ah, I actually like Da Rim! the comments about her were in terms of the role she likely played in the siblings feelings towards her / her and their mom (I originally read your comment as 'they should be focusing on the mom, DR didn't have anything to do with it' and was speaking to that, but maybe that interpretation wasn't what you meant!) -- because she (seemingly) hasn't intervened in the past that's why DR is also getting their pushback
she's played a part in their relationships as well
I might be the only one who empathise with the siblings. Like it’s weird to pity Da-rim because of her disease…
it's not just you!
the mom's past behaviour with CR and MR and her particular approach in this situation is what's caused them to have such strong reactions and honestly I get it. it absolutely sucks for everyone involved but there seemingly hasn't been effort over the years to prevent / address tension so it's not surprising that things have boiled over like this
especially when the mom is demanding such huge asks despite the uncertainty of being able to achieve surgery + isn't making any effort to actively involve the siblings in discussion / collectively develop a plan
hmmm... finding most of the characters in this drama not likable. Definitely, not a loving, supportive family,…
ehhh I don't think that's on the siblings though?
since childhood they've both felt cast aside, neglected, and/or overburdened. as adults who finally have the space to take control of their own lives and make decisions that will set them up to achieve the things they actually /want to do/ (vs feel pressured into doing), why would they not jump at the chance to pursue their own desires after being made to feel like afterthoughts for so long?
Da Rim started losing her vision in middle school and that was already after their father passed so both of them were being tapped to take on roles outsides of just being a kid. the mom was admittedly swamped trying to figure it all out but they - like Da Rim - were still just kids and should have had opportunities to be treated as such and feel cared for instead of constantly seeing their mom pedastal and focus on Da Rim instead of them. if the family isn't supportive it's because they (the siblings) haven't felt supported lol
and in once being laser focused on Da Rim, their mom didn't even attempt to discuss an approach with them or talk to them about the things she wanted them to do -- s he just popped up and started demanding huge asks of them without any preamble
just because Da Rim didn't ask their mom to treat her differently doesn't mean that their mom didn't treat her differently? she clearly did and has for YEARS -- as stated across multiple conversations. sure Da Rim may not have always been in a place to address or push back against their mom's behaviour, but she has also seemingly done nothing to acknowledge it with anybody
it's not surprising that the siblings have felt overlooked and want to branch out and put themselves first in their own lives after being made to feel (whether intentionally or not) unimportant for so long.
their feelings may be blunt as a result of repeatedly dealing with similar situations but I definitely don't think they're unfair
Sung Hyun (WR) just posted an Instagram story and it looks like this has been extended to 128 episodes (the pic was of a script marked 128 and the caption was talking about it being the last one)
the timing of his drama this august is implausible.
if you're referring to Serendipity's Embrace into Love Next Door, SE actually filmed back in 2022 and took like ~a year to get on air after production finished
Who is that? Which character, I don’t see that name on the cast list…though I do need my coffee!
no worries! there's usually a delay in the guest roles being added to the cast listing -- since he didn't appear until ep. 6 it's possible that when you checked it hadn't been updated yet and he just wasn't there
I don't understand how people can say that removing WR from the register isn't a big deal -- the only mother he…
@EMaGr (for some reason I can't reply to your comment directly! but)
the comparison to MR is so interesting as well considering how avoidant / denialist SY is being about the Han family's questions and the possibility of a connection -- she said repeatedly in previous episodes that she understands MR's pain, will forgive the actions made against her because of that understanding, and that MR should always keep hope (because if she - SY - can find her child after decades it's possible for MR to do the same) so why can't she acknowledge WR potentially having a lost family (especially when she is currently getting ready to cancel WR's adoption)? given everything that's going on (and how much she is claiming to 'care for him') you would think she'd jump at the opportunity to potentially reunite WR with people who could love him so that the loss of what he has now would feel less like abandonment and more like a rediscovery
and yes I second everything about SJ! the same way SY has been solely focused on getting SJ back, SJ has constantly refused to address/confront the progression of her life (as SJ instead of SK) in favour of closing her eyes and living as 'the version of herself that should have been' (which is also wacky because it implies that WR - and DR - should never have been adopted?). I can understand the emotions behind it but that doesn't absolve her of the impacts it's having on the people she's claimed to love and her unwillingness to even consider that (and lack of conviction to mitigate that pain after the fact) is ruthless
I agree it's a big deal and I also understand her thinking. It's so hard to find true love and she doesn't want…
idk..., if she didn't want WR's love to end then she wouldn't have been so quick to agree to add SJ to the registry. the only reason it seems to have reached a breaking point for her now is because it's become more apparent how much of an effect their not being together is having on *SJ* -- all those times WR was getting drunk and apologising for making her worry and bolstering himself to reiterate that he'd make their dreams come true all she did was look at him 'sadly' lol
I agree with you. This is a bigger issue or more on the same level as SJ situation. Yes, SJ suffered loneliness…
ah that's so true! when it came to getting SJ on SY's registry not only did her dad talk to her to 'confirm' it was what she wanted over being with WR (to which she essentially said yes), but she and SY had an entire conversation about it where SY agreed to continuing the suit instead of dropping it and that was what WR heard before deciding to give up on their relationship
more and more it seems like all the both of them do is break his heart in order to strengthen their own
We are in different time zones so my reply is late. I am preparing to go out so I will reply the main points,…
(ah, did you interpret this post as directed at you because I replied to one of your earlier comments?)
the implications you shared are interesting but I don't agree with them / think they'd be of issue in action -- as a medical professional SJ is likely familiar with power of attorney documents and could easily fill one out designating SY as the one who should act on her behalf and the same could be done with a will / updating beneficiaries on insurance documents to address her assets. given how strongly she has voiced not wanting to be connected with YJ, both of those things would be clear next steps if she wanted to entrench the decision. in terms of still being connected to YJ or not, there's a difference between cancelling her adoption and being added to SY's registry -- they are two separate actions that just happened to be carried out together given the lawsuit SY filed but SJ could easily have just done the first instead of pursuing both as a way of 'putting things back where they were in order to live a life as if the wrongs never happened'. (she chose to pretend to make it better instead of actually address the relationship with YJ and her dad head on, but that's another conversation lol)
if love is more important than being on the registry then why was SJ so quickly added? why wasn't their love considered important enough for SJ to *not* be added? even in talking about the importance of love, the framing you're using (and that SY herself has also used) is focused solely on SJ -- why isn't/wasn't WR's desire to love and have a family important enough to consider? and why are all the decisions being made revolving specifically (yet again) around the things SJ wants? just because SJ belatedly realised how much of an impact this decision is having on *her*, despite WR's multiple attempts to discuss the situation and the repeat breakdowns he had about being forced into it, why should she (and SY) again take it upon theirselves to dictate his life at their whims without so much as a discussion?
folks can say that WR's not technically being asked to leave but he certainly is getting pushed to a point where he may feel like he needs to do so for himself, and that's on them and their (isolated) decisionmaking.
I don't understand how people can say that removing WR from the register isn't a big deal -- the only mother he currently knows is saying that she wants to disown him! WR was adopted by SY after already going through the traumatic loss of one mother. for the one who has raised for over twenty plus years (and also provided him with family he never had through DR, WC, JS, and AR) to tell him to his face, without any warning, that she no longer wants him to be her son is huge
she can try to spin it as doing it for him and SJ, but if that was the case and she was actually considerate of the relationship they originally had things couldn't have gotten to this point in the first place. SJ and SY decided to focus solely on what SJ wanted - everything else be damned - and weren't willing to discuss the impact it could have on WR or any other potential ways to accomplish similiar or still provide space for their relationship. he was forced to actively give her up for their own wants and if they were open to considering his desires that wouldn't have been the case. if anything, this decision from SY just reaffirms how focused on SJ she is (and likely has been in terms of using/viewing DR and WR as placeholders) since she only came to it after seeing the drawings SJ made and crafted a 'solution' by herself despite the massive impact it would have on WR.
for SY to say that it's just a formality and won't change anything is also nonsense because if that was the case (and that was how they viewed legal paperwork) then the same would have applied to SJ and there wouldn't have been such a massive rush (that SY agreed to despite knowing what it meant) to get SJ on her register. pretending/acting like the paperwork doesn't mean anything now (because/when it's about WR) is two-faced
I feel for WR now that SY intends to dissolve his adoption. But SY has explained that her sole reason for doing…
her sole reason for doing it is seeing how miserable them being legal siblings is making *SJ* feel -- she only came to the decision after (once again) snooping around SJ's room and finding the drawings. it's been clear since SJ forced a breakup on WR how distraught he's been about the situation and the two of them (SY and WR) - not to mention WR and WC - have had repeat conversations about him putting aside his own desires for SY and SJ's wants + WR has also been the one repeatedly consoling them and saying that they shouldn't give up their dreams of SJ being SY's daughter and that he'd give up his own instead. despite the clear push back he had in the beginning and despite the drunk breakdown WR had in front of the entire family, SY and SJ have been set on getting her (SJ) back on the register and neither of them actively considered or were willing to discuss the impact that would have had on WR or them all collectively.
Why would WR not take opportunity to step away when he's been actively struggling? he loves a girl who broke up with him after being unable to consider his feelings and the mother who raised him now wants to disown him -- the amount of changes he's had to face and the decisions (he did not make) that he has had to come to terms with over episodes have been huge. SY can say all she wants that this doesn't change anything but she IS STILL removing him from the register of the only* family he has and has decided to do so without any discussion (with anyone) beforehand. that not only affects his and her relationship but potentially also the one he has with DR. and if the paperwork doesn't mean anything then why were they all gung-ho about immediately having SJ added? it's wacky for them to have done all that (having said the things they did in the process and made the decisions they made along the way) and then turn around and say removing WR would just be a formality -- especially since he has already lost a mother AND again, currently has no other family that he's aware of. even if SJ had stayed tied to YJ at least she still would have had her dad, grandmother, and DY
if SY was actually a wonderful mother to him (instead of treating him as a placeholder) she would have actively considered him in her decisionmaking before things got to this point
You judge that by one preview of a kiss?? I think they will kiss and part ways. You clearly don't know how Kdramas…
having watched the episode I actually do think it was a goodbye (for now)! the moment wasn't exactly happy or unburdened plus at the moment they're still legal siblings so I don't see WR kissing her for keeps without first making an official decision about his adoption.
the fact that he was even at the terminal without telling SJ where he was heading makes me think that he's still in disagreement/disbelief about it all, and knowing how important his (a) mother / family is to him I also don't see him agreeing to being disowned (because that's what it is and that exact interpretation is also why they were all so gung-ho about getting SJ back on SY's register so quickly despite what it meant for the two of them as a couple) without first fiinding out about his own birth secret -- and especially not this quickly two* episodes later
You judge that by one preview of a kiss?? I think they will kiss and part ways. You clearly don't know how Kdramas…
I haven't watched the episode yet but, if that's the case, good for him!
not saying that they should never get back together but so much of WR's storyline has been at the whims of others/for the benefit of others -- I hope he'll have an opportunity to make his own decisions (vs going along with what others have decided), stand firm in what he needs to do for himself, and express how folks' actions have made him feel/what they put him through
incoming rant!the end of 88 was such a load of bull, WHY do these people keep making decisions on behalf of WR…
also, because this is once again a unilateral decision from SY, SJ has no idea about SY's current mindset -- how could SY (despite all the focus she's had on SJ since finding out she's SK lol) not consider that this type of decision could also lead *her* into a state of heightened mental distress?
in addition to the feelings of abandonment WR could have towards SY and feelings of resentment he could develop for SJ, SJ - observing the fallout of SY's decision (especially if WR has a reaction to it or tries to talk her out of it (which WHY would he not)) - could develop her own feelings of guilt towards WR (and SY) for being the reason he loses his adoptive family and then lose her own self-worth again as a result
this idea SY has of the two of them immediately jumping back into things easy peasy, no thoughts is so asinine
she's played a part in their relationships as well
the mom's past behaviour with CR and MR and her particular approach in this situation is what's caused them to have such strong reactions and honestly I get it. it absolutely sucks for everyone involved but there seemingly hasn't been effort over the years to prevent / address tension so it's not surprising that things have boiled over like this
especially when the mom is demanding such huge asks despite the uncertainty of being able to achieve surgery + isn't making any effort to actively involve the siblings in discussion / collectively develop a plan
since childhood they've both felt cast aside, neglected, and/or overburdened. as adults who finally have the space to take control of their own lives and make decisions that will set them up to achieve the things they actually /want to do/ (vs feel pressured into doing), why would they not jump at the chance to pursue their own desires after being made to feel like afterthoughts for so long?
Da Rim started losing her vision in middle school and that was already after their father passed so both of them were being tapped to take on roles outsides of just being a kid. the mom was admittedly swamped trying to figure it all out but they - like Da Rim - were still just kids and should have had opportunities to be treated as such and feel cared for instead of constantly seeing their mom pedastal and focus on Da Rim instead of them. if the family isn't supportive it's because they (the siblings) haven't felt supported lol
and in once being laser focused on Da Rim, their mom didn't even attempt to discuss an approach with them or talk to them about the things she wanted them to do -- s he just popped up and started demanding huge asks of them without any preamble
it's not surprising that the siblings have felt overlooked and want to branch out and put themselves first in their own lives after being made to feel (whether intentionally or not) unimportant for so long.
their feelings may be blunt as a result of repeatedly dealing with similar situations but I definitely don't think they're unfair
the comparison to MR is so interesting as well considering how avoidant / denialist SY is being about the Han family's questions and the possibility of a connection -- she said repeatedly in previous episodes that she understands MR's pain, will forgive the actions made against her because of that understanding, and that MR should always keep hope (because if she - SY - can find her child after decades it's possible for MR to do the same) so why can't she acknowledge WR potentially having a lost family (especially when she is currently getting ready to cancel WR's adoption)? given everything that's going on (and how much she is claiming to 'care for him') you would think she'd jump at the opportunity to potentially reunite WR with people who could love him so that the loss of what he has now would feel less like abandonment and more like a rediscovery
and yes I second everything about SJ! the same way SY has been solely focused on getting SJ back, SJ has constantly refused to address/confront the progression of her life (as SJ instead of SK) in favour of closing her eyes and living as 'the version of herself that should have been' (which is also wacky because it implies that WR - and DR - should never have been adopted?). I can understand the emotions behind it but that doesn't absolve her of the impacts it's having on the people she's claimed to love and her unwillingness to even consider that (and lack of conviction to mitigate that pain after the fact) is ruthless
more and more it seems like all the both of them do is break his heart in order to strengthen their own
the implications you shared are interesting but I don't agree with them / think they'd be of issue in action -- as a medical professional SJ is likely familiar with power of attorney documents and could easily fill one out designating SY as the one who should act on her behalf and the same could be done with a will / updating beneficiaries on insurance documents to address her assets. given how strongly she has voiced not wanting to be connected with YJ, both of those things would be clear next steps if she wanted to entrench the decision. in terms of still being connected to YJ or not, there's a difference between cancelling her adoption and being added to SY's registry -- they are two separate actions that just happened to be carried out together given the lawsuit SY filed but SJ could easily have just done the first instead of pursuing both as a way of 'putting things back where they were in order to live a life as if the wrongs never happened'. (she chose to pretend to make it better instead of actually address the relationship with YJ and her dad head on, but that's another conversation lol)
if love is more important than being on the registry then why was SJ so quickly added? why wasn't their love considered important enough for SJ to *not* be added? even in talking about the importance of love, the framing you're using (and that SY herself has also used) is focused solely on SJ -- why isn't/wasn't WR's desire to love and have a family important enough to consider? and why are all the decisions being made revolving specifically (yet again) around the things SJ wants? just because SJ belatedly realised how much of an impact this decision is having on *her*, despite WR's multiple attempts to discuss the situation and the repeat breakdowns he had about being forced into it, why should she (and SY) again take it upon theirselves to dictate his life at their whims without so much as a discussion?
folks can say that WR's not technically being asked to leave but he certainly is getting pushed to a point where he may feel like he needs to do so for himself, and that's on them and their (isolated) decisionmaking.
she can try to spin it as doing it for him and SJ, but if that was the case and she was actually considerate of the relationship they originally had things couldn't have gotten to this point in the first place. SJ and SY decided to focus solely on what SJ wanted - everything else be damned - and weren't willing to discuss the impact it could have on WR or any other potential ways to accomplish similiar or still provide space for their relationship. he was forced to actively give her up for their own wants and if they were open to considering his desires that wouldn't have been the case. if anything, this decision from SY just reaffirms how focused on SJ she is (and likely has been in terms of using/viewing DR and WR as placeholders) since she only came to it after seeing the drawings SJ made and crafted a 'solution' by herself despite the massive impact it would have on WR.
for SY to say that it's just a formality and won't change anything is also nonsense because if that was the case (and that was how they viewed legal paperwork) then the same would have applied to SJ and there wouldn't have been such a massive rush (that SY agreed to despite knowing what it meant) to get SJ on her register. pretending/acting like the paperwork doesn't mean anything now (because/when it's about WR) is two-faced
Why would WR not take opportunity to step away when he's been actively struggling? he loves a girl who broke up with him after being unable to consider his feelings and the mother who raised him now wants to disown him -- the amount of changes he's had to face and the decisions (he did not make) that he has had to come to terms with over episodes have been huge. SY can say all she wants that this doesn't change anything but she IS STILL removing him from the register of the only* family he has and has decided to do so without any discussion (with anyone) beforehand. that not only affects his and her relationship but potentially also the one he has with DR. and if the paperwork doesn't mean anything then why were they all gung-ho about immediately having SJ added? it's wacky for them to have done all that (having said the things they did in the process and made the decisions they made along the way) and then turn around and say removing WR would just be a formality -- especially since he has already lost a mother AND again, currently has no other family that he's aware of. even if SJ had stayed tied to YJ at least she still would have had her dad, grandmother, and DY
if SY was actually a wonderful mother to him (instead of treating him as a placeholder) she would have actively considered him in her decisionmaking before things got to this point
the fact that he was even at the terminal without telling SJ where he was heading makes me think that he's still in disagreement/disbelief about it all, and knowing how important his (a) mother / family is to him I also don't see him agreeing to being disowned (because that's what it is and that exact interpretation is also why they were all so gung-ho about getting SJ back on SY's register so quickly despite what it meant for the two of them as a couple) without first fiinding out about his own birth secret -- and especially not this quickly two* episodes later
not saying that they should never get back together but so much of WR's storyline has been at the whims of others/for the benefit of others -- I hope he'll have an opportunity to make his own decisions (vs going along with what others have decided), stand firm in what he needs to do for himself, and express how folks' actions have made him feel/what they put him through
in addition to the feelings of abandonment WR could have towards SY and feelings of resentment he could develop for SJ, SJ - observing the fallout of SY's decision (especially if WR has a reaction to it or tries to talk her out of it (which WHY would he not)) - could develop her own feelings of guilt towards WR (and SY) for being the reason he loses his adoptive family and then lose her own self-worth again as a result
this idea SY has of the two of them immediately jumping back into things easy peasy, no thoughts is so asinine
WR is truly a better person than me lol