What a weird thing to say. It sounds like you’ve never actually experienced racism or had your culture mocked…
"...none of that changes the fact that you’ve never had to confront systemic oppression."
You are a mega-twit. You know zilch about me. But, I will share this: I am a gay man, raised in a conservative state who spent most of his pre-coming out life in various degrees of depression with occasional bouts of suicidal ideation. I survived religion, parochial school, stupidity, bigotry, rejection, fear, hyper-vigilance, and the certainty of an eternity in hell on a daily basis. Don't pontificate to me about not having to "confront systemic oppression," you arrogant flake. I know far too much on that topic from REAL "lived experience."
"...another loudmouth on the Internet..." Did you mention projection, Trollian?
Still waiting to hear all about your lived experience, but you're not about to share whatever that reality is because it would reveal your own lack of same, as well as the depth of your own privilege.
What a weird thing to say. It sounds like you’ve never actually experienced racism or had your culture mocked…
I wasn't being sarcastic, Dori, I was being inquisitive.
You spoke of my "privilege" while knowing almost nothing about my background. It's logical to want to know YOUR background, so those of us on the receiving end of your arrogant rantings can put them in context and perhaps cut you some slack for being silly.
Your dogged refusal to share your age, location, ethnicity, etc. is highly suspicious. So, I will just assume you are what you sound like, a female, white, wealthy 23-year-old Barnard College grad student.
What a weird thing to say. It sounds like you’ve never actually experienced racism or had your culture mocked…
Is that right, Trollian? Do people call me a troll? Tell me all about it.
You're the one telling me all about how your amazing lived experience gives you the perspective to speak for all oppressed persons. It seems a natural question to ask, from how many years in the cosmos and from what locations on Earth have you gleaned your keen insights? At least I asked...you make your assumptions relying only on your flawless wit and insights.
I also want to know your nationality and race. If, after all your preaching on racial/cultural oppression, blah blah blah, you think it's irrelevant to ask what is your age, race, and culture, it's more evidence of your twit-like outlook.
Watching dramas at 2.5x and 3x speed, them pontificating on boards as if you have actually seen the shows in question reveals the half-inch depth from which you formulate your outlook, which doesn't stop you from assuming that nasty, arrogant tone of yours.
That's why everyone on MDL knows what a nasty arrogant Trollian you are, Dorian.
What a weird thing to say. It sounds like you’ve never actually experienced racism or had your culture mocked…
Oh NOW I remember...you're the twit who watches dramas at 2.5x - 3x speed and yet feels qualified to form opinions on them. lol The arrogance meter goes into the red zone once again!
What a weird thing to say. It sounds like you’ve never actually experienced racism or had your culture mocked…
lol As I've said repeatedly here, you lack even a speck of self-awareness.
"...everyone you've interacted with knows it." lol Your head would explode if you knew the number of friend requests I get on a regular basis. No doubt, there will be another slew of them after this encounter with you. Lots of people lurk here, intimidated into silence by your belligerent self-righteousness, bleated from a privileged and condescending pulpit
YOU are known on these forums as a self-righteous, arrogant blowhard. You parade about pretending to have lived all over the world and under all oppressive systems/regimes, and thus understand the feelings and desires of the world's downtrodden.
You know zero about my "privilege" in the world. It's another sign of your arrogance that you presume to anyway.
Wow, imagine forming concepts from lived experience. "Lived experience" sounds like something you would spew on behalf of some oppressed minority, most of whom would laugh their asses off at your White Savior act.
What a weird thing to say. It sounds like you’ve never actually experienced racism or had your culture mocked…
So, Dorian the Trollian patrols the world, taking notes from all suppressed ethnicities, whether they want them to or not, to determine for some imaginary world conference on humor where the precise line from humor to insult/bigotry lies for each oppressed population, is this correct?
"You proved you’ve never had to live it." Hey Trollian, how old are you and where do you live? Tell the truth, now....
What a weird thing to say. It sounds like you’ve never actually experienced racism or had your culture mocked…
You ARE "pc police." Wear that badge proudly, arrogant child.
The people of the world don't need you presuming to run around, defending them from Korean promo videos in which women horrendously danced in Indian traditional garb. They'd tell you to get a life.
Together, India and Indonesia contain 2 billion people, 25% of the world total; yet in your arrogance, you see them as a downtrodden minority. Only in your head and because you're doing a White Savior routine here.
Do you imagine that Indians and Indonesians don't mock Westerners?
What a weird thing to say. It sounds like you’ve never actually experienced racism or had your culture mocked…
You're exceedingly full of yourself. Oh...also self-righteous.
Einstein said what he said about "laughing at themselves" and also fought fascism, racism, antisemitism, and supported civil rights because he understood/had a feeling for this thing called...nuance.
You lack that understanding/feeling. Your world is black/white. Hopefully, one day that soapbox from which you self-righteously proclaim, will shatter. After you fall and then get up, perhaps you'll have matured into wisdom.
What a weird thing to say. It sounds like you’ve never actually experienced racism or had your culture mocked…
Is it your belief that Koreans don't mock and insult Japanese and Chinese people? Korea is one of the most insular, racially/culturally monolithic countries in the developed world. There are youtube videos made by Black and Caucasian people, showing them walking around in Seoul's two nightlife districts. The stares and comments are hilarious...and telling.
Stereotypes are what they are because there is always a core truth behind them. That's also why a lot of great humor uses stereotypes to powerful effect, whether to shatter them or strengthen them. Context, intention, tone, and location are important elements of whether a joke based on a stereotype lands as funny or not. But you don't do nuance.
What a weird thing to say. It sounds like you’ve never actually experienced racism or had your culture mocked…
Thanks for that lecture on cultural sensitivity and proper forms of comedy. lol I'm sure others are as bored by it as I am.
I am American, of German descent from both sides. My siblings and I have been referred to as "krauts" off and on all our lives by good friends. Actually, I took it as a term of endearment and something that set us apart in a fun/good way. And I'm sure I slammed right back with slurs appropriate to the ethnicity of my friends. We laughed. Nobody thought to take serious offense at any of it.
Now, to help you understand, the line is crossed with words like "n****r." If I have to explain to you the difference between "kraut" and the N-word, you're not worth engaging. No one cares that you can't tell the difference. Most people can and do.
It is hilarious how you denounce your evil grandmother for doing the same thing you did up above: "What happened to humor that’s actually clever, respectful, and inclusive?" hahaha You already sound like your grandma and you you don't have the excuse of being old.
Also, you used "Boomer" as an insult. Putting an entire generation in one box and dragging them with a derogatory label seems pretty culturally insensitive and ageist to me. You do know it was "Boomers" who made huge strides in civil and voting rights in the US, often at the risk of injury, financial ruin, and even death, right? No?
Imagine...different individuals within the same generation acting individually and being different from each other. What a concept, eh?
What a weird thing to say. It sounds like you’ve never actually experienced racism or had your culture mocked…
Why do you feel that Indonesians/etc. are lower than Koreans ("punching down")? You seem pretty racist to me.
I have seen Hanbok mocked in several youtube videos. They were funny. I laughed. All my fave actors and films are Korean. Did your head explode?
"...humor that's clever, respectful, and inclusive." Can you cite an example? Humor that has to pass a PC test before being dispensed is no humor at all. I bet you're fun at parties...
OF COURSE, there comes a point where a line is crossed from parody/funny to racist/evil. That line is wide, however, and the video in question here doesn't approach the edge of it.
Comedy, like all art, exists in part to push boundaries and to offend. Some of the funniest bits ever written or performed are great because they make people laugh even as they know they "shouldn't" be laughing. Comedy afflicts the status quo, as well it should.
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You are a mega-twit. You know zilch about me. But, I will share this: I am a gay man, raised in a conservative state who spent most of his pre-coming out life in various degrees of depression with occasional bouts of suicidal ideation. I survived religion, parochial school, stupidity, bigotry, rejection, fear, hyper-vigilance, and the certainty of an eternity in hell on a daily basis. Don't pontificate to me about not having to "confront systemic oppression," you arrogant flake. I know far too much on that topic from REAL "lived experience."
"...another loudmouth on the Internet..." Did you mention projection, Trollian?
Still waiting to hear all about your lived experience, but you're not about to share whatever that reality is because it would reveal your own lack of same, as well as the depth of your own privilege.
You spoke of my "privilege" while knowing almost nothing about my background. It's logical to want to know YOUR background, so those of us on the receiving end of your arrogant rantings can put them in context and perhaps cut you some slack for being silly.
Your dogged refusal to share your age, location, ethnicity, etc. is highly suspicious. So, I will just assume you are what you sound like, a female, white, wealthy 23-year-old Barnard College grad student.
You're the one telling me all about how your amazing lived experience gives you the perspective to speak for all oppressed persons. It seems a natural question to ask, from how many years in the cosmos and from what locations on Earth have you gleaned your keen insights? At least I asked...you make your assumptions relying only on your flawless wit and insights.
I also want to know your nationality and race. If, after all your preaching on racial/cultural oppression, blah blah blah, you think it's irrelevant to ask what is your age, race, and culture, it's more evidence of your twit-like outlook.
Watching dramas at 2.5x and 3x speed, them pontificating on boards as if you have actually seen the shows in question reveals the half-inch depth from which you formulate your outlook, which doesn't stop you from assuming that nasty, arrogant tone of yours.
That's why everyone on MDL knows what a nasty arrogant Trollian you are, Dorian.
The arrogance meter goes into the red zone once again!
How old are you and where do you live, Trollian?
As I've said repeatedly here, you lack even a speck of self-awareness.
"...everyone you've interacted with knows it." lol Your head would explode if you knew the number of friend requests I get on a regular basis. No doubt, there will be another slew of them after this encounter with you. Lots of people lurk here, intimidated into silence by your belligerent self-righteousness, bleated from a privileged and condescending pulpit
YOU are known on these forums as a self-righteous, arrogant blowhard. You parade about pretending to have lived all over the world and under all oppressive systems/regimes, and thus understand the feelings and desires of the world's downtrodden.
You know zero about my "privilege" in the world. It's another sign of your arrogance that you presume to anyway.
Wow, imagine forming concepts from lived experience. "Lived experience" sounds like something you would spew on behalf of some oppressed minority, most of whom would laugh their asses off at your White Savior act.
"You proved you’ve never had to live it."
Hey Trollian, how old are you and where do you live?
Tell the truth, now....
The people of the world don't need you presuming to run around, defending them from Korean promo videos in which women horrendously danced in Indian traditional garb. They'd tell you to get a life.
Together, India and Indonesia contain 2 billion people, 25% of the world total; yet in your arrogance, you see them as a downtrodden minority. Only in your head and because you're doing a White Savior routine here.
Do you imagine that Indians and Indonesians don't mock Westerners?
Oh...also self-righteous.
Einstein said what he said about "laughing at themselves" and also fought fascism, racism, antisemitism, and supported civil rights because he understood/had a feeling for this thing called...nuance.
You lack that understanding/feeling. Your world is black/white. Hopefully, one day that soapbox from which you self-righteously proclaim, will shatter. After you fall and then get up, perhaps you'll have matured into wisdom.
Pssst...Dorian the Trollian thinks they're rebelling.
Stereotypes are what they are because there is always a core truth behind them. That's also why a lot of great humor uses stereotypes to powerful effect, whether to shatter them or strengthen them. Context, intention, tone, and location are important elements of whether a joke based on a stereotype lands as funny or not. But you don't do nuance.
I am American, of German descent from both sides. My siblings and I have been referred to as "krauts" off and on all our lives by good friends. Actually, I took it as a term of endearment and something that set us apart in a fun/good way. And I'm sure I slammed right back with slurs appropriate to the ethnicity of my friends. We laughed. Nobody thought to take serious offense at any of it.
Now, to help you understand, the line is crossed with words like "n****r." If I have to explain to you the difference between "kraut" and the N-word, you're not worth engaging. No one cares that you can't tell the difference. Most people can and do.
It is hilarious how you denounce your evil grandmother for doing the same thing you did up above: "What happened to humor that’s actually clever, respectful, and inclusive?" hahaha You already sound like your grandma and you you don't have the excuse of being old.
Also, you used "Boomer" as an insult. Putting an entire generation in one box and dragging them with a derogatory label seems pretty culturally insensitive and ageist to me. You do know it was "Boomers" who made huge strides in civil and voting rights in the US, often at the risk of injury, financial ruin, and even death, right? No?
Imagine...different individuals within the same generation acting individually and being different from each other. What a concept, eh?
I have seen Hanbok mocked in several youtube videos. They were funny. I laughed. All my fave actors and films are Korean. Did your head explode?
"...humor that's clever, respectful, and inclusive." Can you cite an example? Humor that has to pass a PC test before being dispensed is no humor at all. I bet you're fun at parties...
OF COURSE, there comes a point where a line is crossed from parody/funny to racist/evil. That line is wide, however, and the video in question here doesn't approach the edge of it.
Comedy, like all art, exists in part to push boundaries and to offend. Some of the funniest bits ever written or performed are great because they make people laugh even as they know they "shouldn't" be laughing. Comedy afflicts the status quo, as well it should.