I don’t understand jiwons point of view whatsoever for her reaction to yura he literally said he broke off the…
it because she is afraid to be "the cheater" it's irrational but she has felt the feeling of being cheated on and the product of cheating the idea that jihyuk also got with their fiancee in the past life got to her, she just need time to make up her mind not to mention this happen at the same time as ms yang cancer and how it's all new information for jiwon
so is it better to read the webtoon or watch the show?
watch, or both, I love the webtoon but the webtoon has weird plot holes and the drama flesh out the character, make the character more believable and the plot more streamlines
Some of the directions this adaptation has gone in has made some of the satisfying moments from the story less…
the webnovel write the plot sequence differently while the webtoon shortcut many revelation. The reason I disagree on the good job or bad job is the drama hasn't ended and there will be more revelation accordingly like in the webnovel simply because their story hasn't ended while the webtoon has ended. You already feel satisfied since the webtoon is available at all chapter but if you count that each webtoon chapter is one week, that's way more unsatisfying by weekly than this drama.
the webtoon also written as short and fast adaption which is why many things are entirely scrapped off like jihyuk backstory+oh yura. Therefore, the comparison is not balance as you already got everything from the webtoon yet still has 4 hours more in the drama.
I actually like EP 12, it's a much needed closure for the supposedly "perfect" character. Also I don't mind the crazy ex-fiancee. Even emotional wise, I want to see jiwon stand up outside of people she knows from the past to see how much she is grown. So far, she is ahead because she came from the future but meeting the unknown and solve it will make her more grounded and stable like a land. The reason she changes is because she has been operating under the assumption that she knows it all, she knows the future but this time, an unknown future comes to her like all of us, she needs to learn how to live in the present, rather than the past (flashback), the forgotten future (her memory) or her idea that she knew what gonna happen.
I'm prob in the minority to say that ep 12 was fine? It just felt like slightly clunky set up episode. I will…
EP 12 is fine, it's good when talking about plot point and story progression, dragging the minhwan and soomin story will make the story stretched too much. They start talking about jihyuk character, they also develop his backstory, manager kang story also getting boost and it feels like a logical step to wrap the story. it's the a good pace because jihyuk conflict makes jiwon goes deep into her heart and give her time to address the issue with her mother and her other trauma.
I think emotion wise, viewer will feel that the heroine deserve a break because yura is such a hated character. On the other hand, if this episode has nothing breaking out, the viewer will also complain that the story got draggy. If you look at what happened in ep 12, it's really good at dwelling deep into the character emotion and also established that it's okay to hate yura, she is there for the plot and to have all the necessary piece to move and get resolved.
Today's episode was frustrating to watch lolHe tells her straight up that he thought he could marry without love,…
she is running with her emotion, it can happen in argument, that's why you should revisit your argument after calming down.
Imo I like that she said she is confused and I think the mvp is heeyon to provide more context on yura. Jihyuk said all the right things too, he has ended the relationship and there were never feeling in this relationship for him. As someone who sees love changes, jihyuk logic about marry without love has some basis, after all, his parents stay together without the "love"
Some of the directions this adaptation has gone in has made some of the satisfying moments from the story less…
the drama don't follow the webtoon cause the webtoon don't follow the webnovel, the drama more closely resemble the novel, I don't mean to cheer for the bully, what I mean is they know they were wrong, they try to contact jiwon, they show to jiwon that they get the message but jiwon want to move on. The development is about how they actually changes, soomin doesn't changes and don't accept any explanation, this bullies, they don't do the same things anymore, they don't even dress like that, they do it specifically for soomin's wedding when they aren't getting invitation despite being with her for years and defended soomin. Why can't they have grudge to soomin when soomin has been manipulated them for years? just because they express it differently than jiwon doesn't mean they are less deserve to have bone to pick? They didn't bully people based on rumor or innocent people anymore. It's like normal people can't be appreciated for some realisation they did when they are older and has to be punished for the things they did years ago. You don't have to cheer them but why go so far to not acknowledge that their character has development in the story?
Some of the directions this adaptation has gone in has made some of the satisfying moments from the story less…
it's not redemption though, the drama even said it that, what I mean by development is they actually listen and try to contact jiwon with going to eunho but jiwon refuse, jiwon had move on, the wedding scenes is meant to fulfill their and jiwon idea that soomin can't get away for what she did. I don't consider going to soomin wedding as the same bullying they did to jiwon, it's malicious but it's one time and they didn't contact her again. also the drama follow the webnovel and not the webtoon,
I like all the relationship happen in EP 12, it has angst but the character say that they are confused, angry, being possessive and their agreement / disagreement on something. The highlight is definitely how infidelity ruins relationship, not just between spouses but with their children. How it's not a white and black situation where you know your parents love someone else and you stop loving them and vice versa. How you see your sibling born from different "love" It's complicated and it feels real that the character actually confused. Our heroine, despite the downturn actually on a winning streak and this time, she actually given time to rest and the plot imo also give her time to sort out her unfinished relationship, the one she is afraid to face. Also I think you can end relationship unilaterally, it can be unfair for the other person but you can't force feelings that aren't there. Even one sided divorce is permitted under certain condition, what needed is to inform the other party.
in EP 12, I actually like how minhwan thought that they just need to move on with their life, like I can see how other people shaped him. He is still trash but sometimes he said the right things before changing line after talking it with his mum or soomin, minhwan, you has potential, get a grip
My favourite part about the whole bullies crashing the wedding situation was how Ji won reacted at the end when…
what I mean is that they acknowledge that they were wrong to jiwon, it's obvious they did this for jiwon, they even look at each other and smiling, eunho even said that they did because of they want to apologised. I don't think its shown in the drama but in the webtoon and webnovel, they texted her saying that they were sorry and jiwon didn't reply like now, jiwon wants to move on but jiwon also didn't know that they were invited to the wedding.
They grow up imo because they actually care for the truth, they went to eunho, they listen and ponder about their decision, they stop using violence. Also they've been asking eunho to meet with jiwon but he didn't, remember on the restaurant, they asked eunho to set up a meeting with jiwon. They feel guilty and want to say sorry. Also, jiwon had said that things don't change, jiwon had not forgive them and will not but they want to show that they are sorry, that's the development. When people know exactly about their wrong and want to do something to give back, that's the development.
Another thing is soomin didn't invite the high school friend, only eunho was invited and the girls was hanging out with him. Eunho said, I showed it to Yeji. Soomin also reap what she sow, she has been manipulating these 3 too, remember how they asked soomin to review their resume/cover letter and also buy food for her? they did it for jiwon and also because soomin has been digging her claw on them. If they had been invited properly, they probably wouldn't do it but they were left out, like soomin has no use for them anymore.
On the other hand, the reason they were nasty to jiwon was because soomin provocation, there are nuances in this interaction. They didn't pick jiwon because she is weak or nuisance in their eyes, they came for her specifically because soo min has been spreading lies throughout high school about jiwon and they thought, Ji won is the bully so jiwon also deserve the cat fight. The high school narrative is "Jiwon the nerd bully the weak Soomin because Soomin is prettier". They weren't written as the one who stomped the weak, they were written as protective for the weak but their methods is wrong.
I did not see the bullies so called character’s development. They were bullies then, and bullies now. Their…
what I mean is that they acknowledge that they were wrong to jiwon, it's obvious they did this for jiwon, they even look at each other and smiling, eunho even said that they did because of they want to apologised. I don't think its shown in the drama but in the webtoon and webnovel, they texted her saying that they were sorry but jiwon also didn't know that they were invited to the wedding.
They grow up imo because they actually care for the truth, they went to eunho, they listen and ponder about their decision, they stop using violence. Also they've been asking eunho to meet with jiwon but he didn't, remember on the restaurant, they asked eunho to set up a meeting with jiwon. They feel guilty and want to say sorry. Also, even if they didn't ask for forgiveness, nothing in their life changes as jiwon wants to move on but they want to set things straight.
high school mentality : we were punishing you for tormenting and taking what the soomin has, it not just about the boyfriend things, all the dialogue has pointed out that soomin has been saying that jiwon leech off her and pretending like jiwon doesn't do anything. Their word is " it because soomin is so nice that she always defended you but we are not that nnice" soomin was pretending to be jiwon while telltale it the bullies
now mentality : let's show who you are on your wedding day because you tried so hard not to invite us and has been manipulating us to do your bidding. soomin didn't invite the high school friend, only eunho was invited and the girls was hanging out with him. Soomin reap what she saw, she has been manipulating these 3 too, remember how they asked soomin to review their resume/cover letter and also buy food for her? they did it for jiwon and also because soomin has been digging her claw on them. If they had been invited properly, they probably wouldn't do it but they were left out like soomin has no use for them anymore.
It feels good that the high school bully gets like character development off screen but also on screen, this isn't to minimalized the impact but they did feel grow up despite being similar with their old self. People do changes, one way or another, recognizing their flaw and also rectifying their mistake. This drama shows that other people also have their own redemption, some things can happen later like the whole friend realization but another things to consider is people don't know if you don't talk about it. In eunho case, he doesn't mind clarifying anything but he doesn't get the chances and he doesn't know that he needs to.
Its at the earliest Feb 2014 now. They came back in April I believe, Episode 6 had a months long gap happen and…
in ep 1 , we see that jiwon was scolded by the mother in law to get treated and told her not to tell the HR/company so jiwon case is severe because she recognised it late and also start treatment very very late. in Yang Ju ran case, the HR has found out
I feel bad because the mother in law is insufferable but then I got reminded of how soomin for all their friendship…
iirc in the webtoon, jiwon gave her a big money present, personally to soomin so soomin can feel more at ease after unemployed and can have her own agency
ngl idk why I was feeling bad for su min as well😭.... ik i shouldn't but she's seems pathetic fr
I feel bad because the mother in law is insufferable but then I got reminded of how soomin for all their friendship treats jiwon badly and then don't think about it, jiwon did nothing to soomin yet she just used her.
Also, the feels bad also come because soomin story / jiwon past story with mil is quite commom, it's like soomin realised she got a bad deal but can't pull over or she lets herself drowning in a swamp, more in the spoiler
it's irrational but she has felt the feeling of being cheated on and the product of cheating
the idea that jihyuk also got with their fiancee in the past life got to her,
she just need time to make up her mind
not to mention this happen at the same time as ms yang cancer and how it's all new information for jiwon
I love the webtoon but the webtoon has weird plot holes and the drama flesh out the character, make the character more believable and the plot more streamlines
The reason I disagree on the good job or bad job is the drama hasn't ended and there will be more revelation accordingly like in the webnovel simply because their story hasn't ended while the webtoon has ended.
You already feel satisfied since the webtoon is available at all chapter but if you count that each webtoon chapter is one week, that's way more unsatisfying by weekly than this drama.
the webtoon also written as short and fast adaption which is why many things are entirely scrapped off like jihyuk backstory+oh yura. Therefore, the comparison is not balance as you already got everything from the webtoon yet still has 4 hours more in the drama.
it's a much needed closure for the supposedly "perfect" character.
Also I don't mind the crazy ex-fiancee. Even emotional wise, I want to see jiwon stand up outside of people she knows from the past to see how much she is grown.
So far, she is ahead because she came from the future but meeting the unknown and solve it will make her more grounded and stable like a land.
The reason she changes is because she has been operating under the assumption that she knows it all, she knows the future but this time, an unknown future comes to her like all of us,
she needs to learn how to live in the present, rather than the past (flashback), the forgotten future (her memory) or her idea that she knew what gonna happen.
They start talking about jihyuk character, they also develop his backstory, manager kang story also getting boost and it feels like a logical step to wrap the story.
it's the a good pace because jihyuk conflict makes jiwon goes deep into her heart and give her time to address the issue with her mother and her other trauma.
I think emotion wise, viewer will feel that the heroine deserve a break because yura is such a hated character.
On the other hand, if this episode has nothing breaking out, the viewer will also complain that the story got draggy.
If you look at what happened in ep 12, it's really good at dwelling deep into the character emotion and also established that it's okay to hate yura, she is there for the plot and to have all the necessary piece to move and get resolved.
and in Isekai and Time Travel, The truck is part of the establishment,
it comes with the package
and in Isekai and Time Travel, The truck is part of the establishment,
it comes with the package
Imo I like that she said she is confused and I think the mvp is heeyon to provide more context on yura. Jihyuk said all the right things too, he has ended the relationship and there were never feeling in this relationship for him. As someone who sees love changes, jihyuk logic about marry without love has some basis, after all, his parents stay together without the "love"
I don't mean to cheer for the bully, what I mean is they know they were wrong, they try to contact jiwon, they show to jiwon that they get the message but jiwon want to move on.
The development is about how they actually changes, soomin doesn't changes and don't accept any explanation, this bullies, they don't do the same things anymore, they don't even dress like that, they do it specifically for soomin's wedding when they aren't getting invitation despite being with her for years and defended soomin.
Why can't they have grudge to soomin when soomin has been manipulated them for years? just because they express it differently than jiwon doesn't mean they are less deserve to have bone to pick?
They didn't bully people based on rumor or innocent people anymore.
It's like normal people can't be appreciated for some realisation they did when they are older and has to be punished for the things they did years ago.
You don't have to cheer them but why go so far to not acknowledge that their character has development in the story?
what I mean by development is they actually listen and try to contact jiwon with going to eunho but jiwon refuse, jiwon had move on,
the wedding scenes is meant to fulfill their and jiwon idea that soomin can't get away for what she did.
I don't consider going to soomin wedding as the same bullying they did to jiwon, it's malicious but it's one time and they didn't contact her again.
also the drama follow the webnovel and not the webtoon,
aaaah you fools
The highlight is definitely how infidelity ruins relationship, not just between spouses but with their children.
How it's not a white and black situation where you know your parents love someone else and you stop loving them and vice versa.
How you see your sibling born from different "love"
It's complicated and it feels real that the character actually confused.
Our heroine, despite the downturn actually on a winning streak and this time, she actually given time to rest and the plot imo also give her time to sort out her unfinished relationship, the one she is afraid to face.
Also I think you can end relationship unilaterally, it can be unfair for the other person but you can't force feelings that aren't there. Even one sided divorce is permitted under certain condition, what needed is to inform the other party.
like I can see how other people shaped him.
He is still trash but sometimes he said the right things before changing line after talking it with his mum or soomin,
minhwan, you has potential, get a grip
it's obvious they did this for jiwon, they even look at each other and smiling, eunho even said that they did because of they want to apologised.
I don't think its shown in the drama but in the webtoon and webnovel, they texted her saying that they were sorry and jiwon didn't reply like now, jiwon wants to move on but jiwon also didn't know that they were invited to the wedding.
They grow up imo because they actually care for the truth, they went to eunho, they listen and ponder about their decision, they stop using violence. Also they've been asking eunho to meet with jiwon but he didn't, remember on the restaurant, they asked eunho to set up a meeting with jiwon. They feel guilty and want to say sorry. Also, jiwon had said that things don't change, jiwon had not forgive them and will not but they want to show that they are sorry, that's the development. When people know exactly about their wrong and want to do something to give back, that's the development.
Another thing is soomin didn't invite the high school friend, only eunho was invited and the girls was hanging out with him. Eunho said, I showed it to Yeji.
Soomin also reap what she sow, she has been manipulating these 3 too, remember how they asked soomin to review their resume/cover letter and also buy food for her?
they did it for jiwon and also because soomin has been digging her claw on them.
If they had been invited properly, they probably wouldn't do it but they were left out, like soomin has no use for them anymore.
On the other hand, the reason they were nasty to jiwon was because soomin provocation, there are nuances in this interaction. They didn't pick jiwon because she is weak or nuisance in their eyes, they came for her specifically because soo min has been spreading lies throughout high school about jiwon and they thought, Ji won is the bully so jiwon also deserve the cat fight. The high school narrative is "Jiwon the nerd bully the weak Soomin because Soomin is prettier".
They weren't written as the one who stomped the weak, they were written as protective for the weak but their methods is wrong.
it's obvious they did this for jiwon, they even look at each other and smiling, eunho even said that they did because of they want to apologised.
I don't think its shown in the drama but in the webtoon and webnovel, they texted her saying that they were sorry but jiwon also didn't know that they were invited to the wedding.
They grow up imo because they actually care for the truth, they went to eunho, they listen and ponder about their decision, they stop using violence. Also they've been asking eunho to meet with jiwon but he didn't, remember on the restaurant, they asked eunho to set up a meeting with jiwon. They feel guilty and want to say sorry. Also, even if they didn't ask for forgiveness, nothing in their life changes as jiwon wants to move on but they want to set things straight.
high school mentality : we were punishing you for tormenting and taking what the soomin has,
it not just about the boyfriend things, all the dialogue has pointed out that soomin has been saying that jiwon leech off her and pretending like jiwon doesn't do anything.
Their word is " it because soomin is so nice that she always defended you but we are not that nnice"
soomin was pretending to be jiwon while telltale it the bullies
now mentality : let's show who you are on your wedding day because you tried so hard not to invite us and has been manipulating us to do your bidding.
soomin didn't invite the high school friend, only eunho was invited and the girls was hanging out with him.
Soomin reap what she saw, she has been manipulating these 3 too, remember how they asked soomin to review their resume/cover letter and also buy food for her?
they did it for jiwon and also because soomin has been digging her claw on them.
If they had been invited properly, they probably wouldn't do it but they were left out like soomin has no use for them anymore.
People do changes, one way or another, recognizing their flaw and also rectifying their mistake. This drama shows that other people also have their own redemption, some things can happen later like the whole friend realization but another things to consider is people don't know if you don't talk about it. In eunho case, he doesn't mind clarifying anything but he doesn't get the chances and he doesn't know that he needs to.
in Yang Ju ran case, the HR has found out
Also, the feels bad also come because soomin story / jiwon past story with mil is quite commom, it's like soomin realised she got a bad deal but can't pull over or she lets herself drowning in a swamp, more in the spoiler
the plot really work hard