This has deteriorated even further into trope-ism and juvenile writing/story-telling. At this point, I'm just fast-forwarding to scenes with Pisaeng in them. He's hot and his character feels genuine. I'm also enjoying his coming-out struggle/process. The rest of it is typical Thai BL university setting silliness. oooh...all of a sudden Kawi is the lead singer in a band! All of a sudden he's singing a song with lyrics that just happen to possibly apply to his developing relationship with Kawi! And omg, Pisaeng just happens to be standing at the back of the room to look at Kawi meaningfully as he sings. lol I've seen this about 437 times in Thai BLs.
The silly time-travel thing, which at first didn't bother me, now feels stupid. Every single person in that gay bar was dressed like a drag queen in a Pride parade. lol
May end up dropping this; not sure right now. We'll see. My tastes in BLs have changed dramatically in the three years since I first discovered them, and this fluffy, predictable style is just boring and redundant to me.
Trope City Cliche-ville Feels like there's heavy s**t on the way but the amateur acting undermines the tension they're trying establish. (the high school actors were particularly bad in the rain/umbrella scene.) I'll keep watching for the handsome guys though.
This has gotten so bad. And so boring. I continue watching for one reason: Kondo Shori Great screen presence. I hope he has a new project lined up that is written a LOT better than this one. Story is so lame. The confession was anti-climactic to say the least. Mahiro barely reacted. I wonder how many times characters in this drama have said "eh?" Hopefully Shori will get naked next week. He has great legs.
I agree with you. The "naked dining" part of the story is all but lost with very little explanation as to why.…
Thanks for your understanding and considerate comment. You don't owe me an apology though I appreciate the thought. I'm not that delicate, as you can probably tell from my comment. :) The statement you referenced in your reply IS the one that annoyed me the most though.
I think Souta was pretty damn brave to ask for a kiss from Mahiro, actually, given that to this point he has thought of himself as straight. It's curious people in comments here don't seem to get that. Mahiro reacted like a Vestal Virgin who had never been kissed before, and I think we know that is not the case.
I think maybe everyone thinks Mahiro is little and cute and thus without flaws. lol
I agree with you. The "naked dining" part of the story is all but lost with very little explanation as to why.…
You must be a straight female, am I right? Perhaps I'm wrong, but it's clear from your remarks you have zero concept of the struggle to accept oneself as a gay male in a intensely homophobic society such as Japan. Souta is facing an existential crisis for which you apparently have no empathy or appreciation. OF COURSE he "should" do what you wrote. But he doesn't exist or act in a vacuum. His choices and actions at this time will determine the course of his life. Have you operated under that kind of pressure? If you have, have you done everything just right at the time? If so I applaud you and ask that you remember how rare your kind of perfection is.
Now that I think about it, Mahiro is the one who has supposedly been "out" for some time. He even has an ex-boyfriend from a previous relationship. That being the case, why is he being so timid and warm/cold, off/on about this situation? He should be taking the lead, understanding how confounding and scary this situation is for Souta. Instead he's been a pouty, little b***h.
This is all just bad writing though, as almost nobody's actions make sense or are at all consistent, even the dumb girl. She knew what she was inserting herself into and did it anyway, in an aggressive manner not believable in light of her portrayal of the character as mousey and timid.
I just don't get the sympathy for Mahiro, given his out-ness and his history. He's dealt with this type of thing before, but you'd never know it from his actions. I think people make exceptions for him as they perceive him as a weak, delicate little bottom-soul who's at the mercy of the tall, mean, potential-top Souta. :D
I agree with you. The "naked dining" part of the story is all but lost with very little explanation as to why.…
SHE pulled HIM in. Please...she threw herself at him at every opportunity, begging to be his girlfriend. So many commenters here blaming Souta entirely for this mess is so weird. The chubby-cheeks kid has had MULTIPLE opportunities to make things clear, and he muddies the waters and backs off every time. He had a chance at a kiss from the guy he's crushed on for years and he turns it down, demanding love and a marriage proposal before he'll allow such a thing. Honestly, Souta's confused reactions regarding that awful girl and the kid are entirely understandable.
lol Thank you! I've been commenting, mostly in jest, as to whether someone dropped YC on his head as a baby or…
hahaha. Great minds... :) "Neurologically diverse," sorry. :D I guess we've moved on from retarded to intellectually-disabled to neurologically diverse. I forgot.
Anyway, it's funny that we both caught that but most people think YC is just "innocent." lol
It's one thing to make a grown man cry, but to make a big strong one cry! How many of you went "aww" out loud…
Thing is, he WASN'T crying, just squinting. The actor couldn't' come up with any real tears. I know, I"m a big ol' bitch. Also, that is one of several moments in 5&6 during which YC seemed mentally disabled or Autistic. His stammering and seeming lack of comprehension goes overboard in some scenes.
is the 20y/o ML autistic? or like on the spectrum ? like is that mentioned in the series?
lol Thank you! I've been commenting, mostly in jest, as to whether someone dropped YC on his head as a baby or he had a high fever and was brain damaged, thus accounting for the edge of retardation the actor brings to the character in some scenes. He seems confused, as though he can't read emotional cues, stuff like that but no one here wants to hear it. I don't think his retardation is a plot point, just poor direction and over-acting.
How do you know that? Also, lighten up. To me, the actor is at times over-playing the dumb, innocent farmer to the point that he seems dim-witted. If you disagree, that's fine.
Had to laugh at your questioning Ye-Chan's intellectual ability. In the manhwa, he goes on to be an astute businessman.…
Lighten up. My point is the actor is overplaying the innocent-country-boy thing in some scenes and Ye Chan comes off as not all there. Also, it makes no difference whatsoever what happens in the Manhwa. The adaptation does not have to follow the Manhwa word-for-word, scene-for-scene. Like any other adaptation this show is BASED on an original source; the makers are free to change whatever they want.
Ye Chan knew exactly what he was doing, rolling those shirtsleeves up to show off his arms and shoulders. Good God, he looked like a Greek statue up there picking apples. I would love to see that man in a tuxedo. Either that, or naked. Or both, alternately.
It would add some depth to the story if we were to learn what sort of incident it was that left Ye Chan intellectually disabled. Car crash? High fever as a baby? Dropped on his head?
Trope City and cliche, lame writing but the leads are so appealing, alone and together, that it doesn't really matter. These two were perfectly cast: One fine-featured and pretty but masculine, the other strong-featured, handsome and masculine. One ivory-skinned, the other sun-kissed. Their personalities/vibes make for remarkable chemistry and if a show has that, most of its work is done, at least in BL World.
How many dream sequences does that make in BL history, 5,273? Also, so happy to see a good old-fashioned boner joke in a BL! It felt like the old days of Make It Right's raunchy humor. :)
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At this point, I'm just fast-forwarding to scenes with Pisaeng in them. He's hot and his character feels genuine. I'm also enjoying his coming-out struggle/process. The rest of it is typical Thai BL university setting silliness. oooh...all of a sudden Kawi is the lead singer in a band! All of a sudden he's singing a song with lyrics that just happen to possibly apply to his developing relationship with Kawi! And omg, Pisaeng just happens to be standing at the back of the room to look at Kawi meaningfully as he sings. lol I've seen this about 437 times in Thai BLs.
The silly time-travel thing, which at first didn't bother me, now feels stupid. Every single person in that gay bar was dressed like a drag queen in a Pride parade. lol
May end up dropping this; not sure right now. We'll see. My tastes in BLs have changed dramatically in the three years since I first discovered them, and this fluffy, predictable style is just boring and redundant to me.
Cliche-ville
Feels like there's heavy s**t on the way but the amateur acting undermines the tension they're trying establish. (the high school actors were particularly bad in the rain/umbrella scene.)
I'll keep watching for the handsome guys though.
I continue watching for one reason: Kondo Shori
Great screen presence. I hope he has a new project lined up that is written a LOT better than this one.
Story is so lame. The confession was anti-climactic to say the least. Mahiro barely reacted.
I wonder how many times characters in this drama have said "eh?"
Hopefully Shori will get naked next week. He has great legs.
Stupidity reveals itself in so many ways. Thanks.
I think Souta was pretty damn brave to ask for a kiss from Mahiro, actually, given that to this point he has thought of himself as straight. It's curious people in comments here don't seem to get that. Mahiro reacted like a Vestal Virgin who had never been kissed before, and I think we know that is not the case.
I think maybe everyone thinks Mahiro is little and cute and thus without flaws. lol
Now that I think about it, Mahiro is the one who has supposedly been "out" for some time. He even has an ex-boyfriend from a previous relationship. That being the case, why is he being so timid and warm/cold, off/on about this situation? He should be taking the lead, understanding how confounding and scary this situation is for Souta. Instead he's been a pouty, little b***h.
This is all just bad writing though, as almost nobody's actions make sense or are at all consistent, even the dumb girl. She knew what she was inserting herself into and did it anyway, in an aggressive manner not believable in light of her portrayal of the character as mousey and timid.
I just don't get the sympathy for Mahiro, given his out-ness and his history. He's dealt with this type of thing before, but you'd never know it from his actions. I think people make exceptions for him as they perceive him as a weak, delicate little bottom-soul who's at the mercy of the tall, mean, potential-top Souta. :D
"Neurologically diverse," sorry. :D I guess we've moved on from retarded to intellectually-disabled to neurologically diverse. I forgot.
Anyway, it's funny that we both caught that but most people think YC is just "innocent." lol
It would add some depth to the story if we were to learn what sort of incident it was that left Ye Chan intellectually disabled. Car crash? High fever as a baby? Dropped on his head?
Trope City and cliche, lame writing but the leads are so appealing, alone and together, that it doesn't really matter. These two were perfectly cast: One fine-featured and pretty but masculine, the other strong-featured, handsome and masculine. One ivory-skinned, the other sun-kissed. Their personalities/vibes make for remarkable chemistry and if a show has that, most of its work is done, at least in BL World.
How many dream sequences does that make in BL history, 5,273? Also, so happy to see a good old-fashioned boner joke in a BL! It felt like the old days of Make It Right's raunchy humor. :)