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I find your urge to explain/excuse/justify the dad's behaviors and attitude odd, to say the least. I could say a lot more, but to what use? I disagree with everything you wrote.

The man is a cretinous monster who has yelled at, insulted, and degraded Kanade since he first showed the back of his head to him at the beginning of this episode, but yes, let's all feel bad for poor Father because Kanade dared to, gasp!, "yell" at him to butt out, something he should have done 15 years earlier. The problem is not that he yelled, but that he didn't kick dear Father in the nuts.

No, your urge is beyond odd. It is weird.
What are you trying to accomplish by defending the indefensible, whether in Japan or Transylvania? Perhaps you've lived under the Rising Sun too long; the repressive effects of its blazing homophobia are eating away at your soul.

We are now besties!

But, Jesus, he screamed it like a WW2 JP Imperial commander about to cut off a soldier's head for fucking up in a training exercise. What you're saying absolutely occurred to me too, but if the plot shows this dad actually having WANTED Kanade to accept and stand up for himself as a gay adult, I'm not going to be able to buy that. The seething hostility from the dad, the militaristic fury, from the moment Kanade returned home, is too over-the-top to later be read as a challenge to Kanade to overcome fear and accept oneself by manning up.

There would have had to be some openings in the dad's concrete barrier of contempt for that to play as real. Those openings aren't there. The barrier is hard and rock-solid. When he was ranting about Kanade not coming home, there was NO hint of him WANTING Kanade to come home, I only knew to suspect it was there because I've seen 10,000 angry-father BLs before.

You find Kanade "hot," as in sexy?

Yeah, I was all over this show four the first 4-5 episodes, but the characters have become dull; they've lost their quirkiness/charm.

Ep. 10:

Meh. Writing's all over the place. Kanade went from walking all over town, remembering various agonizing memories, including considering suicide, to, after a couple of beers with classmates he never felt close to, all he remembers is great times. wth?

The bit with Dad the Asshat near the end was weird. First Kanade goes wimp/weak/weepy, then briefly psycho/Imperial JP soldier/Samauri (which is great), but then he fades back into weepy and ends on a timid note.

Meh. What happened to the intriguing, quirky couple of odd ducks it was fun to watch in the early going, to what these guys seem to be now? Kanade seems most of the time like a humorless, prim & proper, middle-aged school marm/housewife.

Meh.

That was the old, Imperial Japanese/Samauri culture in his blood coming out...I wish Kanade had been able to find that same blood in himself.

Well...for me, I was glad when he STARTED to tell his dad off, but then he went back into wimpy-weak-crying Kanade. Yes, he said he didn't care about them and was never coming back, but he did it from a place of simpering weakness. Not impressive.

First of all, as a Lesbian you are definitionally unqualified to determine the attractiveness of me and my fellow male homos. Only we get to do that. I'm one, you're not.

Nothing in your second paragraph responds or applies to anything I wrote. Is your comment addressed to someone else?

"Most gay people live happy lives?"
Again, is this supposed to be something I wrote? Because I wrote no such thing. The closest to that I came was, "Also, lots of gay people have lives that are more happy than sad." LOTS OF is very much NOT the same thing as MOST. The distinction is huge. Please learn to read English and work on your comprehension before replying to any more of my comments.

Why is it a secret where you live? Please share. I'd like to know where it's a crime to wear a rainbow pin. I don't doubt your word, but I want to know what country this is so I can bitch on it. But again, since I never said MOST gay people live happy lives," to begin with, where you live is irrelevant.

Also, how does living in a horribly repressive society like yours connect you to the life of the main character in this show, who lives in a gay subculture where he goes out and very publicly gets laid every night of the week, without fear of ending up in prison for it? Not getting how your experience connects to his.

As for your last paragraph, I did not say the main character has to be a "good person" for a show to be successful. I love messed-up characters,, the more messed-up, the better. But THIS messed up character doesn't learn and grow OR not learn and get worse, he just repeats the same behaviors over and over and over with the same results. This resulted in a show that is the worst of all possible things: BORING.

Of course, if you like boring shows, then this is for you.

Second watch here. I'm about 1hr, 15m in and stopped until tomorrow.
I haven't watched this for several years, because the ending pissed me off so bad.

Two things I had forgotten:
1. How cute Pchy, the actor who plays Mew, was at this age.
2. How utterly twisted it is that Tong's mom not only allows her alkie husband's pathetic drinking to dominate and poison their home without kicking him out if he won't seek treatment, but that she drags her only remaining child into the middle of it by making him help take care of the old bastard. This ties directly into what pissed me off about the ending but I had forgotten how early in the story this is already a huge plot point. The drunk is bad news, but she's just as bad for enabling it. The writers have yet to give us a reason why she puts up with this sick situation.

I didn't claim you said "this show is the only one that portrays life realistically..." THIS is what you said:
"95%, or even 99% of the other BLs are either fantasy stories or depict a beautiful and perfect love story..."

That is an objectively false claim. There are very FEW BLs that "...depict a beautiful and perfect love story..." When one does end happily, it is nearly always after angst, pain, and suffering, kind of like in real life for gay AND straight people.

"I said it's among the few ones that does it the right way and doesn't sugarcoat things like the traditional BLs." That is not AT ALL what you wrote. If you think it is, go re-read yourself. If you still think it is, see a doctor.

Here's something else you said: "...a beautiful and perfect love story, which is something that in reality happens to one gay person in a million (if not less)." Beautiful and perfect love stories happen to NOBODY, gay or straight Nothing on Earth, especially in relationships, is "perfect." But the fact that you feel that fewer than one in a million gay people are able to find happiness in love is...tragic. Life and love are definitely more difficult for us gay folks for a host of obvious reasons, but your bitter conclusion that both are nearly impossible for us is both false and heart-breakingly sad.

This is very well said. Thank you. I agree completely. The dated stereotypical fem gay affectations across so many characters is a major put-off.

Yeah, the lead actor sucks in both acting craft and looks.
The absurd conceit that every man in sight was dropping at his feet because of his hotness and charm is one of the main reasons the show is a FAIL.

I'm guessing one of the biggest, juiciest, untold stories behind the scenes of this series' production is that since no major-name actor in wildly homophobic Korea would come within a mile of this role, somehow this third-tier dude ended up getting cast.

That said, it's bizarre to me that there are Korean movies as much as 20 years old, featuring future big stars in gay roles, so it's obvious doing so did not hurt their careers. If you check the bio page of SITBC's lead though, you will see that he is going nowhere fast. He's not talented.

I don't think he's the only one who's triggered here, Lana.

"hypnosis" lol

lol to your edit. We're no more tolerant, peace-loving, and bubbly than straight people, unfortunately.

wtf?

I cried too!
For the awfulness of the show and the hours of my life I'll never get back.

"fetishize" lol

lol