Are you a hater or what? Because otherwise it’s impossible to say such nonsense.You can say whatever you want,…
"I’m not even going to waste my time with you." ...writes five more paragraphs.
Yes, yes, yes, because I criticize actors and shows when I think they deserve it, I'm mean, bitter, unhappy, frustrated, empathy-free, blah blah blah.
Non-fangirls, of whatever age, understand that adult, professional actors in the film and drama industry, and junior high school theatre kids, are two different classes of performers, and should be treated accordingly.
If actors want to bask in glory when they're great, they need to roll with the punches when audience members react negatively. It's part of the job. I doubt Miss Gun is here, reading comments, anyway. If he is, perhaps my comments will inspire him to up his game.
Episode 1: Damn, every actor is sexier than the one before. This is very well done, what I would call a Gay-Themed Drama, as opposed to a BL. Great production values. Decent acting.
I started this a year ago, and dropped it. Guess I was cranky that week. :P
Sex scene was epic, though they could use some coaching on timing. These guys climax so fast, they're almost done before they began. That's alright though, I'll be happy to watch whatever they choose to do. I'm suspicious...is there a reeeeeeason the dude insists on a condom? Hmmm...
Ngl Im confused as hell because I just left some edits and I saw some people saying that Pheem is a green flag,…
I missed the episode in which Preem and Jira exchanged vows of eternal, sexual fidelity to each other. That could happen later, but it hasn't happened yet.
It's hilarious, all the commenters here expressing their horror that Preem violated imaginary marriage vows to Jira, which are...imaginary...as in, they don't exist.
this feels like expecting one actor to single handedly dismantle an entire media, political cultural system during…
Gee, rina, perhaps my comment "...feels like expecting one actor to single handedly dismantle an entire media, political cultural system during an interview about his work" because you lack reading comprehension skills. I neither wrote nor implied such a thing, so I won't waste a lot of time re-explaining what I already DID say to you. I suspect you would deliberately misinterpret my clarification, too.
What you just did is a common tactic on MDL boards: Make up something no one said, accuse someone of saying it anyway, and then respond to what you made up. Some of the people who do what you just did are among those enthusiastically "hearting" your apologia.
Calling out ONE person for not doing something does NOT somehow let everyone else guilty of the same omission off the hook. That should be obvious. And where would you prefer industry big-wigs call out those most responsible for Korea's corrosive culture of impossible standards, behind closed doors and very, very quietly?
That is yet another ugly feature of the Korean Celebrity Suicide Machine. It's also a nice bit of circular reasoning that reinforces the Machine: Keep everyone too terrified of being the next "sacrifice" to say anything specific, thus nothing and no one gets named, thus nothing changes, thus it's only a matter of time until the next, nasty cycle of accusations/pre-judgement/corrupt law enforcement/media/industry hysteria leads to another high-profile suicide. And Lord knows how many lower-profile suicides happen for the same reasons as LSK's but don't make a splash in the news.
In the weeks after LSK's suicide, a group of notable industry people, including his director for "Parasite," held a public press conference They announced that change was needed to prevent future tragedies, and covered some generalities as to what that would entail. Fast-forward two years and this gentleman, in a position to know, says nothing has changed. Which means nothing WILL change.
A major difference between you and me is that you're cool with that, and I'm not. You should inquire with production companies' PR departments about job openings. You'd make a great flak for the Machine. The people who collectively run it love the kind of misdirection BS you spewed in your reply. In fact, you should use that comment as an example of your fine work.
If this powerful, influential man is too timid to speak out in a way that actually catches attention and shakes things up, which he is, and which condition you vociferously seek to justify, then NO ONE is strong enough to do so, nothing will ever change, and we all wait with bated breath for the next celeb to swing from their closet clothes rack or light up the charcoal.
At which time, this man, you, and the innumerable cowards (you used that word, I didn't) who are frozen with fear of being "sacrificed" will erupt into another collective cycle of performative "grief," "shock," and "sorrow. You'll write about how the latest victim of the Machine has "left us to go be a bright star in the sky," and certainly would not want anyone left behind to ask uncomfortable questions or point rude fingers at anyone in particular.
The hearse will roll, the industry will conspicuously wail, shed a great many crocodile tears, and after a short while, all the noise will fade to quiet, and the wait for the next incident will begin.
The Machine loves silence. You enable it. Good for you.
P.S. Your plaintive question as to "why the industry makes any honest statement this risky in the first place" has been asked and answered a thousand times over. It is well known what changes must happen. Pretending otherwise is another aspect of the Machine's ruthless efficiency.
He says that something should have been done since Lee Sun Kyun's suicide, but why doesn't he specifically say what that is, why it hasn't happened, and call out the industry people or the politicians or the members of the press, BY NAME, who have not done what needs to be done to begin to dismantle Korea's twisted Celebrity Suicide Machine?
Then, to make matters worse, he says, "but I think about ways to reduce cases where society drives someone to the extreme, breaks him, and leaves him with no chance to recover." Which is fine, BUT then, he follows up with this bit of very Korean nonsense:
Emphasizing that he must not disappoint the public, Kim said, "I always carry that mindset. I want to show that I am an actor who will never disappoint, both in my performances and in real life as well." "That mindset..." IS THE F**KING PROBLEM, and here he is re-committing himself to it.
No one is perfect! Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone fails at something from time to time. So, why is he promising to "never disappoint," in his performances and in real life? He just set himself up to be humiliated, hounded, and destroyed by the industry, press, and public, if he ever has a professional failure, or if it is discovered that he had an affair, or bullied someone 35 years ago, or god forbid, he divorces his wife, or sends someone an off-color text, etc.
Perhaps Koreans, at least of this gentleman's age and older, have been steeped in the poison of that culture/mindset for so long that they are incapable of change or of even grasping the problem. What he just said is the problem!
It would be comical, if it weren't so tragic and sad.
Thank you for posting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1_j6izmEX4 He did not speak about westernization of kdramas…
lol I've been seeing everything on your list in Asian movies/dramas for at least eight years already People in Asia don't sleep? Some of the best car chases I've ever seen are in Korean flicks from five/ten years ago. Don't people in Asia have sex or take their clothes off? They sure do in Asian movies I've seen going all the way back to 2000. The most intense, semi-explicit sex I've seen in cinema is in Korean and Japanese films.
Korean content has become very popular in the U.S., just as it is. It seems counterintuitive to Westernize something that is already working very well in its current form. I think Americans ENJOY the Asian-ness of Korean shows. I'm excited that so many Americans are now willing to watch with subtitles. That was not common as recently as ten years ago.
Bad decision. It will ruin Kdrama even more.Watch this video where it is explained and the commentary ⤵️https://youtu.be/p1_j6izmEX4?si=5gb7OWUlJ71p-sYJ
Are you a hater or what? Because otherwise it’s impossible to say such nonsense.You can say whatever you want,…
Are you a fangirl or what? I don't care what you're open to discussion about. I didn't ask you to discuss anything with me.
"In every single one of these roles, he was breathtaking." I get it, you're a Gun fangirl.
I don't care if you understand my way of thinking. I'm not a "new fan" and I don't look to BL for porn. There are plenty of actual porn sites on the Internet for that.
"People really need to stop saying random nonsense on social media and disrespecting others." I know, right? You should take your own advice.
"And OffGun have one of the best chemistries among all couples."
You've stewed in the BL cauldron far too long to know how stupid this sounds. Only in BL Fangirl World is it a thing to present two actors as a fan-service couple, and present them together, over and over and over, in different settings and roles, to keep servicing squealing fangirls such as yourself, who eat up whatever silliness is placed before them. Normal people outside that bubble would, and do, laugh at you.
The last time I was impressed with Gun's acting was "Theory of Love." However, I've grown since then. His acting hasn't grown at all. Neither has your taste level.
The GunOff Ship has been sailing for ten years. In the entertainment world, that is an eternity. The old, creaky boat is rusted and leaking, yet here you are, desperately trying to patch the holes as she goes down.
I won't "name one ship" because BL "ships" are absurdly juvenile. They are also big money-makers for production companies, because certain gullible people will watch anything containing their "ship," regardless of quality or originality.
Get back to work patching that old boat, child. She's going down fast.
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Yes, yes, yes, because I criticize actors and shows when I think they deserve it, I'm mean, bitter, unhappy, frustrated, empathy-free, blah blah blah.
Non-fangirls, of whatever age, understand that adult, professional actors in the film and drama industry, and junior high school theatre kids, are two different classes of performers, and should be treated accordingly.
If actors want to bask in glory when they're great, they need to roll with the punches when audience members react negatively. It's part of the job. I doubt Miss Gun is here, reading comments, anyway. If he is, perhaps my comments will inspire him to up his game.
Damn, every actor is sexier than the one before.
This is very well done, what I would call a Gay-Themed Drama, as opposed to a BL.
Great production values.
Decent acting.
I started this a year ago, and dropped it. Guess I was cranky that week. :P
Sex scene was epic, though they could use some coaching on timing. These guys climax so fast, they're almost done before they began.
That's alright though, I'll be happy to watch whatever they choose to do.
I'm suspicious...is there a reeeeeeason the dude insists on a condom? Hmmm...
The way his apparent overnight guest breezed through the room, saying her farewells, and no one batted an eye, was awesome.
Some people are bi. Who knew?
What you just did is a common tactic on MDL boards: Make up something no one said, accuse someone of saying it anyway, and then respond to what you made up. Some of the people who do what you just did are among those enthusiastically "hearting" your apologia.
Calling out ONE person for not doing something does NOT somehow let everyone else guilty of the same omission off the hook. That should be obvious. And where would you prefer industry big-wigs call out those most responsible for Korea's corrosive culture of impossible standards, behind closed doors and very, very quietly?
That is yet another ugly feature of the Korean Celebrity Suicide Machine. It's also a nice bit of circular reasoning that reinforces the Machine: Keep everyone too terrified of being the next "sacrifice" to say anything specific, thus nothing and no one gets named, thus nothing changes, thus it's only a matter of time until the next, nasty cycle of accusations/pre-judgement/corrupt law enforcement/media/industry hysteria leads to another high-profile suicide. And Lord knows how many lower-profile suicides happen for the same reasons as LSK's but don't make a splash in the news.
In the weeks after LSK's suicide, a group of notable industry people, including his director for "Parasite," held a public press conference They announced that change was needed to prevent future tragedies, and covered some generalities as to what that would entail. Fast-forward two years and this gentleman, in a position to know, says nothing has changed. Which means nothing WILL change.
A major difference between you and me is that you're cool with that, and I'm not. You should inquire with production companies' PR departments about job openings. You'd make a great flak for the Machine. The people who collectively run it love the kind of misdirection BS you spewed in your reply. In fact, you should use that comment as an example of your fine work.
If this powerful, influential man is too timid to speak out in a way that actually catches attention and shakes things up, which he is, and which condition you vociferously seek to justify, then NO ONE is strong enough to do so, nothing will ever change, and we all wait with bated breath for the next celeb to swing from their closet clothes rack or light up the charcoal.
At which time, this man, you, and the innumerable cowards (you used that word, I didn't) who are frozen with fear of being "sacrificed" will erupt into another collective cycle of performative "grief," "shock," and "sorrow. You'll write about how the latest victim of the Machine has "left us to go be a bright star in the sky," and certainly would not want anyone left behind to ask uncomfortable questions or point rude fingers at anyone in particular.
The hearse will roll, the industry will conspicuously wail, shed a great many crocodile tears, and after a short while, all the noise will fade to quiet, and the wait for the next incident will begin.
The Machine loves silence. You enable it. Good for you.
P.S. Your plaintive question as to "why the industry makes any honest statement this risky in the first place" has been asked and answered a thousand times over. It is well known what changes must happen. Pretending otherwise is another aspect of the Machine's ruthless efficiency.
Then, to make matters worse, he says, "but I think about ways to reduce cases where society drives someone to the extreme, breaks him, and leaves him with no chance to recover." Which is fine, BUT then, he follows up with this bit of very Korean nonsense:
Emphasizing that he must not disappoint the public, Kim said, "I always carry that mindset. I want to show that I am an actor who will never disappoint, both in my performances and in real life as well."
"That mindset..." IS THE F**KING PROBLEM, and here he is re-committing himself to it.
No one is perfect! Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone fails at something from time to time. So, why is he promising to "never disappoint," in his performances and in real life? He just set himself up to be humiliated, hounded, and destroyed by the industry, press, and public, if he ever has a professional failure, or if it is discovered that he had an affair, or bullied someone 35 years ago, or god forbid, he divorces his wife, or sends someone an off-color text, etc.
Perhaps Koreans, at least of this gentleman's age and older, have been steeped in the poison of that culture/mindset for so long that they are incapable of change or of even grasping the problem. What he just said is the problem!
It would be comical, if it weren't so tragic and sad.
Korean content has become very popular in the U.S., just as it is. It seems counterintuitive to Westernize something that is already working very well in its current form. I think Americans ENJOY the Asian-ness of Korean shows. I'm excited that so many Americans are now willing to watch with subtitles. That was not common as recently as ten years ago.
Perhaps you're overreacting...?
I don't care what you're open to discussion about.
I didn't ask you to discuss anything with me.
"In every single one of these roles, he was breathtaking."
I get it, you're a Gun fangirl.
I don't care if you understand my way of thinking.
I'm not a "new fan" and I don't look to BL for porn. There are plenty of actual porn sites on the Internet for that.
"People really need to stop saying random nonsense on social media and disrespecting others."
I know, right? You should take your own advice.
"And OffGun have one of the best chemistries among all couples."
You've stewed in the BL cauldron far too long to know how stupid this sounds. Only in BL Fangirl World is it a thing to present two actors as a fan-service couple, and present them together, over and over and over, in different settings and roles, to keep servicing squealing fangirls such as yourself, who eat up whatever silliness is placed before them. Normal people outside that bubble would, and do, laugh at you.
The last time I was impressed with Gun's acting was "Theory of Love." However, I've grown since then. His acting hasn't grown at all. Neither has your taste level.
The GunOff Ship has been sailing for ten years. In the entertainment world, that is an eternity. The old, creaky boat is rusted and leaking, yet here you are, desperately trying to patch the holes as she goes down.
I won't "name one ship" because BL "ships" are absurdly juvenile. They are also big money-makers for production companies, because certain gullible people will watch anything containing their "ship," regardless of quality or originality.
Get back to work patching that old boat, child. She's going down fast.
Did someone ask you to change your opinion?
I laughed when Preem showed his tattoo. :D