Nah.......sorry to burst your bubble but she wants to dissolve his adoption. SY was telling his mother that she's…
lol it's wild to me that SY thinks being forced to break up with his girlfriend is hurting WR (which yes it is, but no one cared about that when he wanted to talk it through) but that suddenly saying she no longer wants him to be her son will automatically fix that (as if finding out that the woman who raised him for 20+ years suddenly wants to abandon him isn't just as if not more so heartbreaking!)
the end of 88 was such a load of bull, WHY do these people keep making decisions on behalf of WR that he has not, and in fact *would* not ask y'all to make!
in this particular situation, what right do you have to decide to dissolve his adoption without even discussing the topic with him first (and even then SY isn't the one who should be bringing it up, it's him!)? that reeks so strongly of "SJ is the one that matters most to me, everything I do is for/because of her". if you actually valued them *both* equally then you wouldn't have just blindly followed SJ's desires the entire time and would have made actual efforts to sit everyone down to discuss alternatives and possibilities
these two women have pushed this guy to a point where he wants to take space for himself in order to fully come to terms with it all (after they were the ones demanding that it had to be their particular way and that that way was the only way), and SY's thought process as his mother of 20+ years is to disown him so that he /potentially/ won't move out of the house? BOOOOOOO
how in the world do you think that'll make him feel better??
Because people can't accept the fact that fl chose ml
I doubt that's the actual reason, a lot of folks actually were not fans of how pushy and persistent he was. it's probably the random mystery/crime subplot -- it was poorly done, unnecessary, and lasted way too long lol
Was he the one that said his mom died when he was 5? I can't remember. Maybe he disappeared when he was 5. Lived…
when he first told SJ he was adopted back in episode sixty-something he said that his birth mom died when he was five but I think they realised that timing was wonky and are retconning lol
I'm pretty sure the character bio listed him as 35 (36?) and the Hans have been saying over and over that HW has been missing for 30 years -- if he was adopted at five that means that he would have had to go missing at like 1 (in order to have been found by his 'birth mom' and raised long enough to remember her and also have gone with her to treatments + go to the orphanage after she passed and be there for an extended period (meeting and becoming friendly with DR) + be adopted by SY after her multiple volunteer visits post being in the hospital for two years and then waking up and doing rehab), and even then it would still be difficult for him to be older than both SJ and HS
having him instead go /missing/ at five, get to the orphanage at 9, and then be adopted by SY while in middle school (so like 11?) makes a lot more sense and it seems like that's the path they're going based on the flashbacks and missing posters (they're reinforcing to us that he's around school age instead of a babe or early toddler)
Why am I having an unease feeling about JT? He’s definitely up to something. Who had the same thought that the…
ahhh this is SUCH a good flag! I had forgotten about how his 'birth mom' and SY were being treated together before she (birth mom) passed and he ended up at the orphanage. if JT was checking in on SY after performing that initial surgery, depending on how long WR's birth mom was also there, it would make sense for him as a kid to have been around and potentially spotted by JT!
But what is really the relationship between Seojin and Hwang daeung?? She is his daughter ??
as of right now he's displayed as a family friend who helped her and her mom leave their poor neighbourhood -- she calls him Uncle (Samcheon) and he generally refers to her as Kid
that's definitely an option, but it being brought up and the decision to do so needs to come SOLELY from Woo Ri…
her POV, sure but I personally can't say the same for her actions. yes maybe it's a matter of her finally wanting to be selfish but it's at the expense of the very people she claims to love / want.
and WR wanting to make her happy doesn't automatically mean he should give up his entire family (which is also the only family he's truly known)
if he's (of course) this upset about losing just her imagine the impact losing all of them would have (at this point). it's very possible that he determined losing SJ vs them was an easier pill to swallow (especially since this way she'll still let him be around her)
that's definitely an option, but it being brought up and the decision to do so needs to come SOLELY from Woo Ri…
sure she can want it to be legal but she didn't even know that was a possibility until her father went to her and asked if she wanted WR more than the possibility of becoming her mom's legal daughter again -- she said no and then immediately broke up with him so why should it automatically be on WR to 'fix' the situation? there are so many ways that it could have been worked through and she immediately rejected him /despite/ him trying to talk to her about it multiple times.
and the same way she may want that to be legal, WR probably does too? he has no other parental figures (that he's aware of), giving up the only mother he actually knows is a HUGE deal (especially for someone who has been avoiding him), plus it would also mean giving up his connection to Doo Ri as well and they were raised in the orphanage together
SJ's happiness shouldn't have to come at his expense, that's not a balanced relationship whatsoever. yes he's willing to sacrifice himself but that doesn't mean he should be reduced to pieces -- even if he offered to do so, we don't even know if that would be enough for SJ at this point to 'get over' the fact that SY raised him and the fact that they'd 'share' a sister (DR)
The easiest solution is to cancel WR's adoption. My husband was adopted as a newborn and I asked him what he would…
that's definitely an option, but it being brought up and the decision to do so needs to come SOLELY from Woo Ri without any pressure from others (explicit or implicit, for their benefit vs his own) -- otherwise it has the potential for /him/ to develop his own complexes and insecurities (ie that SY never saw him as her own son, that he was a placeholder till her actual child showed up and now he's being abandoned / they're being swapped out) similar to what SJ has with her own families
Anybody who goes to him asking him to cancel the adoption would be out of line -- especially since he and SJ have not been dating for an extended period and nor were they actively in a place of preparing for marriage. Plus SY has been raising him for over two decades -- not everyone would be able to make that switch even if they expect or know mentally that the actual relationship wouldn't* change (plus the idea of it 'being just a piece of paper' applies SJ as well in that not being on SY's register doesn't mean she's not her daughter and can't continue building that relationship / being removed from YJ's doesn't mean she's no longer her step-daughter and hasn't been repeatedly wronged by her)
If WR were to offer that's one thing, but that would first require the three of them having a shared conversation to figure things out together instead of SY and SJ making unilateral decisions lol
Right. Now she doesn't have live with either family.
she doesn't *have* to live with them, and definitely shouldn't, but she likely doesn't have the money to get her own place at this exact moment (and also has a complex about relying on others/asking for help and probably wouldn't have thought to ask her friend to crash at her place)
I've been skipping a lot on the episodes so maybe I missed the reason why the FL tolerates all the insults and…
Is she though? at the beginning of the series she had to take out that huge loan to pay off her dad's scam debt (which she now owes to Hyun Sung) and used the bulk of her savings to find the family a new place to live (without any contribution from the other siblings) after they sold the house.
There's a reason SJ was looking for a place that cost so little to begin with (which she wouldn't have even found if DR hadn't spotted her at the agency and begged her mom and AR to rent out the solo room) and I doubt the money she earned working at the restaurant is enough to do much more than pay that monthly rent
yeah she's working at the hospital again, but she just got the position back and definitely hasn't been paid yet so it's not like it's currently a big boost to her bank account either
this isnt related at all to the show really, but did anyone else notice the actor of woori has hurt his ankle…
This was on my mind whenever he popped up on screen for the longest time! At first I wasn't sure if it was part of WR's characterisation or not so I went to his Instagram feed to find videos of him walking and, after seeing it carry over outside filming, tried looking up articles to see if there had been anything shared. That didn't show anything either, and I couldn't find other comments noticing it, so I ended up watching his previous daily to see if it was maybe something I missed or had already been a thing prior but he doesn't have a limp in that drama at all so I'm guessing it's a recent development from whenever that one stopped airing
SY should have told the truth right away. She was conflicted in hurting both of her children. She was also scared…
until the situation is revealed as a mess to everyone, other individuals have no way of knowing what should be (have been) out in the open in the first place
the question is what happens now/next -- does everyone share what they know about themselves or not? based on that I could see assigning blame to others but as of right now fault is firmly on the The Moms and SJ's dad (a case could be made for CY but even he chose not to say anything because it's not a secret directly related to him/his to tell and SY explicitly asked him not to so that she could do it)
SY should have told the truth right away. She was conflicted in hurting both of her children. She was also scared…
it's not like Uri has been hiding his adoption as a secret (he's referenced wanting to tell her more about himself more than once; also stated wanting to explain his mom's behaviour multiple times around SJ's birthday) and SJ was also invited to visit the orphanage with the famiy.
It's just that up until this reveal, there was no reason for him to go out of his way to tell her when she had so much herself going on and he has had no way of knowing that he *should* tell her because SJ being his mother's birth daughter is also a secret from him
it doesn't seem fair to try and assign fault to him in this situation
For those that watch the episode live...did WR tell HS the truth? Or was it one of those indirectly telling him…
no he didnt, it was an indirect 'look back and determine for yourself if x,y,z was really a coincidence or if she has actually been plotting on you the entire time' & 'i truly don't want you to be hurt or regret not investigating for yourself further in the future'
You might be right, but I suspect that they will start getting closer in the not too distant future (as doctor/patient…
wait, Kim Ma Ri isn't Hyun Sung's birth mother?? I thought she was but potentially had another child around his age (Woo Ri) that she lost contact with / had to give up and that the absence was part of the underlying strife in her current marriage. Why do you think/say she's his step mother?
Also death said for Seo Ki Joo's ancestor that took the camera to prolong his sons life that all his kin will…
the camera grants wishes and has the ability to sustain life / bring the dead back to life -- that's why SKJ's ancestor stole it in the first place (to save his son) and why Bom was the only one in her family to survive the car crash (SKJ's uncle gave it to her to hold on to and that's how her connection with the camera was created). It's ability to grant wishes is also why so many dead make the long trek to studio and enter as visitors -- they are returning to the camera and through it are able to resolve lingering items and see their loved ones a final time
Bom already had a connection with the camera from when she was younger and since they started dating SKJ had prayed about wanting (wished) to live so that the two could be together. this desire (them being together) culminated in him saving her (while as a ghost /without/ the ability to interact with the living world) out of pure desperation and grabbing on to her hand so that she wouldn't have plummeted to death after being dropped off the side of the building. according to the grim reaper (and flashbacks during that convo in EP 15 lol) SKJ being able to save her was the fulfillment of his prayer so once SKJ made it through his birthday (ie his wish to live was granted) the curse was passed on to Bom (I'm assuming because she was already a living person who could see ghosts and was already connected to the camera). as long as the camera is not returned to the netherworld, there has to be a photographer. since the photographer is no longer SKJ it's now Bom and unless they find another solution she's now doomed to die at 35 (she's ~3 years younger than him)
no i think, FL having some connection with ML in the pst, she said in the past, some guy jst like you saved his…
the FL saying 'you remind me of the person who saved my life' is a line she uses on all her cons to build the my hero / Damsel -- Knight in shining armour connection. could it be based on something real, sure! but we don't officially know that yet and that definitely wasn't her first time using it on a mark (as we saw in the flashbacks to her other marriages)
the end of 88 was such a load of bull, WHY do these people keep making decisions on behalf of WR that he has not, and in fact *would* not ask y'all to make!
in this particular situation, what right do you have to decide to dissolve his adoption without even discussing the topic with him first (and even then SY isn't the one who should be bringing it up, it's him!)? that reeks so strongly of "SJ is the one that matters most to me, everything I do is for/because of her". if you actually valued them *both* equally then you wouldn't have just blindly followed SJ's desires the entire time and would have made actual efforts to sit everyone down to discuss alternatives and possibilities
these two women have pushed this guy to a point where he wants to take space for himself in order to fully come to terms with it all (after they were the ones demanding that it had to be their particular way and that that way was the only way), and SY's thought process as his mother of 20+ years is to disown him so that he /potentially/ won't move out of the house? BOOOOOOO
how in the world do you think that'll make him feel better??
I'm pretty sure the character bio listed him as 35 (36?) and the Hans have been saying over and over that HW has been missing for 30 years -- if he was adopted at five that means that he would have had to go missing at like 1 (in order to have been found by his 'birth mom' and raised long enough to remember her and also have gone with her to treatments + go to the orphanage after she passed and be there for an extended period (meeting and becoming friendly with DR) + be adopted by SY after her multiple volunteer visits post being in the hospital for two years and then waking up and doing rehab), and even then it would still be difficult for him to be older than both SJ and HS
having him instead go /missing/ at five, get to the orphanage at 9, and then be adopted by SY while in middle school (so like 11?) makes a lot more sense and it seems like that's the path they're going based on the flashbacks and missing posters (they're reinforcing to us that he's around school age instead of a babe or early toddler)
and WR wanting to make her happy doesn't automatically mean he should give up his entire family (which is also the only family he's truly known)
if he's (of course) this upset about losing just her imagine the impact losing all of them would have (at this point). it's very possible that he determined losing SJ vs them was an easier pill to swallow (especially since this way she'll still let him be around her)
and the same way she may want that to be legal, WR probably does too? he has no other parental figures (that he's aware of), giving up the only mother he actually knows is a HUGE deal (especially for someone who has been avoiding him), plus it would also mean giving up his connection to Doo Ri as well and they were raised in the orphanage together
SJ's happiness shouldn't have to come at his expense, that's not a balanced relationship whatsoever. yes he's willing to sacrifice himself but that doesn't mean he should be reduced to pieces -- even if he offered to do so, we don't even know if that would be enough for SJ at this point to 'get over' the fact that SY raised him and the fact that they'd 'share' a sister (DR)
Anybody who goes to him asking him to cancel the adoption would be out of line -- especially since he and SJ have not been dating for an extended period and nor were they actively in a place of preparing for marriage. Plus SY has been raising him for over two decades -- not everyone would be able to make that switch even if they expect or know mentally that the actual relationship wouldn't* change (plus the idea of it 'being just a piece of paper' applies SJ as well in that not being on SY's register doesn't mean she's not her daughter and can't continue building that relationship / being removed from YJ's doesn't mean she's no longer her step-daughter and hasn't been repeatedly wronged by her)
If WR were to offer that's one thing, but that would first require the three of them having a shared conversation to figure things out together instead of SY and SJ making unilateral decisions lol
There's a reason SJ was looking for a place that cost so little to begin with (which she wouldn't have even found if DR hadn't spotted her at the agency and begged her mom and AR to rent out the solo room) and I doubt the money she earned working at the restaurant is enough to do much more than pay that monthly rent
yeah she's working at the hospital again, but she just got the position back and definitely hasn't been paid yet so it's not like it's currently a big boost to her bank account either
the question is what happens now/next -- does everyone share what they know about themselves or not? based on that I could see assigning blame to others but as of right now fault is firmly on the The Moms and SJ's dad (a case could be made for CY but even he chose not to say anything because it's not a secret directly related to him/his to tell and SY explicitly asked him not to so that she could do it)
It's just that up until this reveal, there was no reason for him to go out of his way to tell her when she had so much herself going on and he has had no way of knowing that he *should* tell her because SJ being his mother's birth daughter is also a secret from him
it doesn't seem fair to try and assign fault to him in this situation
Bom already had a connection with the camera from when she was younger and since they started dating SKJ had prayed about wanting (wished) to live so that the two could be together. this desire (them being together) culminated in him saving her (while as a ghost /without/ the ability to interact with the living world) out of pure desperation and grabbing on to her hand so that she wouldn't have plummeted to death after being dropped off the side of the building. according to the grim reaper (and flashbacks during that convo in EP 15 lol) SKJ being able to save her was the fulfillment of his prayer so once SKJ made it through his birthday (ie his wish to live was granted) the curse was passed on to Bom (I'm assuming because she was already a living person who could see ghosts and was already connected to the camera). as long as the camera is not returned to the netherworld, there has to be a photographer. since the photographer is no longer SKJ it's now Bom and unless they find another solution she's now doomed to die at 35 (she's ~3 years younger than him)