Why was Pheem wrong to hook up with a rando chick after being rejected by Jira? He doesn't owe Jira anything.…
Says YOU. And who are you to make these moral proclamations about what you imagine the correct way for a BL character in any given situation, or for anyone in meat-space, for that matter, is to behave?
What's with your quotation marks that surround words no one, certainly not me, ever said in this conversation? If Preem's "casual hookup" "cheapens the emotional weight of the main romance" (lol) for YOU, that's fine. But where do you get off announcing that every viewer does or should see it that way? Where in the show is this "grand love" you imagine? Is that what you want in your life, and you're mad at Preem for not providing Jira with it by hooking up with someone else, so you can pretend you're Jira and bask in the warm glow of the grand love you've been pining for? How do you know "what the show wants us to believe?" Were you in the writers room?
Ummm...the "avoidant coping" you rant about is pretty much what I referred to above as "when you can temporarily comfort yourself by getting laid" Yes, that's partly what he was doing, like lots of human beings do. If Preem "sat with his feelings," how boring would that be to watch? Do you watch BL dramas for moral lessons and example-setting, so you'll know how to live your life? Then, we get to your "Generalizing all men as blah blah blah" line. I specifically used the word "most" when referring to men, and I used it for a reason. Work on reading comprehension. Yes, lots of people get depressed, lose their appetite, etc. in Preem's situation. Preem isn't one of them. Who used the words "Western idealism?" Not me. Voices in your head, perhaps? Did Preem ever use the words "all-consuming love," or did you pull that out of your imagination too? Which is fine, if you did, but you should be able to realize that's what you're doing.
I could go on and on. Your response furthers my suspicion that you're watching an Asian BL from a Western, female, fujoshi mindset, expecting, wanting the men in it to behave as you fantasize men would behave toward and about YOU.
Newsflash: You're not a gay man. You're not a character in this drama. I suspect that if you were, it would be extremely boring.
Why was Pheem wrong to hook up with a rando chick after being rejected by Jira? He doesn't owe Jira anything.…
A classic, stereotypical, fujoshi/Western female take on the situation.
You haven't a clue how most guys' minds and sex drives work. The idea that if he is in love with Jira, he can't possibly get horny for someone else at the same time is the sort of silly, melodramatic, nonexistent in reality, romantic love pushed by many Asian dramas, gay or straight.
Why on Earth would a rational man feel sexual fidelity to a person who has just sexually and romantically rejected him? I see Peem's sleeping with that woman as a very natural, human, even rational response to what Jira had just thrown in his face. Why sit around moping over someone who doesn't want you when you can temporarily comfort yourself by getting laid? Which doesn't mean he can't, or won't, get right back up the next day and plan new ways to win over Jira.
What you expressed about this is a great example of Western, female, BL fan thinking.
Omg...... I don't get who is more toxic in this series...... Koh is so manipulative, he literally blew my mind…
Why was Pheem wrong to hook up with a rando chick after being rejected by Jira? He doesn't owe Jira anything. If you think he was after Jira only for sex and has no feelings for him, you're not watching the show.
What, was he supposed to go home and cry alone all night after Jira shit all over him with his "oh, I'm just not ready right now...." cock tease bit? Please.
Gun is gunning for the next award ……and why not …he is totally killing it !!!
You don't see his acting as...repetitive? I always feel I know exactly how he will deliver a given scene, and I'm almost always right. He is the opposite of unpredictable.
Same old dance with these two...same old vibe, no matter what roles they play. I wonder how many more years they can keep this creaking old ship afloat...
Gun has been in the LadyBoy phase of his career for over ten years now. Crying on cue won't carry him forever.
AJ as Mawin is the most enjoyable part of this show. And those lips... Dew/Pheem shows promise.
The most offensive aspect of this drama is the complete lack of sex.
The next time GMM produces a drama prominently featuring an artist and their work, they should probably spring for the real thing...unless I'm mistaken and we're meant to understand that Jira's work is amateurish and that Koh's appreciation for it is entirely feigned. If that's the case, then, the art is perfect, as is.
When the lead and that other, handsome member of the friend group went into the "back room" of the nightclub,…
You make many valid points. I agree with all of them. YJ is smart to go to Canada. Perhaps, in the sequel I'm writing, CJ will follow him there... :)
Believe me, I know all about the Korean Celeb Suicide Machine. It has been breaking my heart and enraging me for seven years. From my profile custom list page: https://kisskh.at/list/1drDvBV3
Korea has the highest suicide rate AND the highest alcoholism rate among all OECD nations. Something to be proud of, eh?
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I didn't call anything "rational realism."
Lord, you wouldn't have anything to write if you didn't make up stuff to respond to.
Please find some straight trash romance to project your unfulfilled romantic/sexual needs onto. Frustrated Western fangirls will be the death of BL.
What's with your quotation marks that surround words no one, certainly not me, ever said in this conversation?
If Preem's "casual hookup" "cheapens the emotional weight of the main romance" (lol) for YOU, that's fine. But where do you get off announcing that every viewer does or should see it that way?
Where in the show is this "grand love" you imagine? Is that what you want in your life, and you're mad at Preem for not providing Jira with it by hooking up with someone else, so you can pretend you're Jira and bask in the warm glow of the grand love you've been pining for?
How do you know "what the show wants us to believe?" Were you in the writers room?
Ummm...the "avoidant coping" you rant about is pretty much what I referred to above as "when you can temporarily comfort yourself by getting laid" Yes, that's partly what he was doing, like lots of human beings do.
If Preem "sat with his feelings," how boring would that be to watch? Do you watch BL dramas for moral lessons and example-setting, so you'll know how to live your life?
Then, we get to your "Generalizing all men as blah blah blah" line. I specifically used the word "most" when referring to men, and I used it for a reason. Work on reading comprehension.
Yes, lots of people get depressed, lose their appetite, etc. in Preem's situation. Preem isn't one of them.
Who used the words "Western idealism?" Not me. Voices in your head, perhaps?
Did Preem ever use the words "all-consuming love," or did you pull that out of your imagination too? Which is fine, if you did, but you should be able to realize that's what you're doing.
I could go on and on.
Your response furthers my suspicion that you're watching an Asian BL from a Western, female, fujoshi mindset, expecting, wanting the men in it to behave as you fantasize men would behave toward and about YOU.
Newsflash: You're not a gay man. You're not a character in this drama. I suspect that if you were, it would be extremely boring.
Congratulations.
You haven't a clue how most guys' minds and sex drives work.
The idea that if he is in love with Jira, he can't possibly get horny for someone else at the same time is the sort of silly, melodramatic, nonexistent in reality, romantic love pushed by many Asian dramas, gay or straight.
Why on Earth would a rational man feel sexual fidelity to a person who has just sexually and romantically rejected him? I see Peem's sleeping with that woman as a very natural, human, even rational response to what Jira had just thrown in his face. Why sit around moping over someone who doesn't want you when you can temporarily comfort yourself by getting laid? Which doesn't mean he can't, or won't, get right back up the next day and plan new ways to win over Jira.
What you expressed about this is a great example of Western, female, BL fan thinking.
No, I meant just the opposite. He has no range. His characterizations and acting are always the same, regardless of role.
Knowing AI slop when I see it is part of my job, and I do it well.
Try using your mind to think your own thoughts and your fingertips to type your own words. I promise it won't kill you.
What, was he supposed to go home and cry alone all night after Jira shit all over him with his "oh, I'm just not ready right now...." cock tease bit? Please.
I always feel I know exactly how he will deliver a given scene, and I'm almost always right.
He is the opposite of unpredictable.
And how does the director's trans status show up in the drama, in your opinion?
Thanks.
I wonder how many more years they can keep this creaking old ship afloat...
Gun has been in the LadyBoy phase of his career for over ten years now.
Crying on cue won't carry him forever.
AJ as Mawin is the most enjoyable part of this show. And those lips...
Dew/Pheem shows promise.
The most offensive aspect of this drama is the complete lack of sex.
The next time GMM produces a drama prominently featuring an artist and their work, they should probably spring for the real thing...unless I'm mistaken and we're meant to understand that Jira's work is amateurish and that Koh's appreciation for it is entirely feigned. If that's the case, then, the art is perfect, as is.
YJ is smart to go to Canada.
Perhaps, in the sequel I'm writing, CJ will follow him there... :)
Believe me, I know all about the Korean Celeb Suicide Machine.
It has been breaking my heart and enraging me for seven years.
From my profile custom list page:
https://kisskh.at/list/1drDvBV3
Korea has the highest suicide rate AND the highest alcoholism rate among all OECD nations.
Something to be proud of, eh?