I think it's not just because of the mother, the drama adds some context on the game when soomin motto is why…
they've been friend for a long time and soo min knows how nice and gullible jiwon's inside. Soomin imo never apologised, she makes excuses all the time. I don't think jiwon trusted her after that but in soomin's mind, it's not her fault that jiwon's can't accept her, it's ji won's fault, jiwons part is to help soomin and jiwon let her be like that for a long time so it's all because jiwon, ji won changes and make soomin miserable.
I see all of this when soomin start talking during the camping trips.
Some of these changes are quite unnecessary and seem to somewhat change a lot of what made the webtoon so great…
this drama is more accurate to the webnovel than the webtoon as stated on the description that it's an adaptation of the novel, in the early mmh webtoon, I manage to read the webnovel but it's not there anymore. The webtoon fast forward many things like jihyuk's engagement and his family story. The webtoon also quite short. I remember that 1 episodes of the webtoon is around 2-4 chapters of the original novel so like about 10 chapters in webtoon can be around 20 chapter in webnovel.
on another note, the drama use 2013 as the 10 years into the past, not 2009 like the webtoon so a lot of stuff was adjusted to fit the timeline. The original webnovel and webtoon use actual event in some of their plot therefore the drama also has to use adapt, as example the "executive gets mad at plane", it referred to actual event back in 2013-2014. "A cabin crew chief says he was forced to kneel and ask forgiveness by the daughter of Korean Air's chairman, before being ordered off a flight."
but I do remember that it's more, like many stuff just wasn't there, I stopped reading the webnovel since the webtoon is faster the translation got cut off.
I get it Soo Min wants to win in life but why must she drag Kang Ji Won down (I read the webtoon) I am guessing…
I think it's not just because of the mother, the drama adds some context on the game when soomin motto is why work hard if you can asked people to do it for you. She has superiority and victim complex where she is above doing the hard work and she deserve the leeway because she is pitiful and pretty. She keeps jiwon because jiwon is useful, she is nice , gullible, actually capable so soomin can leech of her and when jiwon tries to break free, the only she can do is to drag jiwon with her. Soomin in the drama has more nuances and we can see that she has inferiority complex towards jiwon but doesn't want to admit it. She also has always been successful with just asking people so she thought it's all will work out.
I know my opinion is probably unpopular, but I don't care.I find Song Ha Yoon acting better than Park Min Young.…
Idk about that, I get why it looks like that since soo min actress kinda have more meat in the story, she goes through roller coaster of emotion on the other hand, pmy smiles when she is fakely for soo min and genuinely happy with hee yon feels different, her mannerism changes from ep 1 to 10 is a good way to see her acting ability the way she speaks to eunho and jihyuk is all different, you can feel her different emotion to different people just in the way she talked. I am not even her fans to say this, soo min actress has more reactionary acting where you can see how good she is at executed the unhinged character
I know my opinion is probably unpopular, but I don't care.I find Song Ha Yoon acting better than Park Min Young.…
Idk about that, I get why it looks like that since soo min actress kinda have more meat in the story, she goes through roller coaster of emotion on the other hand, pmy smiles when she is fakely for soo min and genuinely happy with hee yon feels different, her mannerism changes from ep 1 to 10 is a good way to see her acting ability the way she speaks to eunho and jihyuk is all different, you can fee her different emotion to different people just by the way she talked. I am not even her fans to say this, soo min actress has more reactionary acting where you can see how good she is at executed the unhinged character
Webtoon spoilerā¼ļø I think with the car accident somehow might transfer from jihyuk to minhwan. From the webtoon…
yeah, I also thought the same, this is how they changes something from the webtoon related to jihyuk frankly said, idk why and how jihyuk even died in the first timeline
Idk if he will save ji soo because if he didn't die, will ji soo be walking with the model that night? Will that…
like in other people case when yii jae took over, their death can be prolonged cause only death knows the actual time of someone's death. as example, all the people we've seen died haven't died at the present cause yii jae is back. even if she died at the same time, she can die for natural cause and in different places and not by rage murderer on freak accident, the way people die changes, death said the same too, she also can die way more happy and without regret, especially when yiijae can come clean and apologize to her, it changes everything
Wondering if there's anyone who still thinks the leads don't have chemistry or that Na In Woo was the wrong choice…
they have chemistry but I also hope people realised that this is ji won's drama, In woo character is not the focal point and he did a great job showing that he indeed in love but also stuck in his own predicament. Ji Hyuk can't do more because the main of the story is not that ji won has to fight to ji hyuk but ji hyuk was always there and ji jwon didn't notice him
Iām so glad Jiwon finally stood up for herself but honestly I still donāt understand Sumin. Is it because…
Soomin action has been explained a little in the drama but not her full backstory. She wants the attention and stuff but doesn't want to work for it nor knowing her own capability so she always use other people and jiwon is a very gullible person. She think jiwon deserve it because jiwon doesn't know better and jiwon should be happy that soomin notice her and becomes her friend. She likes using people to get things she wanted and jiwon is one of her most useful tools. Remember how she advised jiwon in the camping trip? how she get close to manager kim and how she keeps begging ji won for idea? it because she has been using people to her advantage
I would be completely shocked and laughing if I was browsing a second hand market and saw someone asking for a…
this things is real, aside from people use it to trick other, other people use it for props like for some picture related to pregnancy or to do some demonstration, it's not always shady business
Can someone clear my doubt who has watched webtoon, will ms. yang get stomach cancer?
yes , like everyone said she'll get cured, if we look to the past, the reason jiwon in such state because they delayed her treatment and she actually died from accident, not from the cancer
YES YES YESSS!!! LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO!!!!!!!that preview was so so soo good, i literally watched it 3 timesand…
I know someone who sent the noose pic tied in the house to their relative to insinuate suicide, the relative all comes to see what happen and that person just eating instant noodles like they never send the pictures. That person also do more stuff but also acted like the relative are all "thinking too much". There are a lot of people out there.
If ep9 was as amazing as it is, it's because we have all the build ups and character developments and understandings…
I love whatever they did with Ji hyuk, also some of its was in the web novel but not told in the webtoon. Like ji hyuk's family and his blind date partner.
The fact that our protagonist knows that her (future) husband has abusive tendencies and still insists on setting…
I feel like you ignore minhwan and soomin own agency here, they could just not do it. Like in the previous life when ji won didn't set them up. If you think of it simply, ji wons knows they will end up together, why can't she helps them getting together faster?
Also minhwan is somewhat aware of soomin's trickery but he also don't guard himself. On the other hand, soomin also aware little by little that minhwan isn't all that and she pick him herself. It's not that jiwon forced them together, she gave them spaces, they even know they are cheating behind jiwon, saying stuff like "we shouldn't do this" so this also their choices.
Also, jiwon was meek and don't know how to stand up for herself in the past while soomin actually know how make people favour her so there is possibility that soomin can be better off with minhwan, not become abused by the system in his family and fight back. The whole premised is about jiwon getting her life back and at the same time, giving this "friend" and "boyfriend" spaces, they took the chances themselves. Like on the past, they could've not cheating with each other.
till ep 7 the mc really want to end it quick, but last episode about mom delete everything that happen.im not…
you are really read this wrong, at the end, he realised that he wants to survive and he fight the bad guy using other people capability, reminding him that the skill you learn along the way stay within you so don't feel like failure when you actually busy living. He goes down on his knees and begs Death to give him a last chance to live his life as Yi-Jae. All these reincarnations play significant roles in making Yi-Jae understand his sin. He also realizes why he is getting this painful punishment from Death. You said having his mother is cheap , on the other hand, his mother is one affected the most with his death, it's the final test from death, if he can't understand with this then he doesn't even deserve chances. What he gains throughout the 12 lives is perspective after he died, he thought his story had ended but on the opposite, human's life isn't an individual story, his life is represented in his tomb, his mum's visit, his gf book, how he also had encounter the beginning of the serial killer urge. He never contacted his mother throughout the early life and even if his action meant to make thing easier for his mum, it didn't happen like he wanted, his mum has to report to the police every week for things out of her capability. His gf flower was from her brother and he thought she'll be happy without him yet she is in deep sadness and still cherish their memory. He didn't start the live with no memory, he start it with realisation that he could wait for death. That's the point of the story, you need to wait for death, not inflicting death to other people and to yourself and this 12 episode shows that yii jae finally gets it after seeing it with his mother's eyes. He feels remorse and he understand the broader perspective that your life wasn't only about you, removing you, even if you think you are worthless doesn't mean the same things about other's people. He assumed people's thought when he really doesn't know all about people. This is my last reply cause I think you really don't watch the drama. It's fine to criticise but there is a point where the criticism can comes from lack of understanding and become invalid.
I think of it like "if death is inevitable, all the justice we seen happened will happen, just in different order".…
she also said that the god will give you the last judgment if he didn't manage to survive and you can enter people's live before their death, she also said that this is in a limbo, which means he isn't in the afterlife either. it's hinted, he never asked for more cause he desperately wanted to die it wasn't twisted, just because it doesn't spell it out for you word by word doesn't mean it wasn't there, mystery must be a bad genre if you have to spell out everything for the viewer to understand, this is my last reply
Irl nobody in their right mind would marry a guy with such a foul mouthed shrew of a mother. FL was such a dumbass…
idk if it that dumbass in the past, they've dated for years and this is why they want to get married, some people think their spouse will help them dealing with in-law because they marry their spouse. It is common in real life because you don't marry your in-law and many couple either break up or break with their in-law in this kind of scenario. I mean, I personally know someone who has to choose between his wife or mother because the mother is "always lonely" nobody really know the mother in-law "extreme loneliness" up until he gets married.
I didn't love the initial direction that this ep took with Soo Min character, yes she is manipulative, she is…
Soomin point of view is basically sum up to "kang ji won should be miserable beside me so I can perceived better by other people and feel better about myself"
she likes jiwon but in the way of treating jiwon like an accessory. If we go to the first timeline and the way she talks about her in the high school, it's about how soomin should be the good girls who is "shackled" by her friendship with jiwon, I agree that soomin does "love" jiwon but not as person but as a tool to get what she wanted and now soomin is confused and furious that her "tool" is self aware.
The original story has always been personal about jiwon and soomin, also girls frienship like with hee yon and manager kang, which is why the male lead is not much developed. It's a romance but the romance was secondary to jiwon's growth and her new life.
I don't think jiwon trusted her after that but in soomin's mind, it's not her fault that jiwon's can't accept her, it's ji won's fault, jiwons part is to help soomin and jiwon let her be like that for a long time so it's all because jiwon, ji won changes and make soomin miserable.
I see all of this when soomin start talking during the camping trips.
that's how she can afford the new house and lifestyle.
in the early mmh webtoon, I manage to read the webnovel but it's not there anymore.
The webtoon fast forward many things like jihyuk's engagement and his family story. The webtoon also quite short. I remember that 1 episodes of the webtoon is around 2-4 chapters of the original novel so like about 10 chapters in webtoon can be around 20 chapter in webnovel.
on another note, the drama use 2013 as the 10 years into the past, not 2009 like the webtoon so a lot of stuff was adjusted to fit the timeline.
The original webnovel and webtoon use actual event in some of their plot therefore the drama also has to use adapt, as example the "executive gets mad at plane", it referred to actual event back in 2013-2014.
"A cabin crew chief says he was forced to kneel and ask forgiveness by the daughter of Korean Air's chairman, before being ordered off a flight."
here some summary of the changes
https://en.namu.wiki/w/%EB%82%B4%20%EB%82%A8%ED%8E%B8%EA%B3%BC%20%EA%B2%B0%ED%98%BC%ED%95%B4%EC%A4%98(%EC%9B%B9%ED%88%B0)#rfn-4
but I do remember that it's more, like many stuff just wasn't there, I stopped reading the webnovel since the webtoon is faster the translation got cut off.
the drama adds some context on the game when soomin motto is why work hard if you can asked people to do it for you.
She has superiority and victim complex where she is above doing the hard work and she deserve the leeway because she is pitiful and pretty.
She keeps jiwon because jiwon is useful, she is nice , gullible, actually capable so soomin can leech of her and when jiwon tries to break free, the only she can do is to drag jiwon with her.
Soomin in the drama has more nuances and we can see that she has inferiority complex towards jiwon but doesn't want to admit it.
She also has always been successful with just asking people so she thought it's all will work out.
on the other hand, pmy smiles when she is fakely for soo min and genuinely happy with hee yon feels different,
her mannerism changes from ep 1 to 10 is a good way to see her acting ability
the way she speaks to eunho and jihyuk is all different, you can feel her different emotion to different people just in the way she talked.
I am not even her fans to say this,
soo min actress has more reactionary acting where you can see how good she is at executed the unhinged character
on the other hand, pmy smiles when she is fakely for soo min and genuinely happy with hee yon feels different,
her mannerism changes from ep 1 to 10 is a good way to see her acting ability
the way she speaks to eunho and jihyuk is all different, you can fee her different emotion to different people just by the way she talked.
I am not even her fans to say this,
soo min actress has more reactionary acting where you can see how good she is at executed the unhinged character
this is how they changes something from the webtoon related to jihyuk
frankly said, idk why and how jihyuk even died in the first timeline
even if she died at the same time, she can die for natural cause and in different places and not by rage murderer on freak accident,
the way people die changes, death said the same too,
she also can die way more happy and without regret, especially when yiijae can come clean and apologize to her,
it changes everything
In woo character is not the focal point and he did a great job showing that he indeed in love but also stuck in his own predicament. Ji Hyuk can't do more because the main of the story is not that ji won has to fight to ji hyuk but ji hyuk was always there and ji jwon didn't notice him
She wants the attention and stuff but doesn't want to work for it nor knowing her own capability so she always use other people and jiwon is a very gullible person.
She think jiwon deserve it because jiwon doesn't know better and jiwon should be happy that soomin notice her and becomes her friend.
She likes using people to get things she wanted and jiwon is one of her most useful tools.
Remember how she advised jiwon in the camping trip? how she get close to manager kim and how she keeps begging ji won for idea? it because she has been using people to her advantage
aside from people use it to trick other,
other people use it for props like for some picture related to pregnancy or to do some demonstration,
it's not always shady business
if we look to the past, the reason jiwon in such state because they delayed her treatment and she actually died from accident, not from the cancer
they could just not do it. Like in the previous life when ji won didn't set them up.
If you think of it simply, ji wons knows they will end up together, why can't she helps them getting together faster?
Also minhwan is somewhat aware of soomin's trickery but he also don't guard himself. On the other hand, soomin also aware little by little that minhwan isn't all that and she pick him herself.
It's not that jiwon forced them together, she gave them spaces, they even know they are cheating behind jiwon, saying stuff like "we shouldn't do this" so this also their choices.
Also, jiwon was meek and don't know how to stand up for herself in the past while soomin actually know how make people favour her so there is possibility that soomin can be better off with minhwan, not become abused by the system in his family and fight back. The whole premised is about jiwon getting her life back and at the same time, giving this "friend" and "boyfriend" spaces, they took the chances themselves. Like on the past, they could've not cheating with each other.
at the end, he realised that he wants to survive and he fight the bad guy using other people capability, reminding him that the skill you learn along the way stay within you so don't feel like failure when you actually busy living. He goes down on his knees and begs Death to give him a last chance to live his life as Yi-Jae.
All these reincarnations play significant roles in making Yi-Jae understand his sin. He also realizes why he is getting this painful punishment from Death. You said having his mother is cheap , on the other hand, his mother is one affected the most with his death, it's the final test from death, if he can't understand with this then he doesn't even deserve chances.
What he gains throughout the 12 lives is perspective after he died, he thought his story had ended but on the opposite, human's life isn't an individual story, his life is represented in his tomb, his mum's visit, his gf book, how he also had encounter the beginning of the serial killer urge. He never contacted his mother throughout the early life and even if his action meant to make thing easier for his mum, it didn't happen like he wanted, his mum has to report to the police every week for things out of her capability. His gf flower was from her brother and he thought she'll be happy without him yet she is in deep sadness and still cherish their memory.
He didn't start the live with no memory, he start it with realisation that he could wait for death. That's the point of the story, you need to wait for death, not inflicting death to other people and to yourself and this 12 episode shows that yii jae finally gets it after seeing it with his mother's eyes. He feels remorse and he understand the broader perspective that your life wasn't only about you, removing you, even if you think you are worthless doesn't mean the same things about other's people. He assumed people's thought when he really doesn't know all about people.
This is my last reply cause I think you really don't watch the drama. It's fine to criticise but there is a point where the criticism can comes from lack of understanding and become invalid.
it's hinted, he never asked for more cause he desperately wanted to die
it wasn't twisted, just because it doesn't spell it out for you word by word doesn't mean it wasn't there,
mystery must be a bad genre if you have to spell out everything for the viewer to understand,
this is my last reply
they've dated for years and this is why they want to get married, some people think their spouse will help them dealing with in-law because they marry their spouse.
It is common in real life because you don't marry your in-law and many couple either break up or break with their in-law in this kind of scenario.
I mean, I personally know someone who has to choose between his wife or mother because the mother is "always lonely"
nobody really know the mother in-law "extreme loneliness" up until he gets married.
"kang ji won should be miserable beside me so I can perceived better by other people and feel better about myself"
she likes jiwon but in the way of treating jiwon like an accessory.
If we go to the first timeline and the way she talks about her in the high school, it's about how soomin should be the good girls who is "shackled" by her friendship with jiwon,
I agree that soomin does "love" jiwon but not as person but as a tool to get what she wanted and now soomin is confused and furious that her "tool" is self aware.
The original story has always been personal about jiwon and soomin, also girls frienship like with hee yon and manager kang, which is why the male lead is not much developed. It's a romance but the romance was secondary to jiwon's growth and her new life.