It's Lily Alice again, trying to help destroy yet another actor's life and career, with one of her Lily Alice-style, sleazy "articles!" What a surprise. Not.
Lily Alice: "... a blogger revealed that Chinese actor Xu Kai has long been engaged in group gambling..." NO, Lily, the blogger revealed nothing except an unproven accusation that you attempt, in your inimitable, salacious way, to make sound like a proven fact.
When someone is actually charged with something and/or you have hard evidence, try again. Your writing is sloppy, tabloid-ish, and has likely contributed to suicides. Please stop.
The message I got was that gay JPs should get married secretly and alone in an empty restaurant, they shouldn't…
I am talking about the attitudes, perspectives, and behaviors of the main characters, not those of obscure, international fans out there somewhere. I'm talking about how Mashiro's actions in handling his own wedding ceremony, which given the intact laws preventing such a thing in JP, had to be improvised, indicated his own shame and fear, rather than courage, which is the direction both characters had supposedly moved toward during the show.
They had come out to parents, friends, and coworkers right and left, and yet here they were, hiding alone in a deserted cafe and using watches instead of rings to symbolize their union. Rather than celebrating how far they'd come toward self-acceptance and pride, Mashiro's ceremony framed them as cowering fugitives, secretly performing a rite far too dark to be openly acknowledged.
From a writing perspective, this "wedding" was wildly inconsistent with the character's own values and progress; a move back into the shadows from which he and Kanade had supposedly emerged, hand-in-hand. The Mashiro I saw onscreen by that point in the story would have invited friends and family, and told anyone who didn't want to join in their happiness, to f**k themselves.
Any "cuteness" or beauty in that scene was killed by the hideously homophobic mannequin kiss, an inadvertent but perfect, stone-cold metaphor for the ceremony and circumstances it was meant to put an exclamation point on. It did just that, but in a way opposite to what was intended.
Wow, this is quite good! All three leads are exceptional, but the FL especially has great comic timing. Question: The site I'm watching this in four parts stitched together, the picture quality isn't great. Can anyone suggest a place to watch this with good quality?
If the rest is as good as the first 12 episodes, it's a shame this wasn't made with a proper budget. I just can't get on board with this cheap-ass, vertical aspect shit. Also, how is a well-written show like this not getting properly funded in the first place, when we see so many trash BLs with big budgets?
Hilariously over-the-top, nonsensical, melodramatic trash. If you approach it in that manner, with a remote handy for all the boring parts, you might enjoy a laugh or two out of it. I was interested only in the gay son/mother/mother's gigolo story, so blessedly, I was able to fast-forward thru 2/3rd of it.
it was good and cute, but the ending was everything. The “wedding” scene and the message behind it was too…
The message I got was that gay JPs should get married secretly and alone in an empty restaurant, they shouldn't exchange rings because that would be too public a declaration of their status, and that if they absolutely HAVE to INSIST on (yuck!) kissing, they should do so as if they were dead and buried beneath 50 feet of ash at Pompeii.
Episode 12: What a strange, sad, lonely little ceremony to wrap things up. I have so many questions about why the writers would have Mashiro come up with such a sweet, potentially moving idea, and then execute it in such an oddly downbeat way, that I won't try to list them all, but #1 is why, now that they have supportive friends and family, would he not include at least some of them at the "ceremony" itself, rather than as an afterthought to help them eat the cake. This felt like a C-bromance almost, trying to have a gay wedding but making sure it felt depressing and isolated so the couple wouldn't be perceived as happy, and no one in the audience would be inspired to go get gay-married.
And OMG, that mannequin kiss! WTAF? That is the stiffest, most static, and emotion-free mannequin kiss I have seen since the long-ago SOTUS freaked me out with the first mannequin kiss I ever saw, very early in my BL-watching days. In fact, I will now assert that this "wedding" kiss is the MOST mannequin-ish mannequin kiss in all of BL history. Feel free to nominate other atrocities/examples if you disagree, of course. This was a STATUE-kiss; they were more like stone than rigid plastic. Granite, in fact. Yuck.
That thing is a great example of how to make a kiss between two men feel homophobic.
Nutshell: By episode 3, I thought this might be headed for an 8.5/10 to 9/10 range rating. I ended up giving it a 5/10. From episode 4 onward, it steadily sank like a stone into the icy depths of BL mediocrity. All the life and quirks that made the MLs interesting drained out of them. Kanade, especially, went from intriguing, neurotic weirdo to boring, middle-aged, woman librarian. Mashiro stayed barely more interesting to the end, but only barely. There were a couple sparks of his earlier, charming eccentricities in this finale, but only a couple. It made me sad.
Agree with this but calling it disgusting is a bit much. Honestly, why even bother making a tv series based on…
Agreed, except that most of what comes out of Thailand, post-2020, is terrible. Even so-called "NC" scenes are lame. Only people who only watch BLs would think such scenes are truly risque. lol
These two dudes are as cute as they are smokin' hot, and from what I can tell with no subs they're also pretty funny and have great chemistry. When things get going...wow.
I never watch shows raw, but I watched this. You should too! :D
YOU keep poking your head in my comments, Mother. lol
OK, so it was three months ago. The fact I thought it was six months just shows how forgettable this lame thing was/is.
I remember lots of weird shit about snakes, many actors ten years too young for their roles, including a "doctor" who looked 15, lots of bad acting...oh, and one of the leads smoked cigs constantly to let us know he was really, you know, mature and badass and shit. I also remember it was almost so bad it was good, but not quite.
You remind me of another fandom Mother Hen who commented obsessively and policed the comments of others during the original airing of KinnPorsche. She had a gaggle of junior hens who swarmed anyone who trashed the show, kind of like you're doing here...Mother. Are you her, with a new screen name? :)
Oh, and one of the most entertaining aspects of this thread you're monitoring as a Kpop site, are your underlings who frantically comment that they "can't believe how 'low' the rating still is," and encourage people new to the show to up-rate it to boost it to the (I suppose) rating of 10/10 it so clearly deserves.
Oh, wait...that was YOU. :D I think it's against MDL rules to pose as one of your own junior Hens, Mother. Also, shouldn't you be encouraging veteran RL viewers to go back and change their ratings to 10/10?
I look forward to your "poking your head" into this comment, Mother. You know you want to.
So...you're the Mother Hen of this Kpop fandom page, eh? Have you come up with a name for your "army?"
I love that you went and checked my watchlists. Just what a fandom Mother Hen would do. I watched three episodes of this about six months ago. If you had bothered to look in my DROPPED watchlist, you would know that. I stumbled across a short excerpt video on YT and came back here to remind myself if I had already tried this one. I had.
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It's Lily Alice again, trying to help destroy yet another actor's life and career, with one of her Lily Alice-style, sleazy "articles!"
What a surprise. Not.
Lily Alice: "... a blogger revealed that Chinese actor Xu Kai has long been engaged in group gambling..." NO, Lily, the blogger revealed nothing except an unproven accusation that you attempt, in your inimitable, salacious way, to make sound like a proven fact.
When someone is actually charged with something and/or you have hard evidence, try again. Your writing is sloppy, tabloid-ish, and has likely contributed to suicides. Please stop.
Oh, and a good actor too. :) Glad to see him land another NF gig.
They had come out to parents, friends, and coworkers right and left, and yet here they were, hiding alone in a deserted cafe and using watches instead of rings to symbolize their union. Rather than celebrating how far they'd come toward self-acceptance and pride, Mashiro's ceremony framed them as cowering fugitives, secretly performing a rite far too dark to be openly acknowledged.
From a writing perspective, this "wedding" was wildly inconsistent with the character's own values and progress; a move back into the shadows from which he and Kanade had supposedly emerged, hand-in-hand. The Mashiro I saw onscreen by that point in the story would have invited friends and family, and told anyone who didn't want to join in their happiness, to f**k themselves.
Any "cuteness" or beauty in that scene was killed by the hideously homophobic mannequin kiss, an inadvertent but perfect, stone-cold metaphor for the ceremony and circumstances it was meant to put an exclamation point on. It did just that, but in a way opposite to what was intended.
Wow, this is quite good! All three leads are exceptional, but the FL especially has great comic timing. Question: The site I'm watching this in four parts stitched together, the picture quality isn't great. Can anyone suggest a place to watch this with good quality?
If the rest is as good as the first 12 episodes, it's a shame this wasn't made with a proper budget. I just can't get on board with this cheap-ass, vertical aspect shit. Also, how is a well-written show like this not getting properly funded in the first place, when we see so many trash BLs with big budgets?
If you approach it in that manner, with a remote handy for all the boring parts, you might enjoy a laugh or two out of it. I was interested only in the gay son/mother/mother's gigolo story, so blessedly, I was able to fast-forward thru 2/3rd of it.
Quite bad. In an almost-good way.
4/10
What a strange, sad, lonely little ceremony to wrap things up.
I have so many questions about why the writers would have Mashiro come up with such a sweet, potentially moving idea, and then execute it in such an oddly downbeat way, that I won't try to list them all, but #1 is why, now that they have supportive friends and family, would he not include at least some of them at the "ceremony" itself, rather than as an afterthought to help them eat the cake. This felt like a C-bromance almost, trying to have a gay wedding but making sure it felt depressing and isolated so the couple wouldn't be perceived as happy, and no one in the audience would be inspired to go get gay-married.
And OMG, that mannequin kiss! WTAF? That is the stiffest, most static, and emotion-free mannequin kiss I have seen since the long-ago SOTUS freaked me out with the first mannequin kiss I ever saw, very early in my BL-watching days. In fact, I will now assert that this "wedding" kiss is the MOST mannequin-ish mannequin kiss in all of BL history. Feel free to nominate other atrocities/examples if you disagree, of course. This was a STATUE-kiss; they were more like stone than rigid plastic. Granite, in fact. Yuck.
That thing is a great example of how to make a kiss between two men feel homophobic.
Nutshell: By episode 3, I thought this might be headed for an 8.5/10 to 9/10 range rating. I ended up giving it a 5/10. From episode 4 onward, it steadily sank like a stone into the icy depths of BL mediocrity. All the life and quirks that made the MLs interesting drained out of them. Kanade, especially, went from intriguing, neurotic weirdo to boring, middle-aged, woman librarian. Mashiro stayed barely more interesting to the end, but only barely. There were a couple sparks of his earlier, charming eccentricities in this finale, but only a couple. It made me sad.
Not recommended.
5/10
Keep clucking, Mother Hen. :)
I never watch shows raw, but I watched this. You should too! :D
9/10 for heat and cuteness.
omg...you can't make this shit up...
No, wait...you DID make this shit up. :D
lol
OK, so it was three months ago. The fact I thought it was six months just shows how forgettable this lame thing was/is.
I remember lots of weird shit about snakes, many actors ten years too young for their roles, including a "doctor" who looked 15, lots of bad acting...oh, and one of the leads smoked cigs constantly to let us know he was really, you know, mature and badass and shit. I also remember it was almost so bad it was good, but not quite.
You remind me of another fandom Mother Hen who commented obsessively and policed the comments of others during the original airing of KinnPorsche. She had a gaggle of junior hens who swarmed anyone who trashed the show, kind of like you're doing here...Mother. Are you her, with a new screen name? :)
Oh, and one of the most entertaining aspects of this thread you're monitoring as a Kpop site, are your underlings who frantically comment that they "can't believe how 'low' the rating still is," and encourage people new to the show to up-rate it to boost it to the (I suppose) rating of 10/10 it so clearly deserves.
Oh, wait...that was YOU. :D I think it's against MDL rules to pose as one of your own junior Hens, Mother. Also, shouldn't you be encouraging veteran RL viewers to go back and change their ratings to 10/10?
I look forward to your "poking your head" into this comment, Mother. You know you want to.
So...you're the Mother Hen of this Kpop fandom page, eh?
Have you come up with a name for your "army?"
I love that you went and checked my watchlists. Just what a fandom Mother Hen would do. I watched three episodes of this about six months ago. If you had bothered to look in my DROPPED watchlist, you would know that. I stumbled across a short excerpt video on YT and came back here to remind myself if I had already tried this one. I had.
Come on, Mother, step it up.