified suspicion alive after a man has died because of it.
This is truly tragic. Suicide is the saddest thing anyone can do. Sad for the person, sad for the family. But…
You are hysterical and slobbering BS in place of facts. "The West is literally breaking down, especially the U.S. with drugs and crime...blah blah blah. Go on Youtube and do your own research! blah blah blah!"
Posts some factual, reliable links to support your BS please.
BTW, your ignorance is alarming: Do you really believe "Korean" is a freaking "race?" Koreans/Japanese/Han Chinese share more than 99% of their genetic makeup. Korean is a culture/society/ethnicity by location, not a race. Understand? As you're so focused on your genetic makeup I'd think you'd have known that already.
I'm an American. Please read my comment a bit below. We have a horrible gun violence problem here and I'm the first to admit it. But your assertion that you can't walk at night in American cities is horseshit. I lived in fucking Manhattan, NYC until four years ago. I am a night person. I walked the streets nearly every night along with hundreds of thousands of other people and never saw anything violent happen. Violent crime is a big problem depending on specific location, but in most places it has been slowly going DOWN over the last 20 years.
BUT we are talking about SUICIDE in this thread, and Korea's rate is TWICE that of the U.S., and the highest among developed nations, FOURTH highest among ALL countries on Earth. It's kind of revolting that you are trying to defend that. Grow up, admit the truth, and be part of whatever the solution is.
BTW, isn't Calgary in the "West?" Isn't the "West" breaking down? Why aren't you dead yet? Oh, that's just in the U.S. Why aren't I dead yet?
Yes, Korean society is to blame for Korean society's suicide problem, just as American society is to blame for America's gun violence problem. See? Admitting one's problems isn't really that hard. And shut it with the "racism" BS.
I have read both your posts and also live in Canada. Yes, the west is a mess, you are absolutely right but i also…
"But statements like "Korea is a sick society" are wrong and racist."
A society is not a "race." A nationality is not a "race." K-Pop idols are not a "race." Korean actors are not a "race."
There is less than a 1% genetic variation among Han Chinese, Japanese, and Korean people. They are all the same "race," yet Korea is the country with the 28.6 per100,000 suicide rate. Suicide is high in China and Japan too, but nowhere near where it is in Korea.
Now that we've got your absurd and lame assertion of "racism," which is actually just another way of screaming STFU, out of the way, let's just say that regarding the issue of suicide in general and celebrity suicide in particular, Korea is a VERY sick society. If you can't admit that, then you're being deliberately obtuse and your opinion is invalid.
Korea as a nation has the highest suicide rate among developed nations at 28.6 per 100,000 people, TWICE that of the U.S. That rate continues to tic upward, as it did especially among teens last year.
In the U.S. we have the highest rate of gun deaths in the world. There are more guns in the U.S. than people. Regarding gun violence, the U.S. is a VERY sick society. I'm an American and I admit that.
Hiding weak arguments behind accusations of "racism" is an old and tired trick. Please stop.
I assure you that there is a lot of noise in Korea when celebrity suicide occurs. When f(x) Sulli passed away…
No one said you "don't have the right to" speak about anything you want.
You actually used the term "mainstream media" in Korea, as if a consensus reached by that mess adds weight to ANY topic, let alone SK celebrity suicide rates.
Your comments are the definition of "willful ignorance." But I think you're an SK media-apologist and all-round defender of the indefensible.
I assure you that there is a lot of noise in Korea when celebrity suicide occurs. When f(x) Sulli passed away…
Oh, boo hoo, did I disrupt your calm, rational, very ice-blooded discussion with "we" about a topic no one should be unemotional about? Emotions, under control, have the beneficial effect of making people CARE about things, you know, like suicide epidemics.
Do you know how stupid YOU sound when you imply that other developed countries have this same problem, we're just not calmly "discussing" it? South Korea has the highest rate of suicide, nationwide, of any developed nation, by far. That rate, 28.6 per 100,000, is TWICE as high as in the U.S. for example.
When you consider ALL countries' suicide rates, Korea drops to what I'd guess you'd consider a respectable fourth place, right behind three tiny, extremely poor and undeveloped African nations. Hooray for SK! We're only #4!
Bravo, for yet another hearty defense of the indefensible! Good on you. Standing proud for the anonymous Netizens who do such noble work on behalf of the Republic, driving innocent people to their graves with vicious, unfounded rumors and character assassination. Good to know you're OK with that.
The lies and rumors and extra-ugly shit is spewed by the netizens, those innocent victims of "crowd mentality," then spread to the wider public by the wondrous Korean media you so admire, who cover their asses by repeatedly reminding us that they are merely quoting "netizens." They don't say WHO these individuals are or how these quotes have been verified, because they don't verify, they just REPEAT because, you know, it's "already out there" and shit.
Really, where DO you live, that you're so willfully ignorant of what really goes down in Korea regarding these topics? Cluelessistan is not that big a country, but a LOT of people live there, maybe your neighbors?
Have you heard of this thing called the Internet, where national borders mean nothing unless you live in China, North Korea, or Russia? Did you know you can like, even watch and listen to content not created in your own country on this thing called the Internet?
There's even a huge web site called Youtbue, on which you can watch videos from almost anywhere in the world, even of things like NEWSCASTS in countries other than your own.
I have watched LOTS of Korean coverage of the LSK suicide, including those ridiculous "news" panel discussions in which things are softened and every possible euphemism is employed to dance around the ugly truths they don't want to speak directly. If you consider that great journalism, your standards are pathetic.
And I have been looking at this Korean suicide epidemic ever since I discovered Korean cinema three years ago, became transfixed, but then started hearing about this suicide madness.
SK will talk about LSK for about two weeks, which is the length of their willing attention span for a celeb suicide. Then, relative silence until the next charcoal briquet incident occurs, followed by another brief frenzy
Actually, another thing that's downright creepy is the flowery language used in Korean "news" media in general, and in regard to deaths, suicides and funerals in particular. But I'm sure that's the same everywhere else too, just like the sky-high suicide rate.
The 19 hour interrogation was on Saturday, Dec 23 & finished in the early morning hours on the 24th. He died on…
But it also needs to be an important part of keeping this suicide shit front and center in the Korean media. They love to get past the latest suicide as quickly as possible...until the next one.
I am wishing and hoping and sending good energy to one of my fave young actors, Yoo Ah In, who has been under unending police harassment ("investigation") and insane, judgmental, fact-free asshole "netizen" criticism for many months now regarding the allegations against him.
Cancel culture in the U.S. is bad, but Korea makes it look like nothing.
I never write, but now I just have to, I can't keep quiet.I'm sure they are constantly monitoring the posts, let's…
"Ahjussi..." Weeping here. Thank you.
It helps to know I'm not alone in my emotional reaction to not only LSK's unnecessary death, but those of all the creatives before him who have been hounded through hell and into the grave.
Oh the irony, they weren't shameful when they were blackmailing him, yet now once they are caught they hide their…
Thing is, their humiliation can never come close to what LSK suffered because no one knows their faces and names to begin with. They have no pinnacle of success and respect to be pulled down from.
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Perhaps you should start a thread somewhere else about the evils of Russian communism and evil American Imperialism. This isn't really what's being discussed here.
Oh, and NO ONE said Korea is the most evil country in history. What drugs are you on?
Which I'm surprised to read you doing, since just a couple comments above you said the same thing I just did.
This is why people who die by suicide, who stand looking into the black, bottomless maw of death, and choose to walk into it are, when viewed from that perspective, as brave as a person can be.
Nice of you to list the failings of a couple other celebs while you had the chance, eh?
For the love of god, just STFU if you are so ignorant as to make such a statement.
You are literally beating a dead, not horse, but MAN.
You have zero understanding or compassion for the hellish emotional state this man had to have been in by the time he fired up the briquets. I'm not going to list all the agony he'd been through over the last two months with no end in sight, because if you're commenting without knowing all that, your statement is doubly appalling.
People in a black pit of depressive despair aren't thinking rationally.
On the other hand, in Korean culture there is a twisted sense of honor in killing yourself under such circumstances. In doing so, you end the "disgrace" you have been brainwashed into believing you are heaping upon your family by even being mentioned in such a "scandal." You take "responsibility" and "save face" by taking yourself and the "shame" you've been cudgeled into thinking you deserve out of the picture. Seen from that perspective by a person in deep emotional anguish, suicide makes perfect sense...in places like Korea.
See? Over, done, finale. Within two weeks, Korean media will have moved on, or would have if there wasn't a slight possibility the douchebags who started all this will go on trial and be punished by the legal system. I wouldn't hold my breath.
"...so IF he didn't do no wrong..." (I won't address the atrocious English)? "IF?!!!!" Good job keeping unjustified suspicion alive after a man has died because of it.
"The West is literally breaking down, especially the U.S. with drugs and crime...blah blah blah. Go on Youtube and do your own research! blah blah blah!"
Posts some factual, reliable links to support your BS please.
BTW, your ignorance is alarming: Do you really believe "Korean" is a freaking "race?" Koreans/Japanese/Han Chinese share more than 99% of their genetic makeup. Korean is a culture/society/ethnicity by location, not a race. Understand? As you're so focused on your genetic makeup I'd think you'd have known that already.
I'm an American. Please read my comment a bit below. We have a horrible gun violence problem here and I'm the first to admit it. But your assertion that you can't walk at night in American cities is horseshit. I lived in fucking Manhattan, NYC until four years ago. I am a night person. I walked the streets nearly every night along with hundreds of thousands of other people and never saw anything violent happen. Violent crime is a big problem depending on specific location, but in most places it has been slowly going DOWN over the last 20 years.
BUT we are talking about SUICIDE in this thread, and Korea's rate is TWICE that of the U.S., and the highest among developed nations, FOURTH highest among ALL countries on Earth. It's kind of revolting that you are trying to defend that. Grow up, admit the truth, and be part of whatever the solution is.
BTW, isn't Calgary in the "West?" Isn't the "West" breaking down? Why aren't you dead yet? Oh, that's just in the U.S. Why aren't I dead yet?
Yes, Korean society is to blame for Korean society's suicide problem, just as American society is to blame for America's gun violence problem. See? Admitting one's problems isn't really that hard. And shut it with the "racism" BS.
A society is not a "race."
A nationality is not a "race."
K-Pop idols are not a "race."
Korean actors are not a "race."
There is less than a 1% genetic variation among Han Chinese, Japanese, and Korean people. They are all the same "race," yet Korea is the country with the 28.6 per100,000 suicide rate. Suicide is high in China and Japan too, but nowhere near where it is in Korea.
Now that we've got your absurd and lame assertion of "racism," which is actually just another way of screaming STFU, out of the way, let's just say that regarding the issue of suicide in general and celebrity suicide in particular, Korea is a VERY sick society. If you can't admit that, then you're being deliberately obtuse and your opinion is invalid.
Korea as a nation has the highest suicide rate among developed nations at 28.6 per 100,000 people, TWICE that of the U.S. That rate continues to tic upward, as it did especially among teens last year.
In the U.S. we have the highest rate of gun deaths in the world. There are more guns in the U.S. than people. Regarding gun violence, the U.S. is a VERY sick society. I'm an American and I admit that.
Hiding weak arguments behind accusations of "racism" is an old and tired trick. Please stop.
You actually used the term "mainstream media" in Korea, as if a consensus reached by that mess adds weight to ANY topic, let alone SK celebrity suicide rates.
Your comments are the definition of "willful ignorance." But I think you're an SK media-apologist and all-round defender of the indefensible.
Newsflash: "conspiracies" actually happen.
Do you know how stupid YOU sound when you imply that other developed countries have this same problem, we're just not calmly "discussing" it? South Korea has the highest rate of suicide, nationwide, of any developed nation, by far. That rate, 28.6 per 100,000, is TWICE as high as in the U.S. for example.
When you consider ALL countries' suicide rates, Korea drops to what I'd guess you'd consider a respectable fourth place, right behind three tiny, extremely poor and undeveloped African nations. Hooray for SK! We're only #4!
Bravo, for yet another hearty defense of the indefensible! Good on you. Standing proud for the anonymous Netizens who do such noble work on behalf of the Republic, driving innocent people to their graves with vicious, unfounded rumors and character assassination. Good to know you're OK with that.
The lies and rumors and extra-ugly shit is spewed by the netizens, those innocent victims of "crowd mentality," then spread to the wider public by the wondrous Korean media you so admire, who cover their asses by repeatedly reminding us that they are merely quoting "netizens." They don't say WHO these individuals are or how these quotes have been verified, because they don't verify, they just REPEAT because, you know, it's "already out there" and shit.
Really, where DO you live, that you're so willfully ignorant of what really goes down in Korea regarding these topics? Cluelessistan is not that big a country, but a LOT of people live there, maybe your neighbors?
Have you heard of this thing called the Internet, where national borders mean nothing unless you live in China, North Korea, or Russia? Did you know you can like, even watch and listen to content not created in your own country on this thing called the Internet?
There's even a huge web site called Youtbue, on which you can watch videos from almost anywhere in the world, even of things like NEWSCASTS in countries other than your own.
I have watched LOTS of Korean coverage of the LSK suicide, including those ridiculous "news" panel discussions in which things are softened and every possible euphemism is employed to dance around the ugly truths they don't want to speak directly. If you consider that great journalism, your standards are pathetic.
And I have been looking at this Korean suicide epidemic ever since I discovered Korean cinema three years ago, became transfixed, but then started hearing about this suicide madness.
SK will talk about LSK for about two weeks, which is the length of their willing attention span for a celeb suicide. Then, relative silence until the next charcoal briquet incident occurs, followed by another brief frenzy
Actually, another thing that's downright creepy is the flowery language used in Korean "news" media in general, and in regard to deaths, suicides and funerals in particular. But I'm sure that's the same everywhere else too, just like the sky-high suicide rate.
Get a clue and get some heart.
I am wishing and hoping and sending good energy to one of my fave young actors, Yoo Ah In, who has been under unending police harassment ("investigation") and insane, judgmental, fact-free asshole "netizen" criticism for many months now regarding the allegations against him.
Cancel culture in the U.S. is bad, but Korea makes it look like nothing.
It helps to know I'm not alone in my emotional reaction to not only LSK's unnecessary death, but those of all the creatives before him who have been hounded through hell and into the grave.